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Am I the only Firefox 2 user who has trouble posting threads or messages?

I keep having to switch to Internet Explorer everytime I want to post something. In Firefox the message box is often unusable.

Does the forum software use something weird: like Flash or Shockwave, for those functions?

To be honest, it is kind of frustrating switching back and forth. I hate Internet Explorer!

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QUOTE (PerznPerversion @ May 13 2007, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
no problems here, i use firefox too


I'm using 2.0.0.3 too.

Perhaps it is/was one of my security plugins. I did give this site permission for the No Script plugin; so java and java script should work. I also just gave permission for referrers in RefControl and since I am writing this in Firefox right now, I think that may have fixed it!

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Most website don't actually need referrers to work properly; but I know of at least one other forum that does as well. Edited by Canuck Noob
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At my office (software developer), we have several non-technical type people who regularly use IE. One of the developers still thinks IE is the best thing since sliced bread and another developer seems to use it about half the time. In all honesty, IE7 is a decent browser and much more secure than any previous IE. I prefer Firefox myself and use it exclusively, but I was surprised to find out the IE isn't the buggy pile of crap it once was.

No forum problems for me (Firefox 2.0.0.3).
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no issues here either (although they MAKE me use IE @ work, I use FF @ home) My BF complains it's buggy - but he's not overly computer user friendly... The ONLY site I ever had (HAD - upgraded, better) was MySpace... but with the last upgrade, it works fine now smile.gif
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QUOTE (ioannisds @ May 14 2007, 08:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


im not sure why cnet review sites would lie about security but it can be true.

Newayz i use Opera/Firefox the most and IE for certain webpages.

Opera/firefox in my opinion beats IE out of the water.
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QUOTE (ioannisds @ May 14 2007, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


Im afraid that citing sites such as these are of no use as its fairly easy to quote some stats from some random sites on the net and compile a document to make anything look good or bad.

Malware authors target the products with the most market share because it makes the most economic sense. For those who are unaware, most hackers (blackhat) make money by getting out as much spam and ads on as many machines as they can. That involves exploiting as many machines as they can. Ideally they want to create software expolits that propogate on their own (via e-mail attachments, websites etc.). Since writing muti-platform (OS) software exploits isn't feasible, they write the exploits for the software that most people use, hence IE, Windows, and Office are their best bets and therefore their biggest focus.

Microsoft actually does a decent job of getting out patches but it is having a hard time dealing with all the exploits that spring up. Firefox is definitley more secure than IE6. IE7 and Firefox are currently about equally as secure due to the fact that the IE7 overhaul is causing hackers to have to look for new ways to hack it. For the reasons stated above, it is only a matter of time until they learn the tricks neccessary to get through IE7 security. The fact that micorsoft is unwilling to overhaul its browser nearly as often as firefox makes it inherently a less secure platform. Microsoft markets "better security"/software overhauls as incentives to buy their new products. Many people are more likley to buy a new computer once it is too bogged down with malware. Buying these new machines means more copies of windows sold. Knowing this, Microsoft withholds the best security measures for their new products. In the open-source world (firefox, linux) you get this sort of thing regularly for free.

As it currently stands, I recommend using firefox over IE7. One is not neccessarily more secure than the other at this point but you might as well switch now and get used to firefox because IE7 will definitley be more exploited in the future and you wil have to seriosuly consider jumping ship again anyway. Besides, firefox embraces customibility wheresas IE does not which makes Firefox much more convinient to use with its extensions.

For the record im running Firefox 2.0.0.3 in Ubuntu 7.04 and I havent had any issues with any websites.

- misterbeetz
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QUOTE (misterbeetz @ May 14 2007, 10:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ioannisds @ May 14 2007, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


Im afraid that citing sites such as these are of no use as its fairly easy to quote some stats from some random sites on the net and compile a document to make anything look good or bad.

Malware authors target the products with the most market share because it makes the most economic sense. For those who are unaware, most hackers (blackhat) make money by getting out as much spam and ads on as many machines as they can. That involves exploiting as many machines as they can. Ideally they want to create software expolits that propogate on their own (via e-mail attachments, websites etc.). Since writing muti-platform (OS) software exploits isn't feasible, they write the exploits for the software that most people use, hence IE, Windows, and Office are their best bets and therefore their biggest focus.

Microsoft actually does a decent job of getting out patches but it is having a hard time dealing with all the exploits that spring up. Firefox is definitley more secure than IE6. IE7 and Firefox are currently about equally as secure due to the fact that the IE7 overhaul is causing hackers to have to look for new ways to hack it. For the reasons stated above, it is only a matter of time until they learn the tricks neccessary to get through IE7 security. The fact that micorsoft is unwilling to overhaul its browser nearly as often as firefox makes it inherently a less secure platform. Microsoft markets "better security"/software overhauls as incentives to buy their new products. Many people are more likley to buy a new computer once it is too bogged down with malware. Buying these new machines means more copies of windows sold. Knowing this, Microsoft withholds the best security measures for their new products. In the open-source world (firefox, linux) you get this sort of thing regularly for free.

As it currently stands, I recommend using firefox over IE7. One is not neccessarily more secure than the other at this point but you might as well switch now and get used to firefox because IE7 will definitley be more exploited in the future and you wil have to seriosuly consider jumping ship again anyway. Besides, firefox embraces customibility wheresas IE does not which makes Firefox much more convinient to use with its extensions.

For the record im running Firefox 2.0.0.3 in Ubuntu 7.04 and I havent had any issues with any websites.

- misterbeetz


hehe u use ubuntu smile.gif
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QUOTE (PerznPerversion @ May 14 2007, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hehe u use ubuntu smile.gif


Yes indeed. Ubuntu (Linux) is the shiznit and the following link explains why:

http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/

Oh snap, theres my link of choice. tongue.gif

- misterbeetz
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QUOTE (misterbeetz @ May 14 2007, 10:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (PerznPerversion @ May 14 2007, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hehe u use ubuntu smile.gif


Yes indeed. Ubuntu (Linux) is the shiznit and the following link explains why:

http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/

Oh snap, theres my link of choice. tongue.gif

- misterbeetz


i have ubuntu but i prefer not 2 use it because im a pc gamer. so yea u know the problem with that :-\
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QUOTE (PerznPerversion @ May 14 2007, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (misterbeetz @ May 14 2007, 10:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (PerznPerversion @ May 14 2007, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hehe u use ubuntu smile.gif


Yes indeed. Ubuntu (Linux) is the shiznit and the following link explains why:

http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/

Oh snap, theres my link of choice. tongue.gif

- misterbeetz


i have ubuntu but i prefer not 2 use it because im a pc gamer. so yea u know the problem with that :-\


Yeah I hear ya. Hopefully that will start to change with Dell offering machines pre-installed with Ubuntu-Linux.

- misterbeetz
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Seems I spoke prematurely. I am still having problems. Any one know if this site uses Shockwave or Flash?

I think I'll try installing, or reinstalling, them both just to see if it has any effect.

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QUOTE (Canuck Noob @ May 14 2007, 01:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Seems I spoke prematurely. I am still having problems. Any one know if this site uses Shockwave or Flash?

I think I'll try installing, or reinstalling, them both just to see if it has any effect.

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I think you might want to try going cold turkey on the No Javascript plugins. They tend to cause more harm than good. Disable the plugin in FF and see if that helps.

- misterbeetz
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I installed Flash and Shockwave...no change.

I disabled Adblock and restarted Firefox...no change.

I disabled NoScript and restarted Firefox...no change.

I noticed that in Refcontrol I had added an exception for hookahforum.com and www.hookahforum.com but not http://www.hookahforum.com. I added another entry with the full http:// and I think that may have done it. At least I hope it did!

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