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Mya has decided they don't want to create a personal account and that they would rather not post if they are required to participate in forum discussions as a whole.

They will be missed. I guess we'll have to find out about new products like everyone else.

Still no word from the other Vendors contacted.
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QUOTE (mushrat @ Sep 23 2007, 12:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mya has decided they don't want to create a personal account and that they would rather not post if they are required to participate in forum discussions as a whole.

They will be missed. I guess we'll have to find out about new products like everyone else.

Still no word from the other Vendors contacted.


I'm going to get on my soapbox for one brief second. Hookah is an old and honored tradition but relatively new to the Western world. In addition, because of the current state of the world, it's looked on negatively in some circles simply because of it's middle eastern history. Despite some evidence to the contrary, the anti-smoking campaign insist hookah is as bad for you if not worse than cigarettes. And then there's the entire misconception about what hookah smokers are actually smoking. To sum it up we are working to fight a negative image and show the social and traditional aspects of what is really an ancient social artform. Not to mention being able to continue our own personal enjoyment.

I do not appreciate any vendor who would not assist in dispelling negative imagery of the very items they choose to sell. I do not appreciate that they would hope we would continue spending our money for their products and yet not be willing to personally support the very forum in which they advertise their products and offer their discounts. I collect hookahs, and although I've always openly said that I prefer traditional Egyptians and Syrians I would have eventually added a bohemian to my collection. But I can say honestly that based on their lack of support for the products themselves as well as the forum for the artform, I will not knowlingly be purchasing a single Mya item ever.

'Rani
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Rani, while i agree with the fact that we are fighting a negative image and any support we can get from the vendors and companies is appreciated, I wouldn't go so far as to hold a grudge against Mya because they dont post. Like you said, its a cultural thing, and in their culture there is no need to justify the hookah. ive seen their operation and they really dont have a whole lot of time to be surfing the forums, they run a business and thats what they choose to devote resources to.
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Well this will prolly get me a temp ban like always when i voice my opinion but here I go....


Why are we even blocking these vendors? I honestly only think they should be able to send PMS to people for advertising. Why not make a section of the forums where you can see vendors new products and see some of there new or special products they have released. In my opinion we are pushing away companies that give us discount codes and such, personally I enjoy not just mya but many other companies promotions. I could almost go as far as saying that a mistake was made here..... thats just my opinion, take it as you please
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Who the flip cares. If they don't want to make at least a LITTLE BIT of an effort and participate on the boards, f*ck 'em, I say. And how arrogant to expect just 100% free advertising without giving anything back. Not to mention that their last few bunches of hookahs on display were downright FUGGLY to say the least. No thanks, I think I'll pass on that ghettolicious "Pimp" hookah, thank you very much.
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To me it seems like a very odd decision for a business to make. They have their target demographic consolidated in one location that is hungry to see what products they have to offer, all for little if no investment, not to mention that the audience is composed of enthusiasts and other businesses that have purchasing power. Marketing agencies these days are realizing that consumers aren't like they used to be, we don't just buy what is available, we research a wide selection that the market has to offer and choose what suits our needs at the lowest price possible. This is the guerilla market that has emerged and forums are the manifest of this trend. I participate in a car forum as well and their vendors take advantage of this to the MAX, and they pay a fee for these outlets. That was a bit of a rant, but businesses need to learn how to adapt to the new environment if they want to stay competitive. Luckily, Mya makes some great products.

I have to say though, closing their account because of not posting seems somewhat arbitrary. Edited by BallentineChen
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QUOTE (camelflage @ Sep 23 2007, 11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rani, while i agree with the fact that we are fighting a negative image and any support we can get from the vendors and companies is appreciated, I wouldn't go so far as to hold a grudge against Mya because they dont post. Like you said, its a cultural thing, and in their culture there is no need to justify the hookah. ive seen their operation and they really dont have a whole lot of time to be surfing the forums, they run a business and thats what they choose to devote resources to.


It's not a "grudge" in the normal term on things. It is a decision to apply the power of the money I spend to those vendors who are willing to openly support what they sell. I wish them no ill will, or any lack of success. It is simply my opinion that you should support what you sell and thereby also increase your business. This is doubly true when what you sell has a lack of support elsewhere. I'm sorry but it does not seem to me a great strain on resources to check a forum or post an opinion once a week or so. Especially when regular membership is free and premium membership is nominal.

'Rani
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QUOTE (BohoWildChild @ Sep 23 2007, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (camelflage @ Sep 23 2007, 11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rani, while i agree with the fact that we are fighting a negative image and any support we can get from the vendors and companies is appreciated, I wouldn't go so far as to hold a grudge against Mya because they dont post. Like you said, its a cultural thing, and in their culture there is no need to justify the hookah. ive seen their operation and they really dont have a whole lot of time to be surfing the forums, they run a business and thats what they choose to devote resources to.


It's not a "grudge" in the normal term on things. It is a decision to apply the power of the money I spend to those vendors who are willing to openly support what they sell. I wish them no ill will, or any lack of success. It is simply my opinion that you should support what you sell and thereby also increase your business. This is doubly true when what you sell has a lack of support elsewhere. I'm sorry but it does not seem to me a great strain on resources to check a forum or post an opinion once a week or so. Especially when regular membership is free and premium membership is nominal.

'Rani


true, sorry if i misinterpreted your first post. having visited with those guys a few times i can understand why they chose to respond in the fashion they did.
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QUOTE (ZenSilk @ Sep 23 2007, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, who owns this place.. It's another vendor. But that vendor doesnt post here either, that i've ever seen.


yes, it is a vendor that owns this site but even he doesnt post about his products or push sales on the forum.
like rani said, taking 30 minutes a week to check the forums is not a lot to ask to continue to advertise on the forum. i think its a pretty good tradeoff actually.
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Well I think if they can't sacrifice a little time to get to know their target consumers. i.e. see what we are talking about, what we want, etc.

then it is their loss

for the record wasn't a big fan of the last few hookahs they came out with Edited by hookah hippie
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it sounds to me like MYA's business practices have slipped a bit. We have all noticed the lack in quality of their glass recently. No matter, they still make some of the best products ive seen and i will continue to support them. atleast until their practices degrade their credibility.
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