shishaluv Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 I've been smoking hookah for 4+ years now and have tried most of the major and minor shisha tobacco brands. So when I heard about Tangiers tobacco for the first time I was pumped when my friend just gave me his 3 new Tangiers flavors he ordered; Strawberry, Mixed Fruit and Watermelon. Of course I had to ask why he just gave me his new tobacco; to which he replied, it was way too harsh and he couldn't smoke it anymore. He hoped that I would like it more than he did, as did I, hey free is free.So I took it to a house party of around 12-15 people and set it everything up perfectly. And I always take 3 different types of charcoal to ensure a good smoke; Three Kings (44mm), Japanese Silver and all natural coal and of course I use good tin-foil. Now after 4+ years I've learned most of the tricks to ensure a great smoke (so "yes" we tried everything), but nothing I or any other hookah smokers at the party tried could make the tobacco less harsh. It tasted fine for the first 2-3 minutes then it just got harsher and harsher to the point that no one at the party; including myself, would smoke it. Everytime someone would give it another try we would hear them coughing. We tried every type of coal we had, broke up the coal, used new tin-foil, added more holes, less holes, more tobacco, less tobacco and nothing worked.So as my friend did for me I have now done for my friend and gave the Tangiers away. I called him the other day and asked him for his "review" and sure enough it was the same, "dude this stuff tastes great for 5 minutes and then damn it gets harsh on the throat". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 This happened with my friends tobacco. We kept taking it in (I know stupid) but after a few inhales the flavour came back with even more smoke. But seeing as you said it went to the point where no one could have it meant that it must have been pretty bad.Could it be that you didn't acclimate it? Or not acclimate it for a longer period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Well,I was chatting to Mr Mushrat earlier today.. And he was telling me that he uses 1 3King coalon a funnel bowl - broken into a about 5 Different pieces spread around.Tangiers requires very little heat...And I trust Brother Mushrat - His Hookah Lounge can't sell enough of it.JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPR234 Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 You gotta pack tangiers a little differently than most other shishas... first of all, don't fluff it up, just stir up the juices and plop it straight into the bowl. Also, you should pack a little more shisha than you would normally, just make it as dense as you can while still being able to breathe smoothly through the bottom of the bowl. Next, use a little less heat, and you should be golden. Also, I dont know if you guys did this or not, but acclimate the shisha for a few hours before smoking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelflage Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 eddie and i just smoked the new tangiers flavor in a funnel for a couple hours. thick smoke, good flavor, not harsh at all. not sure why it would do so much better for us and be rough for you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobocans Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Heat management is definitely the toughest thing with tangiers. You can get it to smoke anywhere with any coal, but you just have to know how to manage the heat (which is different than most tobaccos).I had Kashmere Peach going on a windy roof top with a half 40mm, which was just about right for that environment (lots of wind, hot coal). The only prob, is that the coal would burn out pretty fast, and we just had to keep on loading up a half coal every 15-20min. Everyone loved the stuff. A rival group of hookah smokers had Al-Waha going, and we pretty much took over their group as soon as they smelled the Kashmere Peach.It just takes some getting use to. Try it at home, adding a few coal junks, let the bowl heat up, and just get use to how it works. Then try it in more demanding settings, like parties or outside, to further your mastery. It is worth the learning curve, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipartitegraph Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 At our hookah bar (and by 'our' I mean Mushrat's), we go through way more Tangiers that you'd think for a casual crowd. We're often limited by the number of funnel bowels we have, and need to direct people to the other flavors. Kashmir Peach is our house favorite, so there's definitely nothing inherently wrong with the shisha. The best things I can suggest are the following:Let to tobacco air out for a good 6-8 hours (set it out the morning before the party). Smoke it in a Tangiers funnel bowl packed hard into the doughtnut for the shisha and keep the airway clear of crumbs and tendrils of shisha. Poke two concentric rings of holes in your foil, so the majority of the heat is pulled over the shisha.Try to keep a relatively low amount of coal (all natural of coures) spread around the outer edge of the bowl, over the holes. Rotate the coals around the outside to prevent hot-spots.Hope this is helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 I think the largest problem is not putting enough tobacco in the bowl. Whenever I have somebody with that problem come in, and I show them what I mean by "more" they're always like: "OH...that much."The second is too much charcoal, but most people can judge too much coal...If you don't put enough tobacco in the bowl, it can build up enough heat to boil everything and the nicotine just comes off, although there are some nutty guys that I know love to smoke the Tangiers intentionally harsh just that way. PM me, Shishaluv, if you want and I can help you more with it. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 QUOTE (Johnny_D @ Sep 30 2007, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Well,I was chatting to Mr Mushrat earlier today.. And he was telling me that he uses 1 3King coalon a funnel bowl - broken into a about 5 Different pieces spread around.Tangiers requires very little heat...And I trust Brother Mushrat - His Hookah Lounge can't sell enough of it.JDActually, I was saying IF you used quicklites thats what do do, worked for one of my customers. I NEVER use quicklites in the bar or for my personal smoking.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookah hippie Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Less heat more tobacco is the way to go.Stir like crazy pack tight and to the rim.Put not too much heat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelflage Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 strangely enough, i use more heat with tangiers in a funnel than i do with any other tobacco. like i will throw about 3 pieces of charcoal across as many of the holes as i can. maybe i live in opposite world?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeSearchOff Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 (edited) QUOTE (camelflage @ Sep 30 2007, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>strangely enough, i use more heat with tangiers in a funnel than i do with any other tobacco. like i will throw about 3 pieces of charcoal across as many of the holes as i can. maybe i live in opposite world??maybe you live in we pump morphine into our throats so we don't feel the holes being ripped into our throats world.edited for spelling Edited October 1, 2007 by SafeSearchOff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelflage Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 QUOTE (SafeSearchOff @ Sep 30 2007, 11:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (camelflage @ Sep 30 2007, 11:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>strangely enough, i use more heat with tangiers in a funnel than i do with any other tobacco. like i will throw about 3 pieces of charcoal across as many of the holes as i can. maybe i live in opposite world??maybe you line in we pump morphine into our throats so we don't feel the holes being ripped into our throats world.haha, if spoon hadn't also been smoking it i would say you might be right. but he only has stage 3 lungs so it couldnt have been too hot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 QUOTE (mushrat @ Sep 30 2007, 10:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Actually, I was saying IF you used quicklites thats what do do, worked for one of my customers. I NEVER use quicklites in the bar or for my personal smoking.... Yer,I picked up on that Brother Mushrat...but I was keeping it simple for the sake of clarity JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NarghileNights Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 we've also had this problem with tangiers, every smoke seems to be great and then turns harsh very quickly. using a mod bowl and a 30mm golden broken in two is usually what we attempt and we cannot get it to work. will have to try the funnel bowl... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halon2 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 QUOTE (NarghileNights @ Oct 1 2007, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>we've also had this problem with tangiers, every smoke seems to be great and then turns harsh very quickly. using a mod bowl and a 30mm golden broken in two is usually what we attempt and we cannot get it to work. will have to try the funnel bowl...You're letting the shisha sit out for a day or so before smoking it, right? I'm over in Greeley and I definitely had extremely bad experiences with Tangiers until he told me to let it sit out for 24 hours. And the bowl has to be REALLY full of tobacco! Like leap of faith, 'that will never work!' kind of full. Try breaking the coal into 3 pieces, too. TYLER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lp640man Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 What about a Video... pleaseeee u seem knowlegable and seems like you have some respect and pull on here.... can you or somone do a video on how to pack usng a phunnel and normal heat managemnt using golden coals...i still have coco and orange soda an determend to get this to work...QUOTE (Sonthert @ Sep 30 2007, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think the largest problem is not putting enough tobacco in the bowl. Whenever I have somebody with that problem come in, and I show them what I mean by "more" they're always like: "OH...that much."The second is too much charcoal, but most people can judge too much coal...If you don't put enough tobacco in the bowl, it can build up enough heat to boil everything and the nicotine just comes off, although there are some nutty guys that I know love to smoke the Tangiers intentionally harsh just that way. PM me, Shishaluv, if you want and I can help you more with it. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASUSEAN1 Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 (edited) QUOTE (lp640man @ Oct 3 2007, 03:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What about a Video... pleaseeee u seem knowlegable and seems like you have some respect and pull on here.... can you or somone do a video on how to pack usng a phunnel and normal heat managemnt using golden coals...i still have coco and orange soda an determend to get this to work...that is what we need, a video from the man himself.. it would makke life so much easier around the HF every time someone had a ? bout tangiers... Edited October 3, 2007 by ASUSEAN1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 QUOTE (ASUSEAN1 @ Oct 3 2007, 06:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (lp640man @ Oct 3 2007, 03:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>What about a Video... pleaseeee u seem knowlegable and seems like you have some respect and pull on here.... can you or somone do a video on how to pack usng a phunnel and normal heat managemnt using golden coals...i still have coco and orange soda an determend to get this to work...that is what we need, a video from the man himself.. it would makke life so much easier aroud the HF everytime had a ? bout tangiers...Bloody great idea!How-to Tangiers from the man who makes it!Come on Eric - Waggle your bum for the camera!JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenSilk Posted October 3, 2007 Share Posted October 3, 2007 Yeah exactly, just hop on youtube and bam, Tangiers 101. No more questions asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NarghileNights Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 tried tangiers after i made my previous post following all of the directions suggested in this topic.. andddddddsame results! even with a FULLY loaded funnel bowl, and a low amount of heat, I got a very light, extremely harsh smoke. And this one can not be blamed on acclimation because the shisha had been out for around 3 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeB1322 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 (edited) . Edited April 6, 2021 by JakeB1322 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeSearchOff Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 I think awhile ago mushy said he actually cuts up his tangiers with a knife. Not sure if he still does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenSilk Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 Ehhhh.... I think if you leave it out for three days in the burning desert sun, and not stirring it at all.... it may lose a little flavor.. but i doubt anyone is doing that. But i bet it might lose some flavor if it's stored inadequately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamscott06 Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 QUOTE (SafeSearchOff @ Oct 4 2007, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I think awhile ago mushy said he actually cuts up his tangiers with a knife. Not sure if he still does.When i mix mine tangiers with Layalina i cut up the tangiers with a knife and mix it nice then i can just pack it in a regular bowl with 1 coal on top and smoke away Last night i did some X-94-1 and some Lay Mint and it was amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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