mushrat Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Just got my C&C permit this week. It's a very strange feeling being able to walk down the street wearing a gun...Anyone else carry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shisha fan Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 don`t have one, don`t need one. do you live in a very criminal neighbourhood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 So. Finally.We learn that MushRat has a big weapon in his slacks!JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skarredmind Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 QUOTE (mushrat @ Oct 20 2007, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Just got my C&C permit this week. It's a very strange feeling being able to walk down the street wearing a gun...Anyone else carry?What do you carry?? I want to get one for myself... Course, the problem is finding something good for cc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krautle87 Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Fuck pistols. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabanapatio Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 I hear parts of NC is pretty bad...is that why you're packing??My friends did a door to door sales job in NC and got shot at TWICE! They were also asked for drugs for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scheetz Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 QUOTE (mushrat @ Oct 20 2007, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Just got my C&C permit this week. It's a very strange feeling being able to walk down the street wearing a gun...Anyone else carry?QUOTE (cabanapatio @ Oct 20 2007, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I hear parts of NC is pretty bad...is that why you're packing??Never assume any place is "good." Thats not being paranoid on our part. Thats the fact of life.-Stay Safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeSearchOff Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 isn't it like virtually impossible to get a license to carry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinamon Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 QUOTE (SafeSearchOff @ Oct 22 2007, 04:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>isn't it like virtually impossible to get a license to carry?it is here in canada.the only people that carry here are brinks security and police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scheetz Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 QUOTE (SafeSearchOff @ Oct 22 2007, 12:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>isn't it like virtually impossible to get a license to carry?No, you just have to be willing to do all the work to receive it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.ryan Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 QUOTE (chinamon @ Oct 21 2007, 11:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (SafeSearchOff @ Oct 22 2007, 04:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>isn't it like virtually impossible to get a license to carry?it is here in canada.the only people that carry here are brinks security and police....and many other armoured car/security companies, border guards, transit police, the military, nuclear security companies, hunters/trappers/other workers in remote areas, and anyone whose life is in imminent danger from another individual and cannot be sufficiently protected by police and can justify the use of a restricted firearm for personal protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sariél Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 I have a Glock 23 that i wear when doing hiphop sessions, or late night recording sessions at unfamiliar studios downtown. There were a rash of studio robberies in LA a few years back. They would book a late night session, rent a bunch of gear, and the beat and tie up the assistant engineer and anyone else in the building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherBuford Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 (edited) I've been carrying a Kimber 1911 (.45 ACP) since 2002.I have a concealed handgun permit, which is pretty easy to get, but here in VA you don't need a license of any kind to carry in plain view (open carry). I occasionally do so, and you are legally required to if you're in an establishment that serves alcohol as there is a specific prohibition on concealed carry in such places but there is no law regarding open carry.In VA to get a concealed carry permit you have to have proof of training (which can be any of a long list of acceptable things, including hunter safety training like the class I took in 1992 to get a hunting license), have a background check done, have fingerprints taken (only in some counties/cities - not a statewide requirement), and pay $50. Non-residents can get VA permits for $100, but VA does recognize some out of state licenses.As far as open carry goes, if you're legal to own it you can carry it. Doesn't matter if you're a resident or not. Edited October 22, 2007 by BrotherBuford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelflage Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 QUOTE (BrotherBuford @ Oct 22 2007, 10:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I have a concealed handgun permit, which is pretty easy to get, but here in VA you don't need a license of any kind to carry in plain view (open carry). I occasionally do so, and you are legally required to if you're in an establishment that serves alcohol as there is a specific prohibition on concealed carry in such places but there is no law regarding open carry.i was wondering about that. do most bars here in VA go with the "no concealed firearms" policy or are they "no weapons" period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinamon Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 canadians dont need to carry weapons to feel safe.thats what is so messed up about american culture.the only reason why i would love to carry a gun is so i can shoot someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherBuford Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 QUOTE (camelflage @ Oct 22 2007, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i was wondering about that. do most bars here in VA go with the "no concealed firearms" policy or are they "no weapons" period?Technically, there is no such thing as a "bar" in Virginia. A pub and a family restaurant that serves beer fall in the same legal classification of the alcohol statutes, that being "restaurant". Restaurants that have an ABC on-premises license are off-limits for concealed carry by state law, VA code section 18.2-308 subsection J3. That code section specifically says "concealed", so open carry is legal by omission (as it is also not prohibited elsewhere in the state code, excepting state parks - only concealed carry is legal there). Concealed carry is legal in restaurants that do not have ABC licenses.It is up to the restaurant owner as to whether or not they allow (legal) carry. Some have policies, some don't. I don't patronize those that do prohibit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherBuford Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 (edited) QUOTE (chinamon @ Oct 22 2007, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>canadians dont need to carry weapons to feel safe.thats what is so messed up about american culture.the only reason why i would love to carry a gun is so i can shoot someone.I don't carry a firearm to "feel" safe. I carry one to BE safe.A firearm is a tool, and if carried for the purpose of self-defense, a weapon that is intended to be able to inflict harm on another. The intention is to prevent a disparity of force with the victim being the weaker if placed in an adverse situation, and if necessary the option of deadly force is available. I have a friend who was mugged about three weeks ago around here, so crime isn't some abstract thing that never happens. I intend to be prepared for if and when a situation does occur. You don't have to be paranoid to be prepared. I've never had a fire in my kitchen, but I still have a fire extinguisher.Ok, that aside...Re: mushrat, it does take a little getting used to, but you will notice that you tend to be more observant of what is around you as well. After a while you will stop feeling odd, though, and NOT having it will make you feel unusual.VA permits are recognized in NC now, but NC has a lot more restrictions than VA on where you can and can't go. I always feel a little weird when I'm down there, like I'm locked in a cage of arbitrary legal distinctions. Edited October 22, 2007 by BrotherBuford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGWTFBBQ Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Not I, I don't even have a license to own a gun lol.I plan to get one soon though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scheetz Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Buford already covered it pretty well. VA must open carry when alcohol is served AND consumed on premise. If a restaurant chooses to boot me because they feel unsafe with me carrying then I leave. I do however send the general manager a letter to find out if its restaurant code or "the manager's" code. I will also inform the general manager as to how the employees handled the situation. If the manager becomes irate, trust me the word gets passed on to his uppers. If he is polite and asks us to leave as customers are complaining, I will pass on the good word about him within my letter. As well, majority of carriers do not carry because they feel unsafe. There are people out there who do, mostly because of someone who has made threats on their lives. For those of us who don't have these threats we carry because: A- We can, B- We choose to protect ourselves in a better way than dialing 911, C- Because we can, D- Its impossible to carry a police officer in your pocket. One of the biggest reasons people have: Because our forefathers gave us the right to and we sure as hell plan to use it.Buford, are you on OCDO?And Mush, the best suggestion that most CC'ers pass on is to take a trip to Wal*mart. You will get over your "everyone is looking at me" stage real quick. Just keep your hands of your holster as most people, including myself tend to tug on them in the beginning. You get that feeling that someone can see you printing and you want to fix it. I also suggest a good holster and belt. They will make a world of difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherBuford Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 (edited) Scheetz: Naah, I'm not on OCDO but I've met the founders Mike and possibly John at VCDL meetings and at the VA General Assembly. I'm not sure on John because I don't know what he looks like.Mush: I second Scheetz's comment on a good belt and holster. It makes carry a lot easier. A good holster is a safety feature in and of itself. What kind of pistol you got, anyway? Edited October 23, 2007 by BrotherBuford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearsay Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 QUOTE (chinamon @ Oct 22 2007, 02:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>canadians dont need to carry weapons to feel safe.thats what is so messed up about american culture.I feel safe pretty much anywhere I go and carrying a gun all over the place seems outlandish to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akkbar Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 canadians feel safe? do you feel safe knowing that the police are at least 6 minutes away... if you're even able to dial the phone for help?i dont feel that safe when i go downtown, or even to my local bar. We (Calgary) have had a number of drivebys and shootings at malls and such... But, it's okay, 'cuz I can call the police from my cell phone while running/ducking behind a table. They got my back.Last month I arrested a guy on the train platform for being drunk and waving a knife at passers-by. I called 911 and arrested him. I ended up waiting for AN HOUR AND A HALF for 2 scrawny paramedics to show up.I think us campus security guards should have sidearms.So chinamon, you feel safe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scheetz Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 QUOTE (Hearsay @ Oct 22 2007, 11:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I feel safe pretty much anywhere I go and carrying a gun all over the place seems outlandish to me.Thats not why we carry. It doesn't matter if you feel safe or if you are in your own home. Look at it this way. You have car insurance "incase" you have an accident. Now you don't have car insurance to go looking for a crash to participate in. Its the same way with the gun carriers. Its another tool in the bag "incase" it is needed. We are not carrying just so we can travel into the bad part of town and feel like billy badass. There is nothing outlandish to it. Your life does not change because you are carrying, you add 2 minutes extra to getting dressed and a few hours to learn the laws. You carry concealed for the fact that only you know you have it. Police claim to have a 6 minute response time. Now in those 6 minutes that you are being attacked alot can happen. I wouldn't count on the police to be able to do anything but fill out some paper work by the time they show up. I have a family member who was attacked in a hospital parking lot while walking to their car. The man stole their bag, their car and left them knocked out cold. Not to long ago I had a friend who was in the same situation at a mall and a well established mall at that. Not your normal high school mall hangout. This time they showed their holster (read not having to draw) and the man turned heel and took off. What position would you rather be in. I chose not to be a victim as did many others. I may have been headstrong in high school and the beginning of college. But after looking back and seeing how I just barely made it out of those years alive. I chose to not let myself be vulnerable nor my family or anyone who I am with. In this day and age, you can not count on a stranger to come to your aid. I know of a young lady who was dragged by a man in front of a wal*mart style store into his car and raped. On a busy day, with a high schooler (at the time) screaming for help nobody even attempted to. She is lucky to be alive, as the man let her go after a few days. She now carries to make sure it never happens again. Every person who carries has their specific underlying reason. Stay Safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelflage Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 thanks for the info guys, im looking into getting a sidearm sometime soon, and then my CC license shortly after that. of course as picky as i am it'll take forever to actually decide on a piece... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scheetz Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 QUOTE (camelflage @ Oct 23 2007, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>thanks for the info guys, im looking into getting a sidearm sometime soon, and then my CC license shortly after that. of course as picky as i am it'll take forever to actually decide on a piece... I would recommend going to a gun store and seeing what fits your hand properly. I'd also suggest a 9mm for carry, while I carry a 40S&W the 9mm +P ammo is right up its alley for impact. With being said, a 9mm will carry 2 more rounds, will save you a few bucks for each box of practice ammo you buy and will be a slightly smaller gun. Hell, I am right in your location. If you want when you go I'll come with you and give my opinion. Most gun store sales clerks have no people skills and just push whatever gun they like the most. Or the one the gun store tells them to push. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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