For The Money, Smileys Is The Best Hands Down!

[ASUSEAN1]

i never said to purchase the entire line, but dont jump to conclusions, jus becuase one flavor sucks doesnt mean the rest of them are going to. for all you know horchata, peach, or the other flavor will be one of your favorite smokes..

[Hookah Joe]

The 15 dollar hookah was def. worth the 15 dollars, you get what you pay for. I have seen 40 dollar hookahs that smoke worse than the 15 dollar hookah. Personally I think the thing smokes like a champ.

Pina Colada isn't a great flavor no matter what brand you are smoking. You should def. try the horchata and peach before you decide to say this brand sucks. And if you still don't like it then put it in the review section.

Personally i think AA is horrible and al waha only has one good flavor. Those two brands don't even stand up to smileys shisha

I never said that it wasnt worth it, i said it was only worth the $15 it was valued, its far from a perfect hookah, actually its a very cheap hookah but for the price it does what its supposed to do but i saw way to many people saying it is an amazing hookah when it is not.

So now everyone is justifying by saying its because of the flavor? Well if smiley wants to sell me his product why would he sample me his "mediocre" flavor? I have had some great pina colladas from others brands i have no idea what your talking about. I even have a few jars on order from other "raved" flavors that i will put to rest once i receive it.

And for the record, your entitled to your opinion about AA and AW, some will disagree some will agree, i personally think both companies have a many flavors that standout from other brands, but i will never say one brand is the best all around because it certainly isnt true with any brand.

Sorry, I had to make a little input. In your post before this, You say everyone is entitled to their OWN opinion. Yet, the bold is a contradiction to that statement. You're basically putting opinion vs. Opinion, which is like debating over religion or politics- No one proves their point, and everyone gets angry. I think you believe everyone is arguing with your opinion. Atleast, that's the mistake you seem to be making. If you had a problem with a flavor, wouldn't it be smarter to contact Smiley Via PM? Let's say you have a product out there, hell, let's even say it's shisha. You have been in the business awhile, and 98% of your customer feedback on the top forum is positive. Well, That means you have little room for improvement. Someone comes onto this forum ( A new person, who hasn't been here long at all, but you respect their opinion nonetheless). And they completely bad mouth your product. Well, you would want to help and try to satisfy them correct?

Imagine your wife bakes a cake, and the neighbor buys it. Now, there is a problem, and this neighbor doesn't like the cake, despite others who do. Now, the neighbor comes over and calmly explains what he didn't like. You thank him, and offer to make it up to him. But when your neighbor rushes over and starts with " Your wife can't bake for shit, it sucks, I never want it again...!" You would probally defend your wife correct? You can see why Smiley responded in that manner. I think it would have been better to post it in the review section, and ask for help in this part of the forum. Wearing a redshirt and jumping into a ring full of bulls with a paintball gun is a bad idea.

Sorry for the rant, just feel that a public insult wasn't neccesary. A nice PM could have avoided all the problems. Take me for instance, I have a jar of peach with NO flavor. Now, Smiley even OFFERED ways to help fix your dilemma, and the attitude persisted. Now that I have it in my friends and all stirred up, I will try it again.

[ASUSEAN1]

The 15 dollar hookah was def. worth the 15 dollars, you get what you pay for. I have seen 40 dollar hookahs that smoke worse than the 15 dollar hookah. Personally I think the thing smokes like a champ.

Pina Colada isn't a great flavor no matter what brand you are smoking. You should def. try the horchata and peach before you decide to say this brand sucks. And if you still don't like it then put it in the review section.

Personally i think AA is horrible and al waha only has one good flavor. Those two brands don't even stand up to smileys shisha

I never said that it wasnt worth it, i said it was only worth the $15 it was valued, its far from a perfect hookah, actually its a very cheap hookah but for the price it does what its supposed to do but i saw way to many people saying it is an amazing hookah when it is not.

So now everyone is justifying by saying its because of the flavor? Well if smiley wants to sell me his product why would he sample me his "mediocre" flavor? I have had some great pina colladas from others brands i have no idea what your talking about. I even have a few jars on order from other "raved" flavors that i will put to rest once i receive it.

And for the record, your entitled to your opinion about AA and AW, some will disagree some will agree, i personally think both companies have a many flavors that standout from other brands, but i will never say one brand is the best all around because it certainly isnt true with any brand.

Sorry, I had to make a little input. In your post before this, You say everyone is entitled to their OWN opinion. Yet, the bold is a contradiction to that statement. You're basically putting opinion vs. Opinion, which is like debating over religion or politics- No one proves their point, and everyone gets angry. I think you believe everyone is arguing with your opinion. Atleast, that's the mistake you seem to be making. If you had a problem with a flavor, wouldn't it be smarter to contact Smiley Via PM? Let's say you have a product out there, hell, let's even say it's shisha. You have been in the business awhile, and 98% of your customer feedback on the top forum is positive. Well, That means you have little room for improvement. Someone comes onto this forum ( A new person, who hasn't been here long at all, but you respect their opinion nonetheless). And they completely bad mouth your product. Well, you would want to help and try to satisfy them correct?

Imagine your wife bakes a cake, and the neighbor buys it. Now, there is a problem, and this neighbor doesn't like the cake, despite others who do. Now, the neighbor comes over and calmly explains what he didn't like. You thank him, and offer to make it up to him. But when your neighbor rushes over and starts with " Your wife can't bake for shit, it sucks, I never want it again...!" You would probally defend your wife correct? You can see why Smiley responded in that manner. I think it would have been better to post it in the review section, and ask for help in this part of the forum. Wearing a redshirt and jumping into a ring full of bulls with a paintball gun is a bad idea.

Sorry for the rant, just feel that a public insult wasn't neccesary. A nice PM could have avoided all the problems. Take me for instance, I have a jar of peach with NO flavor. Now, Smiley even OFFERED ways to help fix your dilemma, and the attitude persisted. Now that I have it in my friends and all stirred up, I will try it again.

big +1 to tht.

[djnick]

The 15 dollar hookah was def. worth the 15 dollars, you get what you pay for. I have seen 40 dollar hookahs that smoke worse than the 15 dollar hookah. Personally I think the thing smokes like a champ.

Pina Colada isn't a great flavor no matter what brand you are smoking. You should def. try the horchata and peach before you decide to say this brand sucks. And if you still don't like it then put it in the review section.

Personally i think AA is horrible and al waha only has one good flavor. Those two brands don't even stand up to smileys shisha

I never said that it wasnt worth it, i said it was only worth the $15 it was valued, its far from a perfect hookah, actually its a very cheap hookah but for the price it does what its supposed to do but i saw way to many people saying it is an amazing hookah when it is not.

So now everyone is justifying by saying its because of the flavor? Well if smiley wants to sell me his product why would he sample me his "mediocre" flavor? I have had some great pina colladas from others brands i have no idea what your talking about. I even have a few jars on order from other "raved" flavors that i will put to rest once i receive it.

And for the record, your entitled to your opinion about AA and AW, some will disagree some will agree, i personally think both companies have a many flavors that standout from other brands, but i will never say one brand is the best all around because it certainly isnt true with any brand.

Sorry, I had to make a little input. In your post before this, You say everyone is entitled to their OWN opinion. Yet, the bold is a contradiction to that statement. You're basically putting opinion vs. Opinion, which is like debating over religion or politics- No one proves their point, and everyone gets angry. I think you believe everyone is arguing with your opinion. Atleast, that's the mistake you seem to be making. If you had a problem with a flavor, wouldn't it be smarter to contact Smiley Via PM? Let's say you have a product out there, hell, let's even say it's shisha. You have been in the business awhile, and 98% of your customer feedback on the top forum is positive. Well, That means you have little room for improvement. Someone comes onto this forum ( A new person, who hasn't been here long at all, but you respect their opinion nonetheless). And they completely bad mouth your product. Well, you would want to help and try to satisfy them correct?

Imagine your wife bakes a cake, and the neighbor buys it. Now, there is a problem, and this neighbor doesn't like the cake, despite others who do. Now, the neighbor comes over and calmly explains what he didn't like. You thank him, and offer to make it up to him. But when your neighbor rushes over and starts with " Your wife can't bake for shit, it sucks, I never want it again...!" You would probally defend your wife correct? You can see why Smiley responded in that manner. I think it would have been better to post it in the review section, and ask for help in this part of the forum. Wearing a redshirt and jumping into a ring full of bulls with a paintball gun is a bad idea.

Sorry for the rant, just feel that a public insult wasn't neccesary. A nice PM could have avoided all the problems. Take me for instance, I have a jar of peach with NO flavor. Now, Smiley even OFFERED ways to help fix your dilemma, and the attitude persisted. Now that I have it in my friends and all stirred up, I will try it again.

I never had a problem that needed to be resolved in PM, i am allowed to post what i think about something over the forum like everyone else. What justification does anything over PM do? Thats why you arent hearing anything negative about the tobacco, because people like you are encouraging taking problems private when they should be made public. You hear people complain about Tangiers all the time that it doesnt smoke right, i never once say Eric say hey from now on guys pm me with problems i dont want everyone to think my product sucks. Thats why you aren't hearing people give different opinions about this product, because you shun people who do. And as a long time member of this forum, months before you even registered my statements are entitled to a little respect.

Now as far as insulting him, please go back and read the first page of the thread. I simply stated that the product was "okay" and not "mind-blowing" I see that as feedback, i dont know what else to tell you. I never said it sucks, or that it wasnt worth it, i simply said that the OP was unjustified in saying its the best tobacco ever. Now was far as my statements, i have already posted a review for the sample i got, over a month ago and i posted it in that thread, but of course it gets overlooked because it seems people on this forum are sheeps. And never once did smiley offer anything to help, he immediately saw my opinion which wasnt very negative as a threat, and responded way harshly that anything i said about his product. If this is the way he treats customer feedback then he shouldn't do business here, as i will continue to give a piece of my mind if i feel it should be addressed. And besides you go against your own statements. You say that you have a problem with the peach, so you contact him directly to get it resolved, he does whatever he needs to to make you happy. Now you are indebted to him because he took care of you. Your not gonna post on the forum and say the peach was crap, but after a few pms and a custom batch all is good. Instead you should have expressed those views so other ppl dont get shafted. Im already seeing a lot of inconsistency within the brand. If you read the reviews djbomberto gives the cherry a 0/10, and someone else gives it a 10/10. Something does not smell right at all. Edited April 22, 2007 by djnick

[JesusDoesVegas]

Someone very wise once made a comment on arguing on the internet... I don't remember how it went though.


Anyway, Ive only tried cake and naughty cow. The cake was awesome, but the naughty cow was completely lacking of taste. I'll give it another shot, I am assuming its a problem with acclimation or who knows what, but it just smoked... no flavor. I was pleased with the cake though... an odd flavor you dont expect from shisha, and it was pretty dead on.

I have a question about your freezer thing. I was always under the impression storing shisha in the fridge or freezer was very bad for it... why is this all of a sudden a good idea?

[ASUSEAN1]

i just store my smiley shisha in the fridge. It is like that in the lounge and I always have a good session there so I didnt bother asking why. I would recommend doing it with other shisha but with smiley obviously acclimation isnt neccesary.

[NargileClub]

smileys is okay i tried a sample when i got my $15 is was nothing mind blowing, taste was bland, it was pina colada. As far as price AW, AA, are about $8 per 250g, AF, Laya, is about $10, so price isnt that amazing either. seems like your doing a massive plug for smileys and i dont buy it

DJ I really take offense to your staement. I have no one plugging my Shisha. I have been doing this lifestyle for 32 years. I know what I am doing. when it comes to makeing Shisha. The same Pina I sent you for free..by the way. Several people have smoked that past batch. No one includeing myself has had any problems with the flavor. I feel you need to rethink before you start typeing.
Freezer trick has been around for ever. I have been doing this all my life. My grandfather taught it to me. The glyciren just moves faster through the Tobacco. Pushing the flavor farther into the membrain of the Plant. You notice it doesn't freeze but just absorbs into the Tobacco. Try it with Layalina,Alfaker,Alamir,Al waha,any of them it will work. Except for Tangiers. No it will not freeze into a block. Just thicker and drier. Also make sure you mix the shisha up before doing this. If you don't the glycerin gets so cold that it could cause freezer burn with in a day of freezeing. So give it a shot.
DJ try something else before you make a opinion like this one.
Smiley

I am sorry you feel that way smiley but i am entitled to my own opinion. Being in the retail business you should know that everyone is going to have to say about your product, whether is be good or bad, it is customer feedback and you should be using it to improve your product not saying who is right or wrong. Notice how you immediately get negative at me with "I feel you need to rethink before you start typeing." How about next time simply a little "maybe you didnt setup something right, care to explain your process?" I dont know where you are from but around here business with that attitude don't last very long, but then again what do i know you have been doing this for 32 years. I still stand by my statement that i was NOT impressed by the tobacco sample i received, and it seems that a few others had similar views but didnt say it as explicitly. While you have many people that are supporting your product, i have a feeling there are an equal amount of people that will also disagree or even more but the attitude you have been giving people is making them afraid to say anything.

For example your $15 hookah, was far from perfect, i listed many problems with it, yet simply people ignored it, giving it a 10/10 hookah, i think they were just blind sided by the fact that is was so cheap, overlooking that the $15 they spent is pretty much what it was worth anyways. I am not saying you dont deliver a quality product i just think there is a lot of rating inflation.

Oh and btw even though i was not impressed by your sample, i was still gave your product another chance, 2 days before i made that post i ordered 3 tubs of your stuff, just to give it another chance incase i needed to re justify my hypothesis.

"nargileclub@gmail.com" to me show details
Apr 19 (2 days ago)

============ I N V O I C E #1177xxxxxxx
Itemized list of items purchased from Nargile Club:
HCSSS00001_155: Smiley's SEXY Shisha (150g)---margarita---7.00 x 1= 7.00
HCSSS00001_156: Smiley's SEXY Shisha (150g)---hochata---7.00 x 1= 7.00
HCSSS00001_148: Smiley's SEXY Shisha (150g)---peach---7.00 x 1= 7.00


Although i have not received it yet, i am wondering if i am willing to even try it at this point from someone who is not willing to entitle its customers to their own opinions.

good luck to you.

You did not have a opinion. You made accusations about Zero promoting my products. So even if you pull every review of my stuff. It still does not change the fact that you made personal accusation against Zero and I. So if you think your in the right. Your still wrong you broke a rule.You do not make personal attacks on people and you decided to attack two members over your personal problems. So find all the reviews you want. I still feel you attacked me and Zero. As far as for your business. We will always take care of anyone. Even if they think there Opinion was not a Personal Attack. You made you bed ...sleep well friend
Best Regards
Smiley

[wuonice]

ANYWAYS. smiley when you getting the phunnel bowl and starbuzz?!?! i want to order more smiley's but waiting for you to get starbuzz and the bowl too so i can just order it all at the same time. and will you have the scalli mod for sale too? oh yes. Edited April 22, 2007 by wuonice

[djnick]

smileys is okay i tried a sample when i got my $15 is was nothing mind blowing, taste was bland, it was pina colada. As far as price AW, AA, are about $8 per 250g, AF, Laya, is about $10, so price isnt that amazing either. seems like your doing a massive plug for smileys and i dont buy it

DJ I really take offense to your staement. I have no one plugging my Shisha. I have been doing this lifestyle for 32 years. I know what I am doing. when it comes to makeing Shisha. The same Pina I sent you for free..by the way. Several people have smoked that past batch. No one includeing myself has had any problems with the flavor. I feel you need to rethink before you start typeing.
Freezer trick has been around for ever. I have been doing this all my life. My grandfather taught it to me. The glyciren just moves faster through the Tobacco. Pushing the flavor farther into the membrain of the Plant. You notice it doesn't freeze but just absorbs into the Tobacco. Try it with Layalina,Alfaker,Alamir,Al waha,any of them it will work. Except for Tangiers. No it will not freeze into a block. Just thicker and drier. Also make sure you mix the shisha up before doing this. If you don't the glycerin gets so cold that it could cause freezer burn with in a day of freezeing. So give it a shot.
DJ try something else before you make a opinion like this one.
Smiley

I am sorry you feel that way smiley but i am entitled to my own opinion. Being in the retail business you should know that everyone is going to have to say about your product, whether is be good or bad, it is customer feedback and you should be using it to improve your product not saying who is right or wrong. Notice how you immediately get negative at me with "I feel you need to rethink before you start typeing." How about next time simply a little "maybe you didnt setup something right, care to explain your process?" I dont know where you are from but around here business with that attitude don't last very long, but then again what do i know you have been doing this for 32 years. I still stand by my statement that i was NOT impressed by the tobacco sample i received, and it seems that a few others had similar views but didnt say it as explicitly. While you have many people that are supporting your product, i have a feeling there are an equal amount of people that will also disagree or even more but the attitude you have been giving people is making them afraid to say anything.

For example your $15 hookah, was far from perfect, i listed many problems with it, yet simply people ignored it, giving it a 10/10 hookah, i think they were just blind sided by the fact that is was so cheap, overlooking that the $15 they spent is pretty much what it was worth anyways. I am not saying you dont deliver a quality product i just think there is a lot of rating inflation.

Oh and btw even though i was not impressed by your sample, i was still gave your product another chance, 2 days before i made that post i ordered 3 tubs of your stuff, just to give it another chance incase i needed to re justify my hypothesis.

"nargileclub@gmail.com" to me show details
Apr 19 (2 days ago)

============ I N V O I C E #1177xxxxxxx
Itemized list of items purchased from Nargile Club:
HCSSS00001_155: Smiley's SEXY Shisha (150g)---margarita---7.00 x 1= 7.00
HCSSS00001_156: Smiley's SEXY Shisha (150g)---hochata---7.00 x 1= 7.00
HCSSS00001_148: Smiley's SEXY Shisha (150g)---peach---7.00 x 1= 7.00


Although i have not received it yet, i am wondering if i am willing to even try it at this point from someone who is not willing to entitle its customers to their own opinions.

good luck to you.

You did not have a opinion. You made accusations about Zero promoting my products. So even if you pull every review of my stuff. It still does not change the fact that you made personal accusation against Zero and I. So if you think your in the right. Your still wrong you broke a rule.You do not make personal attacks on people and you decided to attack two members over your personal problems. So find all the reviews you want. I still feel you attacked me and Zero. As far as for your business. We will always take care of anyone. Even if they think there Opinion was not a Personal Attack. You made you bed ...sleep well friend
Best Regards
Smiley

Im over this argument just send me my shisha and we can all be happy haha. cheers!

[Shifty]

Someone very wise once made a comment on arguing on the internet... I don't remember how it went though.

I believe that the exact phrase is "Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. No matter who wins, you're still retarded." I laughed my a** of upon reading that for the first time.

All reaspect to the S.O though, wonderful thing they got goin there..

[NargileClub]

Someone very wise once made a comment on arguing on the internet... I don't remember how it went though.

I believe that the exact phrase is "Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. No matter who wins, you're still retarded." I laughed my a** of upon reading that for the first time.

All reaspect to the S.O though, wonderful thing they got goin there..

Shifty and Jesus is right I do apoligize. not for being insulted but argueing.

smiley

[Zerodynamic]

I know I haven't been on the board for the past couple of days, but damn!

Smiley has a reputation that is second to none. I thought that it would be fun to measure the price ratio between Smileys shisha and other brands. I stand by my own opinion, for the money, smileys is the best.... IMHO.

I don't take offense to djnick... I think you are just misguided. Try some of his other flavors and then make an accurate comparison. For example, I think AW 5 star tastes like a sock! But if I made my opinion off of just that flavor, I would be denying myself of some other AWESOME flavors that AW makes, like Orange Cream, or After Nine.

So please guys, lets keep this thread civil before the mod squad locks it, ok?

[Shifty]

As I was saying in the chat room a few nights ago.

I am still fairly new to the Hookah culture. Which I equate to walking into a liqoure store. There are most likely bottles of the best tasting alcohol you would ever have, but will you ever find it? Probably not. There is just far too much out there. Shisha is pretty much the same way. There are many companies offering a wide variety. From what I have tasted so far, Smileys' is the most flavorful, smoothest smoking, and best smelling thus far. I would love hanging out with Smiley at a bar and just racking his brain on how he makes this stuff smell and taste good.

Now, will I in a few months find another brand/type that I enjoy more? It's quite possible, life isn't constant and your needs and likes change over time. The same cereal you ate every morning as a child, may not taste the same now, as it is with everything else. So, for right now, Smiley's is what I enjoy packing my funnel with and watching a movie to.

Thanks Zero for that math. Personally, I thought that Smiley's was a little expensive, but when you broke it down, it is actually a nice middle of the road price. Not the cheapest, and not the most pricey either.

Flame Disclaimer:
These are only my personal opinions and in no way reflect the thoughts and feelings of this board, it's moderators, or their beliefs herein.

S

[Johnny_D]

Time for me to put my spuds in the ring.

You know what... Smiley's is not the best tobacco available.

So why do i love smiley's? Why will i keep ordering it?

Because it's smiley. Here is a guy who has such a love if hookah that he is allways giving advice, talking & helping to make this a real community.

Why do i continue to purchase Smiley's ? Well.. because it's a work-in-progress. And i like to support such works.
One day in years to come when Smiley's sexy shisha is smoked the world over I will be able to tell people that
I knew the man Smiley and talked with him via chat!

Seriously though... that is why you will probably find that people are so bloody suportive of Smiley and his works.

Just my 47p (Inflation!)

JD

[GordonMac]

I think smileys shisha is kick ass. The smoke is very thick and lush and flavor is great. I like the fact that its homemade too. I took it up to MSU this past weekend and everyone loved it. I will deffinatly order from smiley again. I also like this shisha because as someone already said, smiley has a passion for hookah and it shows in the shisha and the customer service is great.

[Vancity604]

smoked my smileys shish today. was impressed with everything but i just order'd a flavor that im not a fan off. but i will definatly be ordering more of it in some other flavors. i have it in the freezer right now might try that again later tonight just to see if it sways me to keep it.

[teox]

my smileys have all been great. whoever said naughty cow smoke tasted like nothing, you might have gotten a bad batch or you might be doing something else wrong. mine is really really wet and full of flavor. not as good or long lasting as SB, but for the price i love it.

[hbomb]

Smiley is the MAN and I fully support him and everything he's doing. He made his own stuff and put it out there for us to enjoy, is taking our input and improving his stuff, inventing new stuff, and helping the hookah community in general. I want to do just what he is doing.

[yashman19]

It looks like the bickering is starting to die out, but just a reminder, please stay on topic from here on out or your post will be deleted. We have a section for reviews just in case anyone forgot.

[manntis]

I was bored in math class so I decided to do the math to compare the cost of Smileys shisha in comparsion to other brands. Since smileys comes in 150g jars, and everyones comes in 250g tubs, I made a ratio of how much smileys should cost if it were 250g.

150g/$7=21.42 grams per dollar.

Lets round to 21.50g.

250g/21.50=$12

So $12 per tub? Its cheaper than AF, SB, Fusion.. pretty much the high end brands, but more expensive than layalina, AW, AA...

IMHO, the price of Smileys is well worth the quality.

I've never tried Smiley's, but I pay only $7.95/250g for Nakhla. Can't stand layalina.

[azcoyote]

I was bored in math class so I decided to do the math to compare the cost of Smileys shisha in comparsion to other brands. Since smileys comes in 150g jars, and everyones comes in 250g tubs, I made a ratio of how much smileys should cost if it were 250g.

150g/$7=21.42 grams per dollar.

Lets round to 21.50g.

250g/21.50=$12

So $12 per tub? Its cheaper than AF, SB, Fusion.. pretty much the high end brands, but more expensive than layalina, AW, AA...

IMHO, the price of Smileys is well worth the quality.

I've never tried Smiley's, but I pay only $7.95/250g for Nakhla. Can't stand layalina.

Yup, it's about twice a much $ as naklah. More than twice the quality, imho. You get what you pays for.

[JesusDoesVegas]

Someone very wise once made a comment on arguing on the internet... I don't remember how it went though.

I believe that the exact phrase is "Arguing on the internet is like competing in the Special Olympics. No matter who wins, you're still retarded." I laughed my a** of upon reading that for the first time.

All reaspect to the S.O though, wonderful thing they got goin there..

That was the quote I was referencing, and I was being facetious when I said I didn't remember the quote. Anyway... Smiley could you go into the freezer thing a little more? This goes against everything I've ever been told about storing shisha. I understand your stuff is REALLY wet, so the drying effect freezing has would hardly matter, but still, this seems wrong. I feel dirty just thinking about putting my shisha into the freezer. Also, I still haven't tried naughty cow again. That first sitting with it killed any interest in trying it again... perhaps I will report in again after a second sampling. Horchata, cake, and orange cream have been nothing but excellent though. Orange cream with SB banana is awesome. I'm doing horchata with SB chocolate strawberry tonight.