Hookah Lover Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Hello everyone,I was wondering if I could use normal black coal chunks on my new hookah.. We didn't order any of the self-lighting ones from the site, but we can't use anything but normal coals.Will they work if I heat them up on the stove for a while? I'm just a little concerned because I'm used to using the self-lighting coals.Cheers for any help, I'd really appreciate it.-Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahwahoo2006 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 If you mean like charcoal briquettes for a BBQ please DO NOT do this. You will more than likely kill yourself with carbon monoxide. If you mean natural hookah coals, just heat them on a stove or with a blowtorch until they are red and glowing. Could you specify what kind of coals you are talking about a bit more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*HOT&SMOKING* Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 QUOTE (ahwahoo2006 @ Jul 4 2007, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>If you mean like charcoal briquettes for a BBQ please DO NOT do this. You will more than likely kill yourself with carbon monoxide. If you mean natural hookah coals, just heat them on a stove or with a blowtorch until they are red and glowing. Could you specify what kind of coals you are talking about a bit more?If you are using briquettes then I second the "DO NOT USE THEM AT ALL " normal briquettes have chemicles added to them when they are compressed and like ahwahoo2006 said carbon monoxide also .....the self lighting coals are specifically made for hookah smoking as they do not have those extra added chemicles.....-H&S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookah Lover Posted July 4, 2007 Author Share Posted July 4, 2007 QUOTE (*HOT&SMOKING* @ Jul 4 2007, 08:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (ahwahoo2006 @ Jul 4 2007, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>If you mean like charcoal briquettes for a BBQ please DO NOT do this. You will more than likely kill yourself with carbon monoxide. If you mean natural hookah coals, just heat them on a stove or with a blowtorch until they are red and glowing. Could you specify what kind of coals you are talking about a bit more?If you are using briquettes then I second the "DO NOT USE THEM AT ALL " normal briquettes have chemicles added to them when they are compressed and like ahwahoo2006 said carbon monoxide also .....the self lighting coals are specifically made for hookah smoking as they do not have those extra added chemicles.....-H&SCheers for both of your comments.I'm talking about natural coals.. Just normal, natural, non-chemical coals.. Just normal un-modified coals so-to-speak.Thanks for warning me about the BBQ ones as I had no idea they were dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*HOT&SMOKING* Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 They should be fine if they are the ones that you can buy/order instead of quick lite coals.....usually they just take longer to lite......-H&S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allia22 Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 I saw some coals at Walmart advertised as All Natural! No added chemicals! Then I thought this lifetime supply of coals had to be too good to be true, so I checked the bag and sure enough, there were carbon monoxide warnings plastered all over the thing. Be careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 QUOTE (Allia22 @ Jul 4 2007, 08:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I saw some coals at Walmart advertised as All Natural! No added chemicals! Then I thought this lifetime supply of coals had to be too good to be true, so I checked the bag and sure enough, there were carbon monoxide warnings plastered all over the thing. Be careful.All coal produces some carbon monoxide. I'm of the opinion that Japanese coals (not those crappy Easy Lites!...those are Chinese style) produce less. Yes, it produces carbon monoxide...its a warning...you are about to inhale it. That doesn't change the fact that people for centuries have pretty much used the same thing for smoking hookahs and they didn;t all die...otherwise hookah smoking would have died out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allia22 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Awright then, I'm off to Walmart! *waves* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinamon Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 why doesnt someone make a heater like a stove element that you can put on top of the bowl to heat the shisha?that way we dont have to use coals and inhale all the evil shit that goes along with a burning coal.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltr Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 QUOTE (chinamon @ Jul 4 2007, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>why doesnt someone make a heater like a stove element that you can put on top of the bowl to heat the shisha?that way we dont have to use coals and inhale all the evil shit that goes along with a burning coal....I, too, have wondered this, and would be very interested in acquiring something of the nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechAnt Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 QUOTE (Sonthert @ Jul 4 2007, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Allia22 @ Jul 4 2007, 08:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I saw some coals at Walmart advertised as All Natural! No added chemicals! Then I thought this lifetime supply of coals had to be too good to be true, so I checked the bag and sure enough, there were carbon monoxide warnings plastered all over the thing. Be careful. All coal produces some carbon monoxide. I'm of the opinion that Japanese coals (not those crappy Easy Lites!...those are Chinese style) produce less. Yes, it produces carbon monoxide...its a warning...you are about to inhale it. That doesn't change the fact that people for centuries have pretty much used the same thing for smoking hookahs and they didn;t all die...otherwise hookah smoking would have died out.Why are the chinese easy lites horrible? I use them like crazy. No smell, no taste. I'm just wondering cause I've ever actually used the Canary japs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 QUOTE (deltr @ Jul 4 2007, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (chinamon @ Jul 4 2007, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>why doesnt someone make a heater like a stove element that you can put on top of the bowl to heat the shisha?that way we dont have to use coals and inhale all the evil shit that goes along with a burning coal....I, too, have wondered this, and would be very interested in acquiring something of the nature. I saw a product that was just that, a little heater that you put on top of your bowl. Saw it on hookah-shisha a year or two ago. From what I heard, it was pretty hard to fine-tune the heat level and you would end up burning your shisha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinamon Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 QUOTE (Big Boss @ Jul 5 2007, 01:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (deltr @ Jul 4 2007, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (chinamon @ Jul 4 2007, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>why doesnt someone make a heater like a stove element that you can put on top of the bowl to heat the shisha?that way we dont have to use coals and inhale all the evil shit that goes along with a burning coal....I, too, have wondered this, and would be very interested in acquiring something of the nature. I saw a product that was just that, a little heater that you put on top of your bowl. Saw it on hookah-shisha a year or two ago. From what I heard, it was pretty hard to fine-tune the heat level and you would end up burning your shisha.i would imagine that it would be easier to fine tune a device like this if it had a potentiometer to let you adjust the temperature range.since each coal burns at a set tempterature, you either have on (add a coal) or off (remove a coal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobocans Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Ive always wanted to try one of those heaters too. I wish I had bought one the last time I saw it (I think it was $50 or something). I know they usually have the potentiometer on there, so it should be just a few tries and good to go.I know in Saudi Arabia the hookah cafes can ONLY use those heaters, so obviously they've figured it out. Next time anyone is in the Gulf, you should by a few dozen heaters and sell them here or on Ebay, I bet you could make some good cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookah Lover Posted July 5, 2007 Author Share Posted July 5, 2007 Thanks for the information, guys, it's really good to know.Thankfully, (Saves us the three-day shipping wait) my roommate found some fantastic incense burner coals he got in the middle east (Oman to be exact) last summer. He has a couple boxes.. The coals seem to work very nicely!I've got some pictures of the coals here:And here's (because we're so damned proud of it ,) our brilliant new hookah! << 38 Inches!!Like it? I love it. A bit overkill to be honest, but it's a fantastic party hookah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*HOT&SMOKING* Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 (edited) QUOTE (Big Boss @ Jul 5 2007, 03:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (deltr @ Jul 4 2007, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (chinamon @ Jul 4 2007, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>why doesnt someone make a heater like a stove element that you can put on top of the bowl to heat the shisha?that way we dont have to use coals and inhale all the evil shit that goes along with a burning coal....I, too, have wondered this, and would be very interested in acquiring something of the nature. I saw a product that was just that, a little heater that you put on top of your bowl. Saw it on hookah-shisha a year or two ago. From what I heard, it was pretty hard to fine-tune the heat level and you would end up burning your shisha.Go to the link below...I found it in another topic....once you get to the website just scroll down a bit and you will find it....I have no clue where their company is though......Heater-H&S Edited July 5, 2007 by *HOT&SMOKING* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frands Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 (edited) I once used BBQ coal, and.... man, i almost fell asleep after the first inhale:D. Then i think i started hallucinating and couldn't listen what my friends said... I guess it isn't that healthy! DO NOT USE NORMAL CHOAL ! Edited July 5, 2007 by Frands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezie Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 QUOTE (Frands @ Jul 5 2007, 05:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I once used BBQ coal, and.... man, i almost fell asleep after the first inhale:D. Then i think i started hallucinating and couldn't listen what my friends said... I guess it isn't that healthy! DO NOT USE NORMAL CHOAL ! I think what frands meant was Do Not Use BBQ COAL and NOT NORMAL COAL. Normal coal work wonderful and if you use QL try to use Natural coal you'll taste the difference. I also use QL for the time management but once in a while if i'm not in a hurry to smoke i'll use Natural Coal. But natural coal as like crazy and be very careful with coal you don't want to burn things Peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Sure. Magic Coals are standard, great quality Japanese coals. There are other threads about heaters...I notice and my customers notice a lot less of the effects of carbon monoxide from Japanese coals than for other coals. I would guess they are producing about a tenth of the carbon monoxide of a standard coal. I'll take that improvement as sufficient. You're going to Walmart, Allia? Sweet. I know you know how hot I think redheads with glasses are. If you were about 40lbs. overweight, it would be perfect (Me likeey the chunky monkeys)...I'll meet you there. I'll be the guy in the plasticware department wearing the smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allia22 Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Cool, I have to pick up some more Gladware for my 50g packs anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symptom CY Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Looks like those Magic Coals can be ordered here: http://www.soukofoman.com/magiccoal.htmlMaybe I'll pick some up, though I don't know how much cheaper they are than the Canarys. Magic Coal - $10 for 60 piecesGolden Canary - $15 for 96 pieces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 QUOTE (Allia22 @ Jul 5 2007, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Cool, I have to pick up some more Gladware for my 50g packs anyway See, now that's not cool. I waited there for two hours. I drive all the way out to WI and you ditch me. Not cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinamon Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 QUOTE (symptom CY @ Jul 5 2007, 10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Looks like those Magic Coals can be ordered here: http://www.soukofoman.com/magiccoal.htmlMaybe I'll pick some up, though I don't know how much cheaper they are than the Canarys. Magic Coal - $10 for 60 piecesGolden Canary - $15 for 96 piecesaccording to the prices that you just listed, the magic coals cost more than golden canary but not by much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Its pretty standard for Magic Coals to be slightly more expensive than Canaries. Fumari distributes all the Magic Coal I've seen for awhile. I think it's been better than 7 years since I saw an independently distributed box of Magic Coals. Magic Coals also (in times gone by) came in 3 pieces per bar, rather than four. That picture is the first time I've seen 3 pieces/bar in at least 8 years. I don't know what to make out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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