mrmonk7663 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Hello. What is the silver coating on the Golden Canary Japanese Coals? What does it do, what's the purpose of it, and is it harmful? thanks!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Silver stuff!No idea!No idea!No!JD - Helpfull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 not sure but id venture to say its probably harmful, as inhaling anything from the coals is worse than not doing so...those are by far the best charcoals i have ever used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 QUOTE (Scoop @ Jul 6 2007, 08:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>not sure but id venture to say its probably harmful, as inhaling anything from the coals is worse than not doing so...those are by far the best charcoals i have ever used.Search a post from Sonthert (Tangiers) He confirms it was not harmfull.Was only a couple of days ago.JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 ill go with a tangiers answer with this "while no scientific tests exist it is hard to say whether or not they really are harmful, realistically its probably not the best thing ever" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmonk7663 Posted July 6, 2007 Author Share Posted July 6, 2007 I just wonder what it is. Maybe it protects the thing from absorbing moisture, as I see it contributing nothing to the lighting of the coal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symptom CY Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 It's samurai armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 (edited) Probably a paint. Edited July 7, 2007 by Scarecrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinamon Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 QUOTE (mrmonk7663 @ Jul 6 2007, 07:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hello. What is the silver coating on the Golden Canary Japanese Coals? What does it do, what's the purpose of it, and is it harmful? thanks!!!i remember a recent thread about the same topic so i went hunting for it...this is quoted from Sonthert...If they are real Japanese coals, its a mixture of Aluminum hydroxide, magnesium and potassium/sodium nitrate....all more or less harmless stuff. On cheap coals, its paint. Either way...those coals should be hot to the point that that crap is ready to flake off after its lit...before you put it on the bowl.source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmonk7663 Posted July 7, 2007 Author Share Posted July 7, 2007 Thanks Chinamon. Now we just need to know what it does. Maybe it could also help retain the heat in the coal. I wonder as the ends do not have it, and on the box it says to light the ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinamon Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 QUOTE (mrmonk7663 @ Jul 7 2007, 12:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Thanks Chinamon. Now we just need to know what it does. Maybe it could also help retain the heat in the coal. I wonder as the ends do not have it, and on the box it says to light the ends.i believe the main purpose is so you dont get your fingers dirty when you break up the coal.the coating flakes off once the coal is hot enough and then you put it on the bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmonk7663 Posted July 7, 2007 Author Share Posted July 7, 2007 I also noticed that the Canary Brand has a style of coals that look like the regular round coals, and they also have a box of coals, that comes with 60 pieces, and instead of 4 bricks in a piece it is 3. This box said they light easy, unlike the normal 96 piece box that says nothing like this. Finally, they have a 1kg bag of charcoal by Canary, I didn't see these coals but felt them and they felt like, well, pieces of charcoal through the bag. Anyone have any info on these other Canary coals I am mentioning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldonb1 Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 yeah i'm pretty sure that the silver stuff is just to prevent you from getting your hands dirty... which is quite nice =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalSoil Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Its thermite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Naw, thermite would show elevated levels of iron, too. Aluminum burns all by itself. Potassium nitrate will accelerate the process and raise the temp enough to burn charcoal. Magnesium probably adds a little heat, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmonk7663 Posted July 7, 2007 Author Share Posted July 7, 2007 Not too mention thermite would burn everything. In order to light true thermite, a magnesium strip is used as that is one of the few things that burns hot enough to ignite thermite. If you placed thermite on the hood of a car, it would burn through the hood, through the block, and continue a bit into the concrete. It's crazy stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 QUOTE (mrmonk7663 @ Jul 7 2007, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Not too mention thermite would burn everything. In order to light true thermite, a magnesium strip is used as that is one of the few things that burns hot enough to ignite thermite. If you placed thermite on the hood of a car, it would burn through the hood, through the block, and continue a bit into the concrete. It's crazy stuff.I don't think that's quite true...about the lighting part, but I'm not sure. A chemist told me it could be used as a coating (moderated by other things, of course) for a quick light charcoal. It must be not that hard to light, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 Sorry, in the nature of a test. The current material around Japanese coals is referred to as igniter cream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalSoil Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 i was kidding about the thermite guys. better quality thermite needs more heat, such as a magnesium strip to ignite it. I dont know which ingrediant you would need more of to make it light at a lower temperature though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechAnt Posted July 7, 2007 Share Posted July 7, 2007 There is a compound that all you need to do is mix it with water and it burns hot enough to ignite thermite. I'd rather not say what that compound is on this forum but its pretty cool. Plus, magnesium strips aren't all that difficult to light up. All you need is a butane torch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmonk7663 Posted July 8, 2007 Author Share Posted July 8, 2007 All this talk about thermite is brining up memories of days gone past haha. No further comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalSoil Posted July 8, 2007 Share Posted July 8, 2007 QUOTE (MechAnt @ Jul 7 2007, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>There is a compound that all you need to do is mix it with water and it burns hot enough to ignite thermite. I'd rather not say what that compound is on this forum but its pretty cool. Plus, magnesium strips aren't all that difficult to light up. All you need is a butane torch.PM me with this compound please =) Seriously, i would like to know what it is. No i'm not crazy. Ne felony's, misdemeners or anything. so, the compound if you plese sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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