Zerodynamic Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 I have smoked all 4 of my flavors, Horchata, Pear, Margarita, and Cake. They are simply fantastic. For the money, they are even better. I was bored in math class so I decided to do the math to compare the cost of Smileys shisha in comparsion to other brands. Since smileys comes in 150g jars, and everyones comes in 250g tubs, I made a ratio of how much smileys should cost if it were 250g. 150g/$7=21.42 grams per dollar. Lets round to 21.50g.250g/21.50=$12So $12 per tub? Its cheaper than AF, SB, Fusion.. pretty much the high end brands, but more expensive than layalina, AW, AA...IMHO, the price of Smileys is well worth the quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalhead209 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 i have heard much talk of smileys flavors not having mutch taste. did you have a diffrent expeirence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerodynamic Posted April 18, 2007 Author Share Posted April 18, 2007 QUOTE (metalhead209 @ Apr 18 2007, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i have heard much talk of smileys flavors not having mutch taste. did you have a diffrent expeirence?Smileys is very tasty. Its not SB, but way better than AA/F/W.. and imho just as comparable as layalina. I love this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalhead209 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 i guess ill have to try some. the taste problem was getting me worried but smiley said something about freezing it then smoking it so ill have to try that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookah Joe Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 QUOTE (metalhead209 @ Apr 18 2007, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i have heard much talk of smileys flavors not having mutch taste. did you have a diffrent expeirence?I believe a few people had some problems with blueberry. Smiley said they were working on the problem. Everyone else has said WONDERFUL things. I am going to try some peach in a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASUSEAN1 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 smiley shisha is def worth the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
web250 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 QUOTE (Zerodynamic @ Apr 18 2007, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (metalhead209 @ Apr 18 2007, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i have heard much talk of smileys flavors not having mutch taste. did you have a diffrent expeirence?Smileys is very tasty. Its not SB, but way better than AA/F/W.. and imho just as comparable as layalina. I love this stuff.If it's comparapble to Layalina, why not go with layalina, considering it is usually around $9?Smiley's still wins on uniqueness of flavors over Layalina though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilTank13 Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 QUOTE If it's comparapble to Layalina, why not go with layalina, considering it is usually around $9?Smiley's still wins on uniqueness of flavors over Layalina though.Smiley's stuff puts out MASSIVE clouds, is sooooo maintenance free to smoke, lasts for frickin ever, and has more unique flavor. The mouth feel of the smoke is amazing also... Layalina is good, they are the best watermelon imho, but I haven't had a smiley watermelon With layalina I get decent clouds, def. plenty enough to do rings etc, but smiley's is a whole nother animal in my experiences... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASUSEAN1 Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 QUOTE (web250 @ Apr 18 2007, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Zerodynamic @ Apr 18 2007, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (metalhead209 @ Apr 18 2007, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i have heard much talk of smileys flavors not having mutch taste. did you have a diffrent expeirence?Smileys is very tasty. Its not SB, but way better than AA/F/W.. and imho just as comparable as layalina. I love this stuff.If it's comparapble to Layalina, why not go with layalina, considering it is usually around $9?Smiley's still wins on uniqueness of flavors over Layalina though.+1, layalina and smileys are my go to shisha, along with tangiers for the kick in the ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NargileClub Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 Hey guys thank you for all of your support. The Freezer trick is a Old World Idea. We use to do that all the time. This helps with flavor. It really works. I took some Al waha Rasberry. Smoked it before the freezer. It was good. But after the freezer trick it was amazing. Also all of the Juice absorbed into the Tobaccoc. Try it. Put some into a clear bag and watch the juice dissapear and absorbed up by the Tobacco. Also Sean I am makeing Smiley's Dark and Lovely, Th new Smiley's Mr Nature. A Tobaccoless Shisha. No I am not useing Sugar Cane Stalk. I am useing something else. Its really amazeing in flavor.The first flavor for the Dark and Lovely will be Black and Blue,Dark Prickly Pear Sensation, Mr Nature's first flavors will be Cherry, Blueberry,Peach,Mango and many others. Mr Nature makes any Herbal Shisha look like a punk. LOL But really thanks again for all of the kind words. I am working really hard to come up with new products all the time. Its my creative outlet. I love makeing Shisha,Smoke well friends and Family. you all freakin RAWK!!!!Smiley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djnick Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 smileys is okay i tried a sample when i got my $15 is was nothing mind blowing, taste was bland, it was pina colada. As far as price AW, AA, are about $8 per 250g, AF, Laya, is about $10, so price isnt that amazing either. seems like your doing a massive plug for smileys and i dont buy it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allia22 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Throw it in the freezer, I'm on day one of my experiment with it. I'll have results after tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilTank13 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Had bubbleberry in the freezer for 4 hrs and smoked it.... THE BEST SESSION OF MY LIFE!!! Clouds were bigger than normal, flavor was awesome, and it lasted soooooo much longer... All around a great tip! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shifty Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Brainfart here... Wouldn't putting shisha in the freezer for 4 hours turn it into a block? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cafesaden Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 QUOTE (Shifty @ Apr 20 2007, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Brainfart here... Wouldn't putting shisha in the freezer for 4 hours turn it into a block?probably in small quantities but a big block of shisha probably not (250 grams) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cafesaden Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 QUOTE (djnick @ Apr 19 2007, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>smileys is okay i tried a sample when i got my $15 is was nothing mind blowing, taste was bland, it was pina colada. As far as price AW, AA, are about $8 per 250g, AF, Laya, is about $10, so price isnt that amazing either. seems like your doing a massive plug for smileys and i dont buy iti honestly dont think smiley needs this post for a sales boost; he's doing quite well, and I think that it is mind blowing. try a different flavor then make a decision. pina colada sucks in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NargileClub Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 QUOTE (djnick @ Apr 19 2007, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>smileys is okay i tried a sample when i got my $15 is was nothing mind blowing, taste was bland, it was pina colada. As far as price AW, AA, are about $8 per 250g, AF, Laya, is about $10, so price isnt that amazing either. seems like your doing a massive plug for smileys and i dont buy itDJ I really take offense to your staement. I have no one plugging my Shisha. I have been doing this lifestyle for 32 years. I know what I am doing. when it comes to makeing Shisha. The same Pina I sent you for free..by the way. Several people have smoked that past batch. No one includeing myself has had any problems with the flavor. I feel you need to rethink before you start typeing.Freezer trick has been around for ever. I have been doing this all my life. My grandfather taught it to me. The glyciren just moves faster through the Tobacco. Pushing the flavor farther into the membrain of the Plant. You notice it doesn't freeze but just absorbs into the Tobacco. Try it with Layalina,Alfaker,Alamir,Al waha,any of them it will work. Except for Tangiers. No it will not freeze into a block. Just thicker and drier. Also make sure you mix the shisha up before doing this. If you don't the glycerin gets so cold that it could cause freezer burn with in a day of freezeing. So give it a shot.DJ try something else before you make a opinion like this one.Smiley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Do I leave the shisha in the freezer with or without the lid? and for how long? cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NargileClub Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 QUOTE (billy @ Apr 21 2007, 10:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Do I leave the shisha in the freezer with or without the lid? and for how long? cheers. Stir it up and leave the lid screwed on.Smiley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djnick Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 QUOTE (NargileClub @ Apr 21 2007, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (djnick @ Apr 19 2007, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>smileys is okay i tried a sample when i got my $15 is was nothing mind blowing, taste was bland, it was pina colada. As far as price AW, AA, are about $8 per 250g, AF, Laya, is about $10, so price isnt that amazing either. seems like your doing a massive plug for smileys and i dont buy itDJ I really take offense to your staement. I have no one plugging my Shisha. I have been doing this lifestyle for 32 years. I know what I am doing. when it comes to makeing Shisha. The same Pina I sent you for free..by the way. Several people have smoked that past batch. No one includeing myself has had any problems with the flavor. I feel you need to rethink before you start typeing.Freezer trick has been around for ever. I have been doing this all my life. My grandfather taught it to me. The glyciren just moves faster through the Tobacco. Pushing the flavor farther into the membrain of the Plant. You notice it doesn't freeze but just absorbs into the Tobacco. Try it with Layalina,Alfaker,Alamir,Al waha,any of them it will work. Except for Tangiers. No it will not freeze into a block. Just thicker and drier. Also make sure you mix the shisha up before doing this. If you don't the glycerin gets so cold that it could cause freezer burn with in a day of freezeing. So give it a shot.DJ try something else before you make a opinion like this one.SmileyI am sorry you feel that way smiley but i am entitled to my own opinion. Being in the retail business you should know that everyone is going to have to say about your product, whether is be good or bad, it is customer feedback and you should be using it to improve your product not saying who is right or wrong. Notice how you immediately get negative at me with "I feel you need to rethink before you start typeing." How about next time simply a little "maybe you didnt setup something right, care to explain your process?" I dont know where you are from but around here business with that attitude don't last very long, but then again what do i know you have been doing this for 32 years. I still stand by my statement that i was NOT impressed by the tobacco sample i received, and it seems that a few others had similar views but didnt say it as explicitly. While you have many people that are supporting your product, i have a feeling there are an equal amount of people that will also disagree or even more but the attitude you have been giving people is making them afraid to say anything. For example your $15 hookah, was far from perfect, i listed many problems with it, yet simply people ignored it, giving it a 10/10 hookah, i think they were just blind sided by the fact that is was so cheap, overlooking that the $15 they spent is pretty much what it was worth anyways. I am not saying you dont deliver a quality product i just think there is a lot of rating inflation.Oh and btw even though i was not impressed by your sample, i was still gave your product another chance, 2 days before i made that post i ordered 3 tubs of your stuff, just to give it another chance incase i needed to re justify my hypothesis."nargileclub@gmail.com" to me show details Apr 19 (2 days ago)============ I N V O I C E #1177xxxxxxxItemized list of items purchased from Nargile Club:HCSSS00001_155: Smiley's SEXY Shisha (150g)---margarita---7.00 x 1= 7.00HCSSS00001_156: Smiley's SEXY Shisha (150g)---hochata---7.00 x 1= 7.00HCSSS00001_148: Smiley's SEXY Shisha (150g)---peach---7.00 x 1= 7.00Although i have not received it yet, i am wondering if i am willing to even try it at this point from someone who is not willing to entitle its customers to their own opinions.good luck to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASUSEAN1 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 (edited) The 15 dollar hookah was def. worth the 15 dollars, you get what you pay for. I have seen 40 dollar hookahs that smoke worse than the 15 dollar hookah. Personally I think the thing smokes like a champ.Pina Colada isn't a great flavor no matter what brand you are smoking. You should def. try the horchata and peach before you decide to say this brand sucks. And if you still don't like it then put it in the review section.Personally i think AA is horrible and al waha only has one good flavor. Those two brands don't even stand up to smileys shisha Edited April 21, 2007 by ASUSEAN1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djnick Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 QUOTE (ASUSEAN1 @ Apr 21 2007, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The 15 dollar hookah was def. worth the 15 dollars, you get what you pay for. I have seen 40 dollar hookahs that smoke worse than the 15 dollar hookah. Personally I think the thing smokes like a champ.Pina Colada isn't a great flavor no matter what brand you are smoking. You should def. try the horchata and peach before you decide to say this brand sucks. And if you still don't like it then put it in the review section.Personally i think AA is horrible and al waha only has one good flavor. Those two brands don't even stand up to smileys shishaI never said that it wasnt worth it, i said it was only worth the $15 it was valued, its far from a perfect hookah, actually its a very cheap hookah but for the price it does what its supposed to do but i saw way to many people saying it is an amazing hookah when it is not.So now everyone is justifying by saying its because of the flavor? Well if smiley wants to sell me his product why would he sample me his "mediocre" flavor? I have had some great pina colladas from others brands i have no idea what your talking about. I even have a few jars on order from other "raved" flavors that i will put to rest once i receive it.And for the record, your entitled to your opinion about AA and AW, some will disagree some will agree, i personally think both companies have a many flavors that standout from other brands, but i will never say one brand is the best all around because it certainly isnt true with any brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASUSEAN1 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 (edited) yea for 15 dollars it is an amazing hookah. obviously if you spend 200 dollars on a hookah it is going to be better, which i have a 200 dollar hookah and smoke that one over the smiley 15 but it still gets use.once you try more than 1 flavor from a company than you have the right to make a opinion that will be credible. I have tried brands and said this flavor really sucks but i always tried a couple more flavors before i said the company sucks and its not worth buying itbtw AA taste like chemicals.. Edited April 21, 2007 by ASUSEAN1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdmopar Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 QUOTE (djnick @ Apr 21 2007, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (NargileClub @ Apr 21 2007, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (djnick @ Apr 19 2007, 04:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>smileys is okay i tried a sample when i got my $15 is was nothing mind blowing, taste was bland, it was pina colada. As far as price AW, AA, are about $8 per 250g, AF, Laya, is about $10, so price isnt that amazing either. seems like your doing a massive plug for smileys and i dont buy itDJ I really take offense to your staement. I have no one plugging my Shisha. I have been doing this lifestyle for 32 years. I know what I am doing. when it comes to makeing Shisha. The same Pina I sent you for free..by the way. Several people have smoked that past batch. No one includeing myself has had any problems with the flavor. I feel you need to rethink before you start typeing.Freezer trick has been around for ever. I have been doing this all my life. My grandfather taught it to me. The glyciren just moves faster through the Tobacco. Pushing the flavor farther into the membrain of the Plant. You notice it doesn't freeze but just absorbs into the Tobacco. Try it with Layalina,Alfaker,Alamir,Al waha,any of them it will work. Except for Tangiers. No it will not freeze into a block. Just thicker and drier. Also make sure you mix the shisha up before doing this. If you don't the glycerin gets so cold that it could cause freezer burn with in a day of freezeing. So give it a shot.DJ try something else before you make a opinion like this one.SmileyI am sorry you feel that way smiley but i am entitled to my own opinion. Being in the retail business you should know that everyone is going to have to say about your product, whether is be good or bad, it is customer feedback and you should be using it to improve your product not saying who is right or wrong. Notice how you immediately get negative at me with "I feel you need to rethink before you start typeing." How about next time simply a little "maybe you didnt setup something right, care to explain your process?" I dont know where you are from but around here business with that attitude don't last very long, but then again what do i know you have been doing this for 32 years. I still stand by my statement that i was NOT impressed by the tobacco sample i received, and it seems that a few others had similar views but didnt say it as explicitly. While you have many people that are supporting your product, i have a feeling there are an equal amount of people that will also disagree or even more but the attitude you have been giving people is making them afraid to say anything. For example your $15 hookah, was far from perfect, i listed many problems with it, yet simply people ignored it, giving it a 10/10 hookah, i think they were just blind sided by the fact that is was so cheap, overlooking that the $15 they spent is pretty much what it was worth anyways. I am not saying you dont deliver a quality product i just think there is a lot of rating inflation.Oh and btw even though i was not impressed by your sample, i was still gave your product another chance, 2 days before i made that post i ordered 3 tubs of your stuff, just to give it another chance incase i needed to re justify my hypothesis."nargileclub@gmail.com" to me show details Apr 19 (2 days ago)============ I N V O I C E #1177xxxxxxxItemized list of items purchased from Nargile Club:HCSSS00001_155: Smiley's SEXY Shisha (150g)---margarita---7.00 x 1= 7.00HCSSS00001_156: Smiley's SEXY Shisha (150g)---hochata---7.00 x 1= 7.00HCSSS00001_148: Smiley's SEXY Shisha (150g)---peach---7.00 x 1= 7.00Although i have not received it yet, i am wondering if i am willing to even try it at this point from someone who is not willing to entitle its customers to their own opinions.good luck to you.Well if you dont like them then please send it my way. I will gladly pay for shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djnick Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 (edited) QUOTE (ASUSEAN1 @ Apr 21 2007, 02:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>yea for 15 dollars it is an amazing hookah. obviously if you spend 200 dollars on a hookah it is going to be better, which i have a 200 dollar hookah and smoke that one over the smiley 15 but it still gets use.once you try more than 1 flavor from a company than you have the right to make a opinion that will be credible. I have tried brands and said this flavor really sucks but i always tried a couple more flavors before i said the company sucks and its not worth buying itbtw AA taste like chemicals..Thats why i placed an order before i even posted those comments, because i knew what the reaction would be, so basically i have my stance on it already, if it changes once i smoke my order then i will gladly take back what i said, otherwise it still stands. I shouldnt have to purchase the entire line of tobacco to see if its good, and if the brand is what you all say it is then the sample i received should have been the thing to impress me but it definitely did not. Edited April 21, 2007 by djnick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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