Does Length Affect Anything

[YooHoo JiMbOb III]

hello all, i have been wondering if the length of the hookah would affect anything like would a mya QT hit any different then a hookah like the mya collosus


thanks all for the help ahead of time

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the only thing is that your smoke will be slightly warmer than a taller hookah. Draw begins to show differences upwards of 30"

[YooHoo JiMbOb III]

the only thing is that your smoke will be slightly warmer than a taller hookah. Draw begins to show differences upwards of 30"

how does 30 inches and up differ??

[mushrat]

the only thing is that your smoke will be slightly warmer than a taller hookah. Draw begins to show differences upwards of 30"

how does 30 inches and up differ??

Well, i kinda explain it like this, the big hookahs hit like V-8 engines, longer slower pulls, the smaller ones are like souped up nissans, higher pitch, faster pulls. They'll both get you where you are going....

That make any sense?

[TheAlmightyClaw]

wow, I never have experience both small and large (I just have a good large) well, but that is sort of how I picture it from hearing about it on the forums.

[waterboi]

the only thing is that your smoke will be slightly warmer than a taller hookah. Draw begins to show differences upwards of 30"

how does 30 inches and up differ??

Well, i kinda explain it like this, the big hookahs hit like V-8 engines, longer slower pulls, the smaller ones are like souped up nissans, higher pitch, faster pulls. They'll both get you where you are going....

That make any sense?

Good one. Never heard it explained like that. Makes perfect sense though.

[Stealth]

the only thing is that your smoke will be slightly warmer than a taller hookah. Draw begins to show differences upwards of 30"

how does 30 inches and up differ??

Well, i kinda explain it like this, the big hookahs hit like V-8 engines, longer slower pulls, the smaller ones are like souped up nissans, higher pitch, faster pulls. They'll both get you where you are going....

That make any sense?

Good one. Never heard it explained like that. Makes perfect sense though.

What? That totally doesnt explain it. As long as the downstem is not the smallest passage in the hookah makeing it 10 or 20 inches longer wont make the pull harder.

[nofrendo]

wow, I never have experience both small and large (I just have a good large) well, but that is sort of how I picture it from hearing about it on the forums.

Me neither man... (actually I have never experienced small OR large, but I do have a large one as well)

[Dekon]

the only thing is that your smoke will be slightly warmer than a taller hookah. Draw begins to show differences upwards of 30"

how does 30 inches and up differ??

Well, i kinda explain it like this, the big hookahs hit like V-8 engines, longer slower pulls, the smaller ones are like souped up nissans, higher pitch, faster pulls. They'll both get you where you are going....

That make any sense?

I'm pretty sure it's "supped up" not "Souped up" . I never smoked out of a large hookah only a medium sized one about 20 inches or so, also smoke almost daily on my QT.

[mathuv]

what i cant understand is that i get way more smoke at a hookah bar than at home with my 12 inch shisha. does the amount of shisha make a difference (stupid question) along with the size?

[Zildjian]

smoke is directly related to the amount of heat applied to the shisha. Get the right amount of heat you get loads of smoke with no harshness. Too little heat no smoke. Too much heat **gag cough cough gag**

[mathuv]

smoke is directly related to the amount of heat applied to the shisha. Get the right amount of heat you get loads of smoke with no harshness. Too little heat no smoke. Too much heat **gag cough cough gag**

cool. ill try learn how they do it at the hookah bar then! the only thing that puts me off is that at the bar it lasts 2 people over 2 hours.

[Zildjian]

that can be the type of shisha they use and the bowl they use. Maybe try a bigger bowl? what type of shisha do you use? I know starbuzz and tangiers are known to last hours.

[mushrat]

the only thing is that your smoke will be slightly warmer than a taller hookah. Draw begins to show differences upwards of 30"

how does 30 inches and up differ??

Well, i kinda explain it like this, the big hookahs hit like V-8 engines, longer slower pulls, the smaller ones are like souped up nissans, higher pitch, faster pulls. They'll both get you where you are going....

That make any sense?

Good one. Never heard it explained like that. Makes perfect sense though.

What? That totally doesnt explain it. As long as the downstem is not the smallest passage in the hookah makeing it 10 or 20 inches longer wont make the pull harder.

sure it will..longer pipe means the air has to travel through the restricted space farther, thus it takes more suction. Also larger hookahs tend to have more water and larger vases, so you have to pull a little harder against the pressure. Atleast that's my experience with my 34" vs say my QT.

[guyt]

Its not the size, its how you use it

[Stealth]

sure it will..longer pipe means the air has to travel through the restricted space farther, thus it takes more suction. Also larger hookahs tend to have more water and larger vases, so you have to pull a little harder against the pressure. Atleast that's my experience with my 34" vs say my QT.

Well, it is indeed the restricted spaces that are affecting your pull. I dont know about yours but none of my hookahs are even close to being a point of restriction, so the pull is not affected.

You are right about the base, with bigger hookahs people tend to put the stem deeper in the water but that is their own error. With bigger vases you certainly have the "option" of more pull, but if you set it up with the same water level you will not.

Also I was talking about that crazy car metaphor. Totally didn't make sense.

[mushrat]

sure it will..longer pipe means the air has to travel through the restricted space farther, thus it takes more suction. Also larger hookahs tend to have more water and larger vases, so you have to pull a little harder against the pressure. Atleast that's my experience with my 34" vs say my QT.

Well, it is indeed the restricted spaces that are affecting your pull. I dont know about yours but none of my hookahs are even close to being a point of restriction, so the pull is not affected.

You are right about the base, with bigger hookahs people tend to put the stem deeper in the water but that is their own error. With bigger vases you certainly have the "option" of more pull, but if you set it up with the same water level you will not.

Also I was talking about that crazy car metaphor. Totally didn't make sense.

So what sizes hookah do you normally smoke out of?

The restriction i was speaking of is the down pipe. The longer the pipe, the longer the pull. My tall one pulls fine, but I find it's a LONGER pull than a with a short hookah. Even with my water levels at an inch up the pipe as it should be.

Sorry you didn't go for the car comparison, best I can do.

[Stealth]

sure it will..longer pipe means the air has to travel through the restricted space farther, thus it takes more suction. Also larger hookahs tend to have more water and larger vases, so you have to pull a little harder against the pressure. Atleast that's my experience with my 34" vs say my QT.

Well, it is indeed the restricted spaces that are affecting your pull. I dont know about yours but none of my hookahs are even close to being a point of restriction, so the pull is not affected.

You are right about the base, with bigger hookahs people tend to put the stem deeper in the water but that is their own error. With bigger vases you certainly have the "option" of more pull, but if you set it up with the same water level you will not.

Also I was talking about that crazy car metaphor. Totally didn't make sense.

So what sizes hookah do you normally smoke out of?

The restriction i was speaking of is the down pipe. The longer the pipe, the longer the pull. My tall one pulls fine, but I find it's a LONGER pull than a with a short hookah. Even with my water levels at an inch up the pipe as it should be.

Sorry you didn't go for the car comparison, best I can do.

Well, I guess your right about the "longer" pull, but thats not something that you can notice from smoking. Like, if you were to get 2 mystery hoses from behind a curtain you wouldent say, "wow, this second hookah has a longer pull," as with the exception of the first hit there will be smoke lingering throughout the hookah (unless you mean a harder pull, which brings us back to what i said earlier, and in that case the hookah should have been designed with a wider down pipe). What that translates to as you said before is a cooler smoke, and i dont think anyone can say thats a bad thing.

As for the metaphore i guess to make it even more simple you could have said that a small hookah is like a car engine, and a large hookah is like a more powerful car engine, but I dont think that does anyone anygood. Perhaps a souped up car engine could be more likened to a small hookah with ice in it, which gives it performance like a stock V8. But then again you can always soup up V8's as well.

[sguittap]

to my knowledge..no. in hookah physics, the longer the shafter smoother the smoke. the smoke has more time to cool down before it hits teh water. keep in mind dont get nuts over the length and make it like freakin 5 feet long but witin reason.

[ZenSilk]

I don't know if anyone has noticed.....
But in hookahs, when the smoke is not in a wide open air-filled space, it does not dissipate.

For example, after you take a hit, look down your Nammor mouthpiece. What's there? Smoke. It's just sitting there, un-moving, waiting for you to take it into your lungs.

This is the same all-throughout the hookah. The smoke sits in the exact same place where you left it after you stopped inhaling.

The smoke doesn't really cool down that much through a 30" or above hookah as much as you would think. You pull at the smoke at relatively the same speed with any sized hookah.

So, basically, the smoke doesn't cool on it's way down the stem too much. It cools the most whilst it sits inside the stem and base and your hose. So if you have a larger hookah, more smoke has a longer time to sit inside the longer stem, away from the coals, cooling to the temperature of the metal, which is usually less than the temperature of the room. When you put ice in the base, the smoke is cooled to a much greater extent. The heated smoke is pulled through the water, causing the water to shake and the molecules to move faster, heating the water and melting the ice cubes.
BUT...
When you finish your pull, a great amount of smoke that you didn't inhale sits in the vase above the water, being cooled by the vapors of the melting ice. So therefore, the smoke that was sitting in the base is the coolest you will get.

[mushrat]

I don't know if anyone has noticed.....
But in hookahs, when the smoke is not in a wide open air-filled space, it does not dissipate.

For example, after you take a hit, look down your Nammor mouthpiece. What's there? Smoke. It's just sitting there, un-moving, waiting for you to take it into your lungs.

This is the same all-throughout the hookah. The smoke sits in the exact same place where you left it after you stopped inhaling.

The smoke doesn't really cool down that much through a 30" or above hookah as much as you would think. You pull at the smoke at relatively the same speed with any sized hookah.

So, basically, the smoke doesn't cool on it's way down the stem too much. It cools the most whilst it sits inside the stem and base and your hose. So if you have a larger hookah, more smoke has a longer time to sit inside the longer stem, away from the coals, cooling to the temperature of the metal, which is usually less than the temperature of the room. When you put ice in the base, the smoke is cooled to a much greater extent. The heated smoke is pulled through the water, causing the water to shake and the molecules to move faster, heating the water and melting the ice cubes.
BUT...
When you finish your pull, a great amount of smoke that you didn't inhale sits in the vase above the water, being cooled by the vapors of the melting ice. So therefore, the smoke that was sitting in the base is the coolest you will get.

Good points all around.

[ZenSilk]

Thanks man.

That's just what i seem to have observed.

[ghostofdavid]

When I first joined the forum, I kept reading time and time again that 27" was the optium smoking size. I can't remembe who said it or why, but I def. remember reading it.

That being said, I get a fine smoke out of my old school QT. It is not warm (subjective) but it is noticibly warmer than with my taller hookahs.

I also heard that smaller hookahs allow more room for Carbon/Sulfur. I really hate quoting this stuff without sources or knowledge behind the whys so I will stop.

[shisha fan]

i have hookahs in all possible sizes and from 24 inches and up you wont really notice a difference in cooling. larger hookahs (think 36 inches and up) smoke fine as well as long as they are not leaking air. a diffuser and ice cubes in the base help too, but you`ll need a few trays of ice cubes if you don`t have one of those fridges with an ice cube machine.