Virginia Tech School Shooting

[ShishaFred]

THe point I made was not about how hard it was to actually aim at a target and hit where you want. I personally have never killed someone , and I doubt anyone on this board has too. Do you think it's easy to end someone's life ? You're putting the responsability on a RA ( which is a senior student responsible of security to my understanding ) to stop school shootings by killing the shooters. Even if you can shoot targets all day long , you might not be able to kill a human being , no matter what he did.

And what's going to happen to the hero who shot him down ? I don't think he'll be feeling very fine after killing someone. He's gonna be the one needing psychyatric help.

I live in Montreal , and to my knowledge there were 2 shootings of that type. The one earlier this year , at Dawson ,that had 1 victim ( 2 with the shooter) and another one 18 years ago where the killer , who had a hard youth ( no , i'm not defending him) shot down 14 women.

There is one thing we can learn from this . you guys can decide to get more weapons to kill them , but one day a killer might just show up with a bullet-proof vest and an even bigger gun. I don't expect you guys to change your minds , because you were all raised with a different ideology then me , and that's okay. I just want to make a different point in this thread.
All those killers needed some psychological help. The VT one had been deemed dangerous to himself and others , yet it looks like he didn't receive the kind of attention or help he needed. You can't just judge them to be freaks or flukes or maniacs , because that would just be too easy.
Putting them all into the same fucked-up brain category dehumanizes them. Something pushes them to make these extreme acts . Some are bullied at school or rejected , while others have a difficulty with human relations. In my opinion , having more people evaluate the mental health or the kids would prove helpful. Just take 1% of that budget on weapons and put it into help for young children so they grow up confident about themselves , if their parents can't give them that kind of support.

That's pretty much the end of my socialist rant . If you don't agree with it, I understand so save yourself some time and don't feel the need to counter my arguments.

Fred

[Lakemonster]

And what's going to happen to the hero who shot him down ? I don't think he'll be feeling very fine after killing someone. He's gonna be the one needing psychyatric help.

But as it stands now..... 32 families and friends of same number of victims arent feeling very fine and may face mental health issues.

Sometimes doing the right thing hurts.

[Scarecrow]

Rather have 1 guy feelling bad he saved lives then a few dozen feelling bad they got to put there familly into the ground.
Is it hard killing someone? Ya it is when you plan it out, but when you're trying to keep alive, you'd be suprised what you can do.

All the social programs in the world wont get everyone, epsecially not in countries with immigration. We can't fix someone who got screwed up growing up in some dump country and is here now.

Its perfectly clear that people who want to do these things will keep coming because the media eats them up like candy and makes them into super heroes for those who feel bad.

The only reason Dawson shooting here in Canada wasnt as bad as the last shooting is because cops dint wait outside, they immediatly went after the nutcase.

[ASUSEAN1]

shishafred i can honestly say i would be proud of myself if I shot someone like the VT killer. I wouldn't feel any remorse, any regrets, etc., etc.

also guns don't kill people, people kill people. obviously guns are not the problem..

[Scheetz]

I do understand where you are coming from shishafred. But in this case, I am pretty sure if you stopped the shooter after 4 or 5 deaths VT, its alumni, students and parents would do pretty much anything to help you out. If I had a son or daughter in the building and someone stopped him I would do anything to keep that kid in the right state of mind. Yes, you will have mental relapses about what occurred. You will probably need some help, but in this case I think anyone who is mentally strong enough to carry CCW will overcome what they had to do. This was no home invasion shooting like most people go through when they kill someone defending themselves.

[EvansLight]

Ive already heard one news peice just mentioning he played violent video games. XD im honestly, as sad as i am about these events, am bloody tired of hearing it blamed on video games, or TV, and not on the parents, friends, and teachers who should have seen problems developing. Why cant people simply take the blame instead of trying to find another scapegoat.