mushrat Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 A friend of mine is growing this "heritage" tobacco and has offered a few gallon zip lock bags of it to me. I don;t have the time to make it into shisha myself, but some of you others may have the time. I'd prefer to give it to someone who has already sucessfully made their own shihsa so it doesn't get wasted in some trial and error attempt. I am willing to send a gallon bag each to two people once i get it, which may not be for a week or 3. All I ask in return is a small sample or product back when you are done. PM me.http://www.bouncingbearbotanicals.com/sacr..._id=1&ref=4http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotiana_rustica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanij Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 I was just wondering, if I didnt wash this, would it kill me? XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted March 7, 2008 Author Share Posted March 7, 2008 probably not, but it would probably give you a buzz from hell. I think my friednhas already washed the leaves for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 I would love it, Native tobacco is traditionally used for purifying rituals. Once in a while I can get a plug, I love it. Too bad I don't have any experience in making my own shisha, I would love to try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanij Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 hmm i might have some.. dunno if i can send samples though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyt Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 "it contains up to twenty times more nicotine than common North American varieties such as N. tabacum.That's hella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeshua_cxc Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Looks like you can buy seed packs. I may have to look into just growing this stuff on my own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninjalex Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 QUOTE (guyt @ Mar 7 2008, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>"it contains up to twenty times more nicotine than common North American varieties such as N. tabacum.That's hella.No joke.Why hasn't anyone made shisha with this yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 I'd love to have some, I have a pretty rough idea of how I want to make my shisha blend. If not it's all good, I can pick up some tombeik and work with it once I get the dough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathuv Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 QUOTE (Ninjalex @ Mar 8 2008, 06:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (guyt @ Mar 7 2008, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>"it contains up to twenty times more nicotine than common North American varieties such as N. tabacum.That's hella.No joke.Why hasn't anyone made shisha with this yet? "Both species are thought to be cultivars. N. rustica (Wild Tobacco) contains about 10 times the nicotine of N. tabacum, and should be considered one of the most important hallucinogenic entheogens" maybe thats why? :S i dont think hallucinogenic shisha is a good idea... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 that's why you wash it and dont burn it directly, lolwash it several times. the nicotine level will get lower with each wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 Mathuv, thats a partially misconception...yes, it is an ethnobotanical of sorts, but not for an entire "trip" or ceremony. It is used at the beginning to purify the body, mind, and soul. They generally carry on with something else, such as Ayahuasca. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted March 8, 2008 Author Share Posted March 8, 2008 QUOTE (Ninjalex @ Mar 8 2008, 12:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (guyt @ Mar 7 2008, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>"it contains up to twenty times more nicotine than common North American varieties such as N. tabacum.That's hella.No joke.Why hasn't anyone made shisha with this yet?Probably because the stuff isn't really mass produced anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted April 22, 2008 Author Share Posted April 22, 2008 since this stuff had been mentioned in another thread I thought I'd bump this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 that stuff is nutz...got a plug of it from a Native American I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erufiku Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I wonder what Eric of Tangiers could do with this stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manic007 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Are you actually giving away GALLON size bags? As in one of your gallons is equal to 3.7 litres? How much is that weight wise? I know Mush its off thread (again, yeah), its not like I've ever made shisha. But I'm interested! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 QUOTE (manic007 @ Apr 22 2008, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Are you actually giving away GALLON size bags? As in one of your gallons is equal to 3.7 litres? How much is that weight wise? I know Mush its off thread (again, yeah), its not like I've ever made shisha. But I'm interested!um..singular..I have one bundle of the stuff I will never use....though i could probably get more from the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I know how to make it...I could make some for you or drop you a pm on how to do it...if you want me to make it for ya, gonna have to wait about a month when I have some income in so I can buy the supplies and be able to ship it back to ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 As I've said before, I'm pretty confident that I could make shisha with this stuff. Boil it down and wash it a few times, dry it, add glycerin and assorted flavor essences or fruit pastes, add molasses or honey and mix to the consistency you want. Smoke. Test. Revamp. Test again. I'd also like to see what happens when you boil the leaves in a fruit juice of some type, grape, apple, pineapple, for example. Then add the essences and flavorings. I'll get my own and test it if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathuv Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 QUOTE (r1v3th3ad @ Mar 8 2008, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Mathuv, thats a partially misconception...yes, it is an ethnobotanical of sorts, but not for an entire "trip" or ceremony. It is used at the beginning to purify the body, mind, and soul. They generally carry on with something else, such as Ayahuasca.CHE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy1966 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Man I wish I knew how to make shisha because I would love to try some of this tobacco. It looks like it would be a great tobacco for Shisha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 QUOTE (mathuv @ Apr 23 2008, 07:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (r1v3th3ad @ Mar 8 2008, 07:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Mathuv, thats a partially misconception... yes, it is an ethnobotanical of sorts, but not for an entire "trip" or ceremony. It is used at the beginning to purify the body, mind, and soul. They generally carry on with something else, such as Ayahuasca. CHE? QUOTE (mathuv @ Mar 8 2008, 06:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Ninjalex @ Mar 8 2008, 06:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (guyt @ Mar 7 2008, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>"it contains up to twenty times more nicotine than common North American varieties such as N. tabacum.That's hella.No joke.Why hasn't anyone made shisha with this yet? "Both species are thought to be cultivars. N. rustica (Wild Tobacco) contains about 10 times the nicotine of N. tabacum, and should be considered one of the most important hallucinogenic entheogens" maybe thats why? :S i dont think hallucinogenic shisha is a good idea...that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookah Junkie Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 Well it took me forever to find a forum that had info posted on nicotina rustica but FINALLY i found this one. GOOD NEWS! I am making shisha using it and have over 20 plants growing outside my house currently. Ive ordered glycerin and expect it tomorrow morning. Im planning on taking pictures of everything and maybe even a video for the fist reaction to actually smoking it. Here goes nothing, BJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane Posted July 29, 2010 Share Posted July 29, 2010 we had one member try it....didn't turn out too well for him... hope your endeavors are more successful!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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