Romman Tobacco

[deltr]

is it shisha or regular tobacco? The Nicotine concentration is ten times as much as Al Fakhar so it makes me wonder...

[joseph*]

Well, like all shisha it is tobacco, but rommans is regular shisha. Waha, rommans, and nakhla all have the higher nicotine level.

[anathema]

Romman tobacco is shisha, or moassel, or "hookah tobacco" as some vendors categorize it. It's just that Al Fakher is washed so um yeah, refer to one of Sonthert's posts.

[deltr]

Well, like all shisha it is tobacco, but rommans is regular shisha. Waha, rommans, and nakhla all have the higher nicotine level.

okay well whats the % of nicotine in cigarette tobacco?

[Calcartman]

Well, like all shisha it is tobacco, but rommans is regular shisha. Waha, rommans, and nakhla all have the higher nicotine level.

okay well whats the % of nicotine in cigarette tobacco?

1. All cigarettes are not equal. roughly 1.5-2.5 MG per cig of nicotine.
2. The % numbers on your shisha generally mean zilch. Most manufacturers do not measure.
3. Washed shisha packages say .05%, Unwashed say .5%. Unless of course, its washed and they claim its not.
4. Al Waha, Nakhla, and Layalina, as well as Pharoahs, King, and Afzal, all claim to be unwashed. I'm not sure about Romman, SB or Fumari, but my assumption is they are washed.
5. Layalina is washed. Thus it is in with the .05%
6. Tangiers and Fusion both claim .3%
7. Tangiers packs a stronger buzz than any other tobacco i've tried.
8. Why am i numbering these?

9. Don't take to heart the tobacco .5% printed on anything. It may or may not be washed. They all have nicotine.

[MechAnt]

CalCartman said it the best. However, strangely enough, I found Layalina's Blackberry to give a REALLY strong buzz. Other Layalina doesn't seem that strong. I like Pharaoh's. Nice mellow, relaxing buzz. Tangier's I have to really pace myself otherwise I feel like poo.

[Sonthert]

Some flavors from other countries may have nasty chemicals in that aren't legal in this country, but since tobacco isn't regulated, nobody's checking. I had another company's pineapple flavor that I think permanently damaged my heart. Contained dipropylene glycol...perfumery chemical. Had one wicked buzz...made me feel like I was going to die. Edited July 2, 2007 by Sonthert

[joseph*]

Well, like all shisha it is tobacco, but rommans is regular shisha. Waha, rommans, and nakhla all have the higher nicotine level.

okay well whats the % of nicotine in cigarette tobacco?

1. All cigarettes are not equal. roughly 1.5-2.5 MG per cig of nicotine.
2. The % numbers on your shisha generally mean zilch. Most manufacturers do not measure.
3. Washed shisha packages say .05%, Unwashed say .5%. Unless of course, its washed and they claim its not.
4. Al Waha, Nakhla, and Layalina, as well as Pharoahs, King, and Afzal, all claim to be unwashed. I'm not sure about Romman, SB or Fumari, but my assumption is they are washed.
5. Layalina is washed. Thus it is in with the .05%
6. Tangiers and Fusion both claim .3%
7. Tangiers packs a stronger buzz than any other tobacco i've tried.
8. Why am i numbering these?

9. Don't take to heart the tobacco .5% printed on anything. It may or may not be washed. They all have nicotine.

I have always wondered why shisha is always labled as % nicotine. Also, has anyone noticed the 0% tar labels they have? They must mean 0% tar before it is smoked, which is bullshit and misleading.

[Sonthert]

Tar is meaningless in hookah tobacco...glycerine is tar, in the literal sense. Since it doesn't burn, it means little. They mean tar, like as in road tar.

[deltr]

Tar is meaningless in hookah tobacco...glycerine is tar, in the literal sense. Since it doesn't burn, it means little. They mean tar, like as in road tar.

Do you mean it means little as in we shouldn't worry about it or it means little cause carcinogens such as tar are omnipresent in tobacco products?

[Calcartman]

Tar is meaningless in hookah tobacco...glycerine is tar, in the literal sense. Since it doesn't burn, it means little. They mean tar, like as in road tar.

Do you mean it means little as in we shouldn't worry about it or it means little cause carcinogens such as tar are omnipresent in tobacco products?

It means little as in what they write on the side of the tub has no bearing on the amount of tar actually produced by smoking.

[mgcsinc]

Tar is meaningless in hookah tobacco...glycerine is tar, in the literal sense. Since it doesn't burn, it means little. They mean tar, like as in road tar.

Do you mean it means little as in we shouldn't worry about it or it means little cause carcinogens such as tar are omnipresent in tobacco products?

It means little as in what they write on the side of the tub has no bearing on the amount of tar actually produced by smoking.

Yup. It is totally incapable of being compared to what's written on cigarette packages.

Incidentally, I'm curious: what was your original impression of the difference between shisha and tobacco? I'm not trying to be mean or anything - just curious.

[ghostofdavid]

Some flavors from other countries may have nasty chemicals in that aren't legal in this country, but since tobacco isn't regulated, nobody's checking. I had another company's pineapple flavor that I think permanently damaged my heart. Contained dipropylene glycol...perfumery chemical. Had one wicked buzz...made me feel like I was going to die.

Who made this?

[Sonthert]

Glycerine itself has little potential as a carcinogen since it only has carbon, hydrogen and oxygen atoms in it. Tar is the non-tobacco components...hookah tobacco doesn't burn (at least very little), tar presents concern because they burn and turn into nasty stuff...if it doesn't burn...

[Ocrap]

Some flavors from other countries may have nasty chemicals in that aren't legal in this country, but since tobacco isn't regulated, nobody's checking. I had another company's pineapple flavor that I think permanently damaged my heart. Contained dipropylene glycol...perfumery chemical. Had one wicked buzz...made me feel like I was going to die.

Does this mean that these illegal chemicals won't be present in Starbuzz and Tangiers?

[deltr]

Tar is meaningless in hookah tobacco...glycerine is tar, in the literal sense. Since it doesn't burn, it means little. They mean tar, like as in road tar.

Do you mean it means little as in we shouldn't worry about it or it means little cause carcinogens such as tar are omnipresent in tobacco products?

It means little as in what they write on the side of the tub has no bearing on the amount of tar actually produced by smoking.

Yup. It is totally incapable of being compared to what's written on cigarette packages.

Incidentally, I'm curious: what was your original impression of the difference between shisha and tobacco? I'm not trying to be mean or anything - just curious.

I was just always told that shisha was the "mildest form of tobacco".

[Sonthert]

Some flavors from other countries may have nasty chemicals in that aren't legal in this country, but since tobacco isn't regulated, nobody's checking. I had another company's pineapple flavor that I think permanently damaged my heart. Contained dipropylene glycol...perfumery chemical. Had one wicked buzz...made me feel like I was going to die.

Does this mean that these illegal chemicals won't be present in Starbuzz and Tangiers?

Those chemicals aren't technically illegal, just not permitted for use in food items or the like, they aren't recommended to be inhaled into your lungs so they can get into your bloodstream. Tobacco manufacturing is remarkably unregulated. If this were a food product instead of a tobacco product, the FDA would likely intervene. I guess my first quote wasn't clear...the way it was worded made it sound inaccurate.

Tangiers: Won't be present. Everything added to our tobacco is listed by the FDA as "safe". The list is called GRAS (Generally Recognized As Safe).
Starbuzz: I couldn't answer that question. I would assume so, but I can't answer for them. They could get flavorings from other countries that aren't GRAS...its unlikely.

Technically, they shouldn't, be present in ANY tobacco product if the manufacturer is knowledgeable and responsible. Whether there is a law or not doesn't relieve us, the manufacturers of making a product that is in a primary sense, not endangering people's health. Long-term helath effects may be a different story altogether. Like that Chinese toothpaste with anti-freeze in (Ethylene glycol) they've been bouncing back and forth on the news for the last two weeks. Any sensible, responsible, knowledgeable manufacturer knows anti-freeze is dangerous...its deadly. To make a product made for use by people that, although not expressly intended for consumption, it would be reasonable to assume that accidental consumption or misuse could result in someone ingesting a poison. The amount of money they saved by using ethylene glycol instead of propylene glycol (which is eminently safe for food use) is so trivial, it shows either incredibly stupid people or people that have no regard for other human lives. In a like sense, using dipropylene glycol (its a dehydrated version of propylene glycol) in a tobacco product is stupid and irresponsible. In looking at chemical analyses of tobaccos from other manufacturers (some names that you're probably familiar with)...I was...well, I wanted to make sure Tangiers was made as well as possible from a chemical safety standpoint.