SafeSearchOff Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 So I was thinking about extending my life expectancy a little, er, try not to shorten it TOO much. I know water is a filter, but what about further filtration? There are already external filters on the market, I know, but I was thinking about home-brewing my own. so, a few basic questions before I attempt this.a) anyone know if filtering like this would cut down on flavor? if so, screw it, I'll take the shorter lifeb ) good amterials for filtering? I was thinking of using cotton balls or something breathable like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReverieForest Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 I would immediately think that any extra filtration past the water, would reduce the flavor. Consider that smoke is unburnt particles infused with the shisha flavoring...the water catches any big particles and cools the rest. If you were to continue filtering smaller and smaller particles, you'd just be sucking cleaner air. Not to mention the harder pull. That being said, I would try the cotton balls for kicks and giggles. See if the taste is affected, and if the cotton is discolored at the end of the session, you know it's doing it's job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akkbar Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 x2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillZedKill Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 H-S has filters, i tried one and they dont cut out the flavor too much, maybe ask them about the design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeSearchOff Posted August 14, 2007 Author Share Posted August 14, 2007 they've got little capsules inside with like a vented filter, i've used one before.QUOTE That being said, I would try the cotton balls for kicks and giggles. See if the taste is affected, and if the cotton is discolored at the end of the session, you know it's doing it's job.lets get the dude who smoked a cotton ball up in here, see waht he has to say... oh wait, thats not pertinent... >.<Yeah I would imagine it cuts down on flavor =/okay, what about if it water filters twice? anyone think this would effect taste? it would definately affect draw, but in terms of taste? anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akkbar Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 2 water chambers shouldnt affect the draw or flavour much, IMHO. maybe even three. but four; that seems like a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeSearchOff Posted August 14, 2007 Author Share Posted August 14, 2007 i was thinking about just 1 extra.how much more filtration do you think would occur? signicifact - enough of an amount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leadpipecinch21 Posted August 14, 2007 Share Posted August 14, 2007 since i'm not sold that the water does all that much filtration(yes, i do know that it does filter some of the nicotine, as it's water soluble, and does catch some flakes and chunks of stuff, but any other chemicals, i'm not so sure), i'm not sold that a second chamber would do much. you could put a bunch of ice in it and get it colder, but apart from that? your call... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeSearchOff Posted August 14, 2007 Author Share Posted August 14, 2007 warmer water would be the trick, i believe. warmer water dissolves solute's more easily when solid, and i think i remember eric and mush saying that the nic and tar are solid matter in the gas itself,making it colder makes more gas soluble, but i think the nic is still in solid form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123blow Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 QUOTE (SafeSearchOff @ Aug 14 2007, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>warmer water would be the trick, i believe. warmer water dissolves solute's more easily when solid, and i think i remember eric and mush saying that the nic and tar are solidA matter in the gas itself,making it colder makes more gas soluble, but i think the nic is still in solid form.I think cold water is actually better. As I have been told by a couple of my dad's friends who happen to be doctors, they all say that the cooler the smoke is the less the harmful effects of the tobacco. Also, a longer hose helps cool down the smoke before it reaches you so the effects are slightly lessened. A long time ago when smoking shisha was a tradition in India people sometimes had really long hoses, which once again I am told, the reason for this was to cool the smoke... I really couldn't find anything scientfic to prove this but just going by what a couple of docs said... and I don't know if this has anything to do with this but if you put ice in your base the smoke is smoother... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallerthanu2399 Posted August 15, 2007 Share Posted August 15, 2007 well you could do a nicotene filter with carbon (essentially the same thing as a fish tank filter) or go buy a pack of filtered cigarrettes and rip out the filters to create your own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everydayshisha Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Cold water is good because its denserDenser Liquid can filter smaller particle. You do not need ot be a genious to think of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeSearchOff Posted August 18, 2007 Author Share Posted August 18, 2007 dude, no offence, but chem 101 iswarmer fluid - more solute. colder fluid - less solute.making water cold doesn't make it more dense until its frozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davab0202 Posted August 18, 2007 Share Posted August 18, 2007 QUOTE (SafeSearchOff @ Aug 17 2007, 09:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>dude, no offence, but chem 101 iswarmer fluid - more solute. colder fluid - less solute.making water cold doesn't make it more dense until its frozen.actually, water becomes more dense when cooled, until about 4 C, then it becomes less dense again. thats why water freezes from top to bottom and ice floats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicayotte Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 LOL whats next, vodka that you can enjoy without getting drunk/hangover lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davab0202 Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 QUOTE (nicayotte @ Aug 19 2007, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>LOL whats next, vodka that you can enjoy without getting drunk/hangover lolactually skyy vodka claims that its product is so pure it won't cause a hangover. but i strongly disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReverieForest Posted August 19, 2007 Share Posted August 19, 2007 QUOTE (davab0202 @ Aug 19 2007, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (nicayotte @ Aug 19 2007, 01:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>LOL whats next, vodka that you can enjoy without getting drunk/hangover lolactually skyy vodka claims that its product is so pure it won't cause a hangover. but i strongly disagree. Nothing like experience to claim otherwize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayrity Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 hey all, this is my first post here, i just joined, but in response to the question on this thread, in my opinion, adding another base to filter through would just be a waste of water, and is not an elegant solution (im an engineering major haha). I think the answer is to make your own hookah, which is what I did, and instead of having one big pipe coming down into the base, I had a capped pipe coming down and then drilled many small holes so I had the same easy pull, but now i had many smaller bubbles of smoke flowing through the water instead of the few big bubbles. that means more surface area of smoke is touching the water, and you gte more filtration, and colder smoke. if you dont wanna make your own whole hookah, maybe just make an adapter?great site everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicayotte Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 QUOTE (Ayrity @ Aug 23 2007, 08:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>hey all, this is my first post here, i just joined, but in response to the question on this thread, in my opinion, adding another base to filter through would just be a waste of water, and is not an elegant solution (im an engineering major haha). I think the answer is to make your own hookah, which is what I did, and instead of having one big pipe coming down into the base, I had a capped pipe coming down and then drilled many small holes so I had the same easy pull, but now i had many smaller bubbles of smoke flowing through the water instead of the few big bubbles. that means more surface area of smoke is touching the water, and you gte more filtration, and colder smoke. if you dont wanna make your own whole hookah, maybe just make an adapter?great site everyone!Welcome to the forums, as for your post i have done the same to my hand held hookah after not being able to add straws to it, this works pretty well, the easiest way i found was using a drill press to make these right into the stem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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