MechAnt Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 (edited) So it is well known that Tangiers sometimes undergoes humidity shock which can be corrected by acclimating the tobacco. In general, acclimating the tobacco can improve overall flavor and fullness of the smoke. However, my question is, do washed brands need to be acclimated as much as unwashed do?From my experiences, unwashed shisha tastes like poo when not acclimated and washed tastes pretty damn good straight from new packaging. When I smoked with styet, we cracked open AF strawberry and orange to acclimate it but went ahead and packed some strawberry. Instant great flavor. When I got some Pharaoh's (some pretty potent unwashed) Golden Guava, it tasted like poo until I acclimated it (still didnt taste great the whole batch because I switched smoking locations pretty often with it). Layalina, although advertised as unwashed, is widely known to be washed however it has tasted like poo to me until I acclimated it. So do washed brands need to be acclimated as much as unwashed to taste great? I'm heading to school in Santa Barbara, CA soon and I'm prolly gonna be smoking outside and I don't know how I'll acclimate it outside so I just want to skirt it if at all possible. (Weather there is 75-80 degrees F with 70-80% humidity year round)Let's make a list from common experiences. I'll update this list regularly.Unwashed:Tangiers - Acclimation necessary (3)Al Waha - Acclimation not necessary (2)Nakhla - Acclimation not necessary (2)Pharaoh's - Acclimation necessary (1)Mixed:El Basha - Acclimation not necessary (1)Washed:Al Fakher - Acclimation not necessary (3)Layalina - Needed (1) Not Needed (1)Al Amir - Acclimation not necessary (1)Havana - Acclimation not necessary (1)Starbuzz - Acclimation no necessary (1)Romman - Acclimation not necessary (2)Hookah Hookah - Acclimation not necessary (1)Don't know what category to put these under:Fusion -Fanatasia -King - Acclimation not necessary (1)Disclaimer: Of course everyone's experiences will vary especially with geographical location and taste preference.I'm located in Los Angeles, CA area where temps during summer are triple digits and dry heat. Edited September 4, 2007 by MechAnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anathema Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Al Fakher - NoAl Waha - NoStarbuzz - NoRomman - No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oggie505#2 Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 The only shisha I acclimate is Tangiers, it has something to do with the water content in other brands that they do not need acclimation like tangier's does. Something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racemyghost Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 do NOT acclimate Al Fakher!i did this to my mango last night and totally screwed up my session its almost like it "robs" the flavor.Nakhla - already dry as hell, not neededLayalina - never really bothered too, it tastes pretty good straight out the package Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechAnt Posted September 1, 2007 Author Share Posted September 1, 2007 Edited for additions and cleaned up the post so it is organized by washed, unwashed, and mixed.Keep them coming! This is helping me, and many others I'm sure, a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racemyghost Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Starbuzz should be under washed section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechAnt Posted September 1, 2007 Author Share Posted September 1, 2007 Oops, had a copy of it under washed and unwashed. Fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechAnt Posted September 3, 2007 Author Share Posted September 3, 2007 Come on, I know you guys know which brands need to be acclimated. Its already helping me a lot and more contributions will make it only better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbpredator Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 (edited) Hookah hookah - not needed also its washed... Edited September 3, 2007 by pbpredator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alademuerte Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Tangiers neededNakhla not neededRomman not neededAl-Waha not needed (And isnt Al-Waha a washed brand??) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rani Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 Okay, but I have a question within the same topic/thread. How LONG should shisha be acclimated? Those that are. Do the brands differ? Does the flavor make a difference? Some flavors would seem to be more delicate than others. Maybe there's a winter versus summer thing? The higher the humidity the shorter (or longer) the acclimation? And what's too long?'Rani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azcoyote Posted September 3, 2007 Share Posted September 3, 2007 QUOTE (Alademuerte @ Sep 3 2007, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Tangiers neededNakhla not neededRomman not neededAl-Waha not needed (And isnt Al-Waha a washed brand??)AW is NOT washed. I smoked some AW orange last night outside. No acclimation. High humidity - high air temperature- warmish water in jar -surprised I got huge clouds. I did need more heat than usual as coals do not burn as hot in high humidity. Had to ash frequently but it was an amazing session. Must have smoke for at least two hours off a large phunnel + syrian medium sized rig. I was ripped off my ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechAnt Posted September 4, 2007 Author Share Posted September 4, 2007 QUOTE (BohoWildChild @ Sep 3 2007, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Okay, but I have a question within the same topic/thread. How LONG should shisha be acclimated? Those that are. Do the brands differ? Does the flavor make a difference? Some flavors would seem to be more delicate than others. Maybe there's a winter versus summer thing? The higher the humidity the shorter (or longer) the acclimation? And what's too long?'RaniThose are all relevant questions but the commonly accepted acclimation time period is 3 hrs to however long you want to. I've heard reports of acclimation over more than a 24hr period. The flavors that are affected more than others is another topic. This is a general acclimation thread that is focused on whether brands need to be acclimated before their full potential is realized. I started this because in college I will be smoking outside but with no way to really acclimate outside so I'm trying to focus my smoking on brands that do not need acclimation at this time.Original topic updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDeadBodies Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 tho even acclimating for ten minutes outside is going to help a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted September 4, 2007 Share Posted September 4, 2007 QUOTE (BohoWildChild @ Sep 4 2007, 12:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Okay, but I have a question within the same topic/thread. How LONG should shisha be acclimated? Those that are. Do the brands differ? Does the flavor make a difference? Some flavors would seem to be more delicate than others. Maybe there's a winter versus summer thing? The higher the humidity the shorter (or longer) the acclimation? And what's too long?'RaniIts going to vary. Imagine a wet coat...bring it inside to let it dry out...how long will it take to dry out? Depends...how dry is it? Did you spread it out or throw into a lump? Etc. Tobacco's no different. I've talked to several people who have reported generally better results by acclimating several different brands, including Nahkla, Starbuzz, Fumari, Al Waha, Al Amir. Not to say that the other ones don't need it, just nobody told me about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NarghileNights Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 i am starting to feel like acclimation is an excuse if the shisha happens to not be very good.. a great idea invented so that if the shisha is bad, it can be blamed on an outside sourcen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamscott06 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 QUOTE (NarghileNights @ Oct 4 2007, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i am starting to feel like acclimation is an excuse if the shisha happens to not be very good.. a great idea invented so that if the shisha is bad, it can be blamed on an outside sourcenLol, you really think that? Wow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alademuerte Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 QUOTE (iamscott06 @ Oct 4 2007, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (NarghileNights @ Oct 4 2007, 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i am starting to feel like acclimation is an excuse if the shisha happens to not be very good.. a great idea invented so that if the shisha is bad, it can be blamed on an outside sourcenLol, you really think that? Wow... Yeah, seriously....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaled Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Wait what do you guys mean by acclimation of the shisha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staygone Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Acllimating shisha means to let the tobacco adjust to the environment, nicotine is highly sensitive to humidty. How do you acclimate? Take your shisha container, open it, and let it sit out.Tangiers is the only shisha I acclimate, anything else I have smoked smoked fine otherwise.QM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racemyghost Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 QUOTE (QuiltedMaple @ Oct 4 2007, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Acllimating shisha means to let the tobacco adjust to the environment, nicotine is highly sensitive to humidty. How do you acclimate? Take your shisha container, open it, and let it sit out.Tangiers is the only shisha I acclimate, anything else I have smoked smoked fine otherwise.QMdont forget to stir it every hour or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staygone Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 True, stir them juices well.-QM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NarghileNights Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 it still seems interesting to me that you have to acclimate the shisha for it to smoke well.. has anyone ever heard of acclimating any other type of tobacco product? I dont think so. Im still on the quest of smoking a good tangiers bowl.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdl Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 QUOTE (NarghileNights @ Oct 5 2007, 09:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>it still seems interesting to me that you have to acclimate the shisha for it to smoke well.. has anyone ever heard of acclimating any other type of tobacco product? I dont think so. Im still on the quest of smoking a good tangiers bowl.. Just because one product is different from others on the market and it has to be dealt with in a different manner, does not mean that excuses are being used via the term acclimation. Take fruits for example; some fruits such as apples can be bought at a grocery store and eaten that same day. Other fruits such as bananas will taste better when left to ripen. You don't call the ripening process an excuse for bad bananas do you? Tangiers isn't like all the other types of tobacco products and thus a different process is to be used to enjoy a good smoke. Stay on that quest! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Atkins Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 I wonder if these 'ripening tobaccos' use ethylene too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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