Rapmaster Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 I need as much information as possible about the "exploding" golden coals. I currently use 3 kings and they are quite frankly, terrible. I was thinking of switching to the golden coals. The exploding coal theory scares me and I was wondering, is there any way to prevent this or to protect against it when they do? Will a wind cover block the flying debris? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapmaster Posted May 2, 2005 Author Share Posted May 2, 2005 Also, where can I get golden coals besides hookah-shisha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyteboy Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 i happen to like the 3kings...unless I know no better right now. I'd love to hear more on the exploding coals thing also... I emailed social smoke asking of all the coals they sell, what is the best for the LEAST taste affecting the taste of your ma'assel....they said 3kings as long as you make sure it is done sparking and is completely lit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapmaster Posted May 2, 2005 Author Share Posted May 2, 2005 [quote name='wyteboy']i happen to like the 3kings...unless I know no better right now. I'd love to hear more on the exploding coals thing also... I emailed social smoke asking of all the coals they sell, what is the best for the LEAST taste affecting the taste of your ma'assel....they said 3kings as long as you make sure it is done sparking and is completely lit...[/quote] Well, note that they sell 3kings, japanese coals, and olive wood coals. Had they carried both golden and 3kings, I might be more inclined to believe that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathazar Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 Golden Coals DO explode from time-to-time, but they're the ONLY quick-lite coal on the market that stay lit longer than any other and imparts NO charcoal odor or flavor in the smoke whatsoever. Like I said, they explode, my carpet is proof of that. But they don't explode all the time. Usually out of one box, I might get one or two that combust, but as long as you've got a safe area to light them, then you'll be fine. Either light them in the kitchen sink or outside. You're really supposed to light them outside, but since my floor already looks like a battlefield, I just light them at my computer desk where my hookah is located. Despite the infrequent explosions, I would reccommend Golden Coals as the BEST quick-lite to anyone whose looking for a FANTASTIC smoking session. Once they're lit, they don't explode, it's only when you're lighting them that you have to be careful. I'm sending some to wyteboy, I'm sure he'll give you a good report on how spectacular there babies really are. You can get a 10 pak for $12 over at: www.SouthSmoke.com That's 100 coals. Don't worry about the explosions, just light them in a safe environment, like outside, and you'll be fine. One trick I found to be effective with Goldens is to hold the coal very tight with the tongs, so then if they combust there's less chance of it flying in a million different directions. Just go ahead and buy a box, you'll be VERY happy you did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyteboy Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 they said the japanese and the olive wood both leave a sort of natural, woody, oak-y kind of an aftertaste on your ma'assel... are you sure your 3 kings have been completely lit before using them? I haved 9 3kings coals now and have had very pleasant smokes with them....at least I think. we'll see when I get some golden's if they're a lot better, but I too would like as much info or input about the exploding coals...it happens just when you light it? I am nervous about lighting one and having it explode all over my kitchen floor.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyteboy Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 and I guess I could walk outside my apt building, light it, hope it doesnt explode in my face, then walk back in through my apt building with this coal on a plate, lol, but that seems like a royal pain in the a$$ when I know 3kings won't explode....is the quality of the smoke from golden quicklight THAT much better from the 3king? I am excited to find out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathazar Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 They're WORLDS apart!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyteboy Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 my electric stove is in my kitchen (duh lol, i feeel dumb) so if it explodes it will fall on my tile floor and burn... should i REALLY take the time to walk outside, light it with a match, blow on it til it stops sparking (just like the 3kings, right?) then walk back in to the apt? Math, this may seem lame but can you give some sort of timeframe for when to know when it's safe that it won't explode? like if it doesn't do it within the first 30 seconds? or 3 minutes? or 5 minutes? etc, then you're fine and the coal won't explode...that would be helpful since I will probably plan to just light it on my electric stove and take my chances, though I dunno... p.s. if this company makes exploding coals, I am surprised there hasnt been a major injury as a result or a lawsuit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZooJohnnyZETA Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 Hmm.. Am I really that much of a heathen that I notice zero taste difference between Three Kings and Golden quicklights? To me they both add zero flavor the massell and seem to last equally long durations (about 45 minutes to an hour). The only real differences between the two I find are that Golden coals are a bit softer and break apart more easily but are also highly prone to exploding. So for me the best option is really Three Kings. No added flavor and no risk of property damage and/or physical injury with Three Kings. As far as "when" the Goldens may explode I can give you a few different examples of my experiances. About 4 or 5 times I had a Golden coal explode while I was lighting it. And whenever I say "explode" I dont mean that the coal just burst into a few peices and broke apart.... I mean that the coal literally blew up like somone had shoved a fire cracker inside it. Needless to say its quite frightening to be holding a coal in your tongs two feet or less away from you and have it explode like a miniature grenade. I'm just lucky I wear glasses so I didnt sustain any injury to my eyes. However my carpet, reclining chair, bed, and computor chair were not so lucky. But most of the time when my Goldens exploded (which is like 8 or 10 times) it was right in the middle of a smoking session. Maybe 15 to 40 minutes into it in most cases. The coal exploded in the same way and sent showers of burning schrapnel in every direction, charring and burning everything in sight. I swear I've lost several pairs of pants and shirts to those damn things. You'd think after the first few times I would have stopped smoking Goldens. Unfortunately I had bought 2 boxes of them from Hookah Shisha so I pretty much had to use them up. Id say on average about 1 out of every 15 Goldens exploded on me. The ones that didnt completely explode would often just send a small chunk of the coal flying across the room when I lit it or simply flare up with a huge burst of sparks right in my face. Id say those were about 2 out of every 10. The whole point of this excessively long post is just to let you know that when you smoke with Golden quicklights you are taking a pretty big risk of damaging your property and/or your body. So if your going to smoke with Golden coals all I can really tell you is... "Smoke At Your Own Risk!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyteboy Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 well now you got me all worried! I couldnt afford more than a $30 hookah and Cypress was nice enough to send some AF samples so i could try em lol. i def can't afford to burn my kitchen floor or carpet...I'll reserve the Golden's for trying them at my friend's apt I guess.... though the idea of worrying about a coal exploding during my smoke seems that it would take away from the um....RELAXATION of the smoke, lol! zjz thoughts on the fumari and hh reviews i did tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZooJohnnyZETA Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 [quote name='wyteboy']the idea of worrying about a coal exploding during my smoke seems that it would take away from the um....RELAXATION of the smoke, lol![/quote] It certainly removed the relaxing aspect from the smoking sessions, that it did LOL Almost like smoking your hookah down in a bunker in the middle of a battlefield. Puffing away whilst waiting for the next frag grenade to break the quiet calm of the bubbling water...yes...Golden is war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR Bubble Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 Wow, I'm really no fan of Golden coals either, but I never had them go ballistic after they were fully lit. They always went "over the top" while they were in the process of lighting up. Glad I stopped getting them 2 years ago. 3 Kings on the other hand are prone to little outbursts, but nothing on that scale. They seem to be a little more consistant for me, unless they get old. It gets humin here in crawdad land and they get hard to light sometimes. Due to MRS Bubble's displeasure of the burns here and there I have been lighting ALL coals on the stove. Once lit, I place them on the bowl (while holding it in my hand) and then place the bowl on the machine (wherever it is located). Yes, steady hands are a must. I bet those babies will hurt if they fell off onto my thumb. One thing you can do is place a tin can (a few holes punched in the bottom) on the stove (gas or electric) and put your coal in them unti llit really, really well. Have fun and Happy Monday! MR Bubble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathazar Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 I've never EVER had trouble with them exploding after being lit. But, as I've said before, they DO explode........SOMETIMES!!! I've certainly not had the frequent explosions that zjz has had, but yeah, every once in awhile a burst of sparks will fly up in my face. Fortunately I wear large glass. I've been thinking about getting a welding mask Just kidding! But, seriously, goggles wouldn't be a bad idea. wyteboy.......you still want me to send these Goldens to you? What everyone says is true, Goldens WILL ruin your carpet and anything else in the facinity that melts or burns But, I continue using them because my carpet is already ruined. It's going to cost my insurance company around $1200 to replace it. Of course, I'm not going to replace it until I move out, and that could be years. wyteboy, no I don't think you should go outside to light your coals. I figured if you had a patio or a back yard that you could light them outside. But, going thru the process you're talking about is rediculous. I think, after reading all these posts, that if you're truly happy with 3kings, then stay with them. Goldens can be a bit of trouble from time-to-time, but I love them anyway. As for the exploding coals, like I said, get a pair of goggles and light them in the kitchen sink. Other than that, I can't give you any more advice, because there's only so much you can do to protect yourself from exploding coals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypress Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 Yall are all getting paranoid over nothing. They dont explode like a fire cracker. As far as the tile, wyteboy, ceramic does not burn unless you are talking about linolium (sp). They never explode after being lit. Just light them over a sink, outside, or use my method thad I have explained on this forum sooo many times. I am going to work on a video today with my digital camera and you can see the differences in lemonwood, nours, goldens, and japaneese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyteboy Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 Thanks cypress for the advice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathazar Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 wyteboy........I UPS'd the Goldens to you along with some 3kings. They'll be there on Thursday. If they don't arrive as expected, then let me know, and I'll look into it for you. I sent you one and a half boxes of Golden's and some 3kings. I finished-up the last of my tobacco today, and have decided to quit smoking for now, or until Hookah-Shisa and HookahHookah release there new flavors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyteboy Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 wow Math, thanks so much!! Decided to quit?? Wow, is that an unexpected announcement or did I miss something??? Congrats man and good luck, we're all here for you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathazar Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 Yeah, now I'm back to smoking cigars though........another vice I need to quit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyteboy Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 Thing is Cypress, zjz is saying they have exploded on him MULTIPLE times while smoking and that they DO explode like a firecracker...so that makes me nervous...but i wiill absolutely give them a try sometime to see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiZZles Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Well I first started using the Al Ajdad (Nour) Coals and I just hated breaking them up and then walking back and forth to the kitchen to light them. Plus I also hated how messy they got when you would move them around the bowl. Then I tried the japanese coals and they were pretty nice. Not as messy but I still had to walk back and forth to the kitchen. So now I'm using 3 Kings coals and I like it. It does give off an odor when first lit but I do not notice any difference in taste between the other charcoals that I have used so far. The 3 Kings are not that messy and I can just use my torch lighter to get them going. So far these are the coals that are working for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NERV Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 one time i got a horrible batch where nearly every coal in the box exploded and i when i say exploded i mean my house wudve burned down if i didnt have the lgihitng chamber, cuz my room is a bit messy and i guarentee a chunk wudve gone somewher ei wudnt notice till it was too late, but no coal brand is 100% safe, ive had 3 kings and other brands pop and spray, but they usually wont actully explode like golden or original star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathazar Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Well, wyteboy, you're getting around 160 Goldens from me, so that ought to give you plenty of chances to test them out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyteboy Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 geez, thanks Math so much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypress Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 I guess the way that I light them I have no possible chance of them setting a fire. I just made a video and I am in the process of hosting them so I can post it in the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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