Tangiers Hole Placement

[mrmonk7663]

Hello everyone. I'm smoking some Tangiers Watermelon right now. While it is smoking alright, I know its not as good as it can be. I am using Canary Golden coals. I took one stick, broke it into 4, and placed them in a cross on the edge of the bowl. I have 2 rings of holes, and I poked one hole in the middle. Do I need this hole in the middle, is it suppossed to be there or no? I am using regular warm water, no Ice, as I read was recomended. Also, the tobacco isn't touching the foil, which is also recomended. Basically, do I keep the hole in the middle or no? Thanks!!

Michael

I'm not getting much watermelon flavor at all, but i'm light headed as hell. This stuff packs a punch, I just want to get the flavor out of it. I have searched but i'm still a bit lost. Edited July 1, 2007 by mrmonk7663

[mrmonk7663]

Alright, I had to cut the session short. I started feeling sick. The tobacco was very strong and tasted like, well, tobacco, and it wasn't jiving with my stomach and what I ate. Hopefully you guys can point me on the right track. I'll try again tomorrow after I get some help from here. If someone could give me the "Official" smoking technique of Tangier's I'd appreciate it. Everything from the water temperature, to hole placement, how many holes, and how many Golden Canary Coals to use. Also, exactly how to pack the bowl. I've read so many different ways, I just want the "official" way if there is one so I can get this working right and enjoy it. I've seen lots of people rave about the Watermelon Flavor. I just haven't gotten any flavor out of it yet. Thanks!!!

[Calcartman]

Are you using the funnel bowl? if not, you need holes evenly all around the entired bowl (not just edges). If you are it sounds like you have plenty.
Try packing it a little bit fuller next time, as most of the time with tangiers people dont pack enough in (could be your problem too?).
Also, if its a small funnel bowl 4 coals is probably too much, cause i use 4 on my medium. If the smoke was thick but flavorless, try a coal less next time, you may be burning it.

[Sonthert]

He is using a phunnel bowl and the right number of coals...I was suggesting his bowl was underpacked.

Or...mashed down? Left too big a gap between the top of the bowl and the tobacco? Edited July 1, 2007 by Sonthert

[mrmonk7663]

i think it might have been underpacked. Actuallly, I know it was. Also, i broke the tobacco up a bit, like I do with other shisha. I'll try again tonight and not do that. I just need clarification about holes over the funnel opening. I am using a Medium Funnel. Do I put many holes over the funnel opening or 1 hole or none? And this is in addition to the two rings of holes around the bowl yes? Thanks!!!

[aldonb1]

personally i'd say it was under packed combined with too few holes. Tangiers i like to really load up with holes. just me.

[Sonthert]

Center hole is controversial. I like lots of holes over the phunnel...makes the smoke more airy. Some people like few or none (makes the smoke thicker...like as in a choking manner...develops bigger buzz, too.)

[jaker29902]

not sure about tangiers but cold water/ice usually condesces smoke for me and gives me more flavor Edited July 1, 2007 by jaker29902

[mrmonk7663]

Alright, well I smoked another bowl. This time the flavor was alot better, but I can definitely not take an inhallation like I can with normal tobacco. If I try it will choke me. Not like a harsh choke, just like I can't inhale it very much. I don't know if that makes sense. The smoke was decent, kind of thick, but since I couldn't take a deep draw, it didn't reach its potential I don't think. Is it suppossed to have an extremly strong tobacco flavor? While I can taste the watermelon the flavor of tobacco seems to overpower the watermelon by far.

Thanks.

PS Ice in my other shisha works great for me too, but evidently it is different for the Tangiers, that is what I was told anyway.

[Calcartman]

Alright, well I smoked another bowl. This time the flavor was alot better, but I can definitely not take an inhallation like I can with normal tobacco. If I try it will choke me. Not like a harsh choke, just like I can't inhale it very much. I don't know if that makes sense. The smoke was decent, kind of thick, but since I couldn't take a deep draw, it didn't reach its potential I don't think. Is it suppossed to have an extremly strong tobacco flavor? While I can taste the watermelon the flavor of tobacco seems to overpower the watermelon by far.

Thanks.

PS Ice in my other shisha works great for me too, but evidently it is different for the Tangiers, that is what I was told anyway.

Ice works fine for tangiers too, but one warning:
The tickle in the back of your throat, is nicotine. Tangiers has lots of it.
Cold water absorbs less nicotine than warm water.
Thus it may be cooler smoke, but that tickle will only be worse.

As for flavor, you may try acclimating it, especially if the weather there is not like it is in san diego.

Tangiers is definitely a bit stronger than most people are used too.

[mrmonk7663]

I'm gonna give it one more go, but not today. I set up my hookah with the funnel and mod a bit ago with regular shisha just to make sure I could take deep draws lol, and I could just fine. The Tangiers is just so so different. As far as acclimating I did that for a few hours. Thanks!!

[Sonthert]

Its just packing it...keep the clump of tobacco intact. Also, make sure you stir the tobacco and juice real well first.