What Is In Hookah Coals?

[ASUSEAN1]

Hi,

I am doing a report on the affect of hookah coals in a human body and need a chemist to tell me the formula. More specifically, the make up of three kings coals considering they all the most popular quick lights. I am willing to make a contract and pay for the work, just let me know!!

Thanks,

Sean

[thecult]

Hi,

I am doing a report on the affect of hookah coals in a human body and need a chemist to tell me the formula. More specifically, the make up of three kings coals considering they all the most popular quick lights. I am willing to make a contract and pay for the work, just let me know!!

Thanks,

Sean

not a chemist but it would just be carbon coal with a coating of gunpowder, lighter fuild or potassium nitrate (or something like that) for the quick lighting ccoating.

narutral coals are just that, just plain carbon (few impurities i would guess) Edited July 22, 2007 by thecult

[aldonb1]

yeah its just compressed carbon. (i believe)
and for 3 kings i believe it was a gunpowder and magnesium (very small amount) coating.

[Lakemonster]

My bet on the matter is that each of the preformed discs undergoes a short bath of a low concentrated Potassium Chlorate solution. Then dried.

[ASUSEAN1]

thanks for the help everyone!! but I am looking for more of an exact recipe, including amounts of each substance in the coal. I am willing to pay someone if they can do this.

[boomhauer]

time to call the company because im pretty sure that no one knows the question exactly. why would people have had to measure whats in the coals?

[Hannibal]

Rainbows and Unicorn hugs.






and Gunpowder.

[SammyDDS]

By law, in the united states. A company must disclose any and all ingredients in any product, but if your looking for the formula, goodluck, everyone has their own formula system for making their charcoal I imagine.

-Dr. Sammy DDS

[boomhauer]

i thought that was only in food just as every food package is to have the nutrition facts and the ingredients. you dont buy a doll house for your kids and it says on the box "ingredients: Wood, Plastic, Paper, Glue, Nails, Ground up baby fetuses"

[thecult]

i thought that was only in food just as every food package is to have the nutrition facts and the ingredients. you dont buy a doll house for your kids and it says on the box "ingredients: Wood, Plastic, Paper, Glue, Nails, Ground up baby fetuses"

its for food and medicines only (well in the uk anyway) Edited July 22, 2007 by thecult

[Calcartman]

What you need is a gas spectrometer.
My old auto shop had one in high school. You hook the tube up to a source (Exhaust pipes, or in your case a lit/burning coal), and it measures whats in the fumes.

Eric knows more im sure, but what your looking for is someone to do gas chromatography.

[thecult]

What you need is a gas spectrometer.
My old auto shop had one in high school. You hook the tube up to a source (Exhaust pipes, or in your case a lit/burning coal), and it measures whats in the fumes.

Eric knows more im sure, but what your looking for is someone to do gas chromatography.

pretty sure last time i check the average person cant afford a gas spectormeter or get the equipement to do gas chromatography (we are talking like £100,000).

Cheapest would be to do a mass spec which the machines only cost (£20,000 )

then again you could just walk into your nearest university and ask if you could use their Edited July 22, 2007 by thecult

[ghostofdavid]

No, all ingredients of the product do not have to be listed in food. It is why items say "Natural Flavors" and don't list their "secret ingredients."

They have to state any allergens.

Chemicals are a completely different ball game. Unsure about them.

[Calcartman]

What you need is a gas spectrometer.
My old auto shop had one in high school. You hook the tube up to a source (Exhaust pipes, or in your case a lit/burning coal), and it measures whats in the fumes.

Eric knows more im sure, but what your looking for is someone to do gas chromatography.

pretty sure last time i check the average person cant afford a gas spectormeter or get the equipement to do gas chromatography (we are talking like £100,000).

Cheapest would be to do a mass spec which the machines only cost (£20,000 )

then again you could just walk into your nearest university and ask if you could use their

I'm aware they're expensive, as i said he needs someone to do a gas chromatography.
Many labs will run the tests for a not insignificant amount of money, but if you need to do the research, you need to do the research.

[thecult]

What you need is a gas spectrometer.
My old auto shop had one in high school. You hook the tube up to a source (Exhaust pipes, or in your case a lit/burning coal), and it measures whats in the fumes.

Eric knows more im sure, but what your looking for is someone to do gas chromatography.

pretty sure last time i check the average person cant afford a gas spectormeter or get the equipement to do gas chromatography (we are talking like £100,000).

Cheapest would be to do a mass spec which the machines only cost (£20,000 )

then again you could just walk into your nearest university and ask if you could use their

I'm aware they're expensive, as i said he needs someone to do a gas chromatography.
Many labs will run the tests for a not insignificant amount of money, but if you need to do the research, you need to do the research.

i was aware that is what you ment

[ASUSEAN1]

well i have a couple grand for someone to help me out..

[thecult]

may i ask why you are doing this report?

[ASUSEAN1]

To test the affect of hookah coals on the human body and to determine alternate routes of a heat source.

[thecult]

To test the affect of hookah coals on the human body and to determine alternate routes of a heat source.

ahh cool, im sure there is that electronic heater thing , there is a thread about it somewhere

[*HOT&SMOKING*]

To test the affect of hookah coals on the human body and to determine alternate routes of a heat source.

ahh cool, im sure there is that electronic heater thing , there is a thread about it somewhere

But people say with that, it is hard to get the perfect heat.

-H&S

[MechAnt]

Charcoal = wood burned in a vacuum.

Quicklites and Japs (some coals advertised as natural) = compressed and extruded carbon from burned wood. For quicklites, add some gunpowder for a covering and for Japs add either silver paint (chinese knockoffs) or some special aluminum something something mix (Sonthert wrote something about that in another thread and listed everything in it. Look it up)

As for effect on human body, carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide inhalation. That's as much help as I can give ya. Hope SOMETHING helped.

[Scoop]

i think eric told me most of them have sulphur, its an accelerant

[Allia22]

For what it's worth, the gunpowder isn't limited to just a coating, it's mixed in with the coal. That's why when you break it in half and light it, the sparking happens even on the broken edges.

[thecult]

For what it's worth, the gunpowder isn't limited to just a coating, it's mixed in with the coal. That's why when you break it in half and light it, the sparking happens even on the broken edges.

good point, otherwise the charcoal would just light on the outside

[azcoyote]

You won't need a mass spectrometer to do a reverse engineering of any quicklights. I don't believe there is any sulphur - you would smell it when it lit off. So we are taliking about Charcoal powder, KNO3, and a binder. To double check for the presence of sulphur, weigh and crush several quicklites and place in a flask. Add 95 percent ethanol. If elemental sulphur is present, it will leach out and color the solution yellow. Filter out the carbon and wash same with ethanol using a buchner funnel. Dry out charcoal. Since KNO3 is not soluable in ethanol, it will remain attached to the carbon. Weigh the product. Subtract from the beginning weight. The difference is the weight of the sulphur.

Black powder is by weight:

C = 75%

KNO3= 15%

S= 10%

For instant lights I'd start by replacing the sulphur with all purpose flour. Mix all dry ingredients completely for several minutes. Slowly drizzle water into bowl while mixing until a a dough consistency is reached. Pack mixture into a 1" pvc pipe with a wooden dowel. Pound on dowel to compact dough. Extrude the contents of the pipe onto a sheet of newspaper and slice into 3/4" rounds. When completely dry, these should work as quicklights.

Good luck. You can pay me $100 for all the money I just saved ya. j/k:P