QUOTE (ZWAN @ Apr 17 2009, 09:41 AM) At the HB in Calgary they have a somewhat decent pricing system First bowl $13 and a reload for $10.95 they also charge an extra couple of dollars for premium flavors http://cafemed.ca/menu.html check out there menu, some good ideas on there I didn't read through this whole thread, so I apologize if there's repetition here, but there's other factors to take into account. First of all, the prices here are CDN, so equate it to roughly $10 USD per bowl... but looking at this place in particular (and other Calgary places), keeping in mind that I haven't been there in about a year though, they use *tiny* Egyptian bowls (~5-8g), and give you two coals total per bowl. Most modern bowls use almost 2-3 times as much tobacco, and a phunnel would use significantly more than that. Also, they use cheap tobacco. There's the service aspect to be taken into account as well... At this and other local places they light one coal and put it on the bowl for you, and leave another in the tray (quicklights only)... and sometimes, not always, they'll come around and light the second one for you. But otherwise, you're on your own. So for that $10 price point, there's little in the way of hands-on service (meaning much less labor cost), there is no coal management that they do, no natural coals, etc. I would much rather pay $20 for a decent sized bowl with natural coals that are being replaced as needed by the people serving me. As for stepping it up to a more expensive brand, I wouldn't mind paying an extra $2 to $3 for a "premium" option. Keep in mind this is a selling point as well, if there's someone who doesn't necessarily know the brands but sees "premium" written there with a very marginal extra cost, they'll likely order it just for the sake of it.