Questions About Coals

[tj154906]

I have a few questions about coals. Firstly, how hot do the coals burn. I guess that it would probably be different for each coal, but what would you say that the ideal temperature is? Secondly, what is the best method to ash ones coals as they burn? Thanks.

[Johnny_D]

Christ, How long is a piece of string?

This is going to depend on a whole rast of variables.

In my experience though, The coals burn hot enough to enjoy the hookah

As for ashing i find the silver-light coals ash very easily and cleanly.

JD

[tj154906]

Christ, How long is a piece of string?

This is going to depend on a whole rast of variables.

In my experience though, The coals burn hot enough to enjoy the hookah

As for ashing i find the silver-light coals ash very easily and cleanly.

JD

Do you just drop them into the tray to knock the ash off?

[Johnny_D]

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JD

Do you just drop them into the tray to knock the ash off?

Yep

But it's not entirely necessary.

JD

[EternalSoil]

I use 3 kings and when they get a small layer of ash on them i gently pick them up so i dont knock any off. then i drop the in the tray a few times and put them back on the foil. A trick (kinda a trick) i use with 3K is if im not getting enough heat i put the side with the little dent in it on the foil, if too much heat i put the side with the dome on the foil. i use 2 coals at a time. Dent-->] )< dome.

[Calcartman]

im not sure about the burning temperature, but wind, how frequently you pull, the ambient temperature and humidity, and voodoo are all going to affect what the "ideal" temperature is.

I dont know what the ideal temperature is, but i know when ive found it.
When my hookah tickles the back of my throat, and im getting big clouds of smoke, and a little bit of smoke is flying off the top of the bowl.
Thats where i keep it.

[tj154906]

im not sure about the burning temperature, but wind, how frequently you pull, the ambient temperature and humidity, and voodoo are all going to affect what the "ideal" temperature is.

I dont know what the ideal temperature is, but i know when ive found it.
When my hookah tickles the back of my throat, and im getting big clouds of smoke, and a little bit of smoke is flying off the top of the bowl.
Thats where i keep it.

That's where I like it too. I don't really need to know what temperature is ideal, I just wondered.

[Sonthert]

Since the phase change in question moderates the temperature, I would guess around 450F early in the bowl, 550F later in the bowl. Those numbers are for Tangiers smoking. Thats also for the bottom side...the one facing the tobacco/touching the foil.

[tj154906]

Since the phase change in question moderates the temperature, I would guess around 450F early in the bowl, 550F later in the bowl. Those numbers are for Tangiers smoking. Thats also for the bottom side...the one facing the tobacco/touching the foil.

I'm embarrassed to say that I've never tried Tangiers. I think I'd like too though. Gotta wait till next paycheck.

[Sonthert]

Just because I know a lot of technical this and that doesn't mean the tobacco's any good...I might like inhaling battery acid, for all you know.

The temperature for other brands probably is lower 220F or 300F or so because of the high water content.

[mellamobunny.]

battery acid...is that a new f-line flavor?

[tj154906]

Just because I know a lot of technical this and that doesn't mean the tobacco's any good...I might like inhaling battery acid, for all you know.

The temperature for other brands probably is lower 220F or 300F or so because of the high water content.

Your word aside, most of what I've read about Tangiers here and elsewhere has been good. I wanted to try it long before speaking with you.

[EternalSoil]

I thought Tangiers was lower than others... hmmm, well mine smokes good with dome side of 3k QL down and great with the bowl side down, so i'm good.

and i still cant figure out the quote thing. so Sonthert this it directed towards your last post Edited June 18, 2007 by EternalSoil

[Sonthert]

Tangiers contains less water than other brands.

Water takes more energy to heat up than most other materials.

High Water content tobaccos will take more heat to maintain their temperature (and their temperature response curves will be flatter...whatever that means).

Low water content tobaccos will use less heat to heat up.


The boiling point of a liquid acts to moderate the temperature of a system.

A liquid can't exceed the boiling point of the liquid, in general, until it becomes a gas.

A low water content tobacco (which likely contains the water connected to other compounds) will have an effective boiling point higher than a high water content tobacco (since water boils at a lower temperature than glycerine)

Therefore, Tangiers smokes at a higher temperature, but it needs less charcoal to do so.

[SmokeMojo]

I'm not positive on temperatures, but I do remember reading that those who have tested hookah and shisha for their health effects burned it at around 650F which they said is almost double what most shisha is burned at, so must studies done on hookah smoke are unrealistic. I also remember reading that if it's burning over 600F it's a lot less healthy because it starts to release more carcinogenic material, hence the reason why all these studies are saying that it is so unhealthy. In reality, most shisha burns at half the temperature as the studies, so I would say sonthert is right with 300F. I'm not TOO familiar with Tangiers, but I do know that shisha with less water content burns at a much higher temperature so it would make sense if Tangiers burned hotter.

This is strictly based on what I've read, but it seems pretty consistent between all the texts. Edited June 21, 2007 by SmokeMojo