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hmmm i took in everyones information no doubt about that. i was gonna get half a box of golden and half a box of 3king.....but hookah-shisha only sells golden so i decided to go with that and not the discounted ones i was originally going to go with (sone quick lighting that was 8bucks for 100 and lasted between 20-30 min)
as for the tobacco...except for the premium kind that my hookah comes with (roman) im very reluctant to get any more as if they catch it that 18 cents a gram.  so what im going to do is write down all these brands and i belive there is a bunch of arabic and persian stores on Young street in my area (for those of you who don't know young street is the longest street in the world strectching from the bottom of our country (roughly toronto) to the top (no clue what city). very popular street with a subway line and everything.....gotta be some ma'ssel there
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I just wanted to toss in my 2 cents.

Although I prefer finger coals, if you're in a bind or bring your
hookah somewhere that doesn't allow for preparing natural/finger coals,
then 3 kings or goldens do just fine. Those are the top brands for this
type of coal. BUT PLEASE READ ON.
Yeah you knew there was a BUT....

Some important notes though:

Be sure the coals are completely red FOR A FEW MINUTES before applying
them to your bowl to allow impurities to burn off! This is important!
Blow on them all over and don't miss any spots! Instant placement
immediately after ignition  results in crap flavor.

There are some quick-lites to AVOID AT ALL COSTS!!
It's the brand with the minarets on the box. These are TOTAL CRAP.
They're a pain to light because they need babysitting during ignition,
they don't last long AT ALL, and they taste like tailpipe when you DO
finally get them on.

In case any of the new people were thinking about it, don't use BBQ
charcoal briquettes! These contain dangerous chemicals through and
through.
King Tut's in Tempe, Arizona uses KINGSFORD and this is a total hookah crime.

On another note, many people have had PERFECT experiences from grabbing
(not in the literal sense of course!) some red coals from the bottom of
your campfire!
Especially true with cedar, pine, or other conifer wood. I would avoid
coals from fires of contruction woods as these have been treated
chemically.
When in doubt, GO NATURAL.
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There's a lot of rage here, considering you're all hookah smokers. Ha, all I can think of when I'm smoking the hookah is which flavour I plan on using and obviously the spruced conversation between me and my friends. Show the love folks. The perks of being Canadian, it's very difficult to get upset . Happy smoking bro,Jon
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Molson, I found a hookah directory that has hookah lounges in Toronto. They may not sell the hookahs or ma'assel but at least you'll be able to test some different flavours out before buying. If you get friendly enough with them you can ask where they got their tobacco and what kind it is. Happy smoking!Jon
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[quote name='jmexx']. The perks of being Canadian, it's very difficult to get upset . Happy smoking bro, Jon[/quote]
AMEN
as for their being hookah bars down here i don't doubt it, and there is definitly places to buy some ma'assel. just had some guy tell me about a place called nasal. but their in toronto and im in the suburbs....but i'll drive or take public transit (the transit system is really good here)
jmexx could i get that list off you? if you can pm could you shoot me an email at repy66@hotmail.com
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[quote name='Molson']wow you guys are awsome.. (not being sarcastic) thank you very much
so cypress- i did do some research after u mentioned it (sorry for not doing it before) and as you said 24.32 is a good size. so that definitly turned me off the pocket ones, unfortunatly the price and size won't work for me but i did look at bigger ones then a pocket size[/quote]
Math, you also missed him saying price was an issue. so what you consider the "very best" wasn't in his budget in the first place, and your continued insistance that he go premium all the way was really a waste of time, since, as I've said before, not everyone is willing or able to spend money they really don't have on this fine pasttime. SO while Yashman's methods were a bit strong, his objection was quite valid.
You're WAY out of line.
$.02
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I always realised that price was an issue for him,  that was quite
obvious judging by the price of the hookah he was going to buy. 
And,  I see yours and Yashman's point about not pushing newbies in
the direction of Premium.  And I further realise that I'm a bit of
an EXTREME eccentric because I'll spend hundreds of dollars right down
to my last bit of spare change so that I can get the BEST stuff
available  that will last me until I get my next monthly
payment.  I realise that I'm not being very practical by pointing
newbies in the direction of buying only Premium,  and giving
Molson the idea that it's Premium or NOTHING......because the low-end
stuff SUCKS!!!

I'm sorry for pissing people off in this thread,  I didn't mean to get tempers flaring.

But,  I've always been the type of person, even outside of my
Hookah Life,  that when looking for something to buy,  I live
by the belief that when you buy cheap you get cheap.  That's not
always true,  but it's been my experience in life that when you
THINK PREMIUM you often times GET PREMIUM.  When I go out looking
for an apartment,  I'll look at what I can't afford first, 
and then work my way down from there.  With that method,  I
feel I'm more likely to find a Gem QUICKER than if I start in the
low-range.  I've found the same thing to be true with Ma'assell
& Cigars.  I started out smoking the cheap stuff only to find
that most of what I found was barely smokable.  I wasted time and
money by researching the low-end brands,  only to come to the
realization that the Premium stuff was of MUCH higher quality tobacco
and tasted FAR better than the cheap stuff.  I will ALWAYS believe
that because I've done my research and that is what I have found to be
true.  By actively pushing Molson in the Premium direction, I
TRULY believed that I was doing him a favor so that he wouldn't have to
waste his time & money researching every single brand out
there.  Do you realise how discouraging that can be to a person on
a budget?  Yashman thought that Molson might find that he likes
some of the lower-end stuff.  Well,  that may possibly be
true.  But,  why not taste the Premium stuff first,  so
that you have a guideline to compare the lower-end stuff to.  Why
did I push him toward Premium?  Because I felt that Molson would
come to appreciate the fact that by buying LESS of the Premium
ma'assell,  he would have a better smoking experience than if he
were to buy MORE of the low-end stuff.  Doesn't that make
sense?  That way,  in the long run,  he's actually
saving money.  Because the Premium ma'assell is BOUND to taste FAR
better than the low-end stuff.  Molson was planning on buying a
TON of the Nakhla & Al-Waha and some low-grade charcoal to last him
a LONG while.  What he probably would have found-out was that it
may have been a better idea buying LESS by going Premium,  and
that way he would have stayed in his budget and had a fair sum of
ma'assell to smoke.  As he said,  he was only planning on
smoking a VERY small amount per week.  So,  had he gone
Premium with Romman he would have no doubt had a positive experience
that he could look forward to everytime he puts that hose to his
mouth.  That's what I experience everytime I smoke Romman, 
it's SHEER excellence.  I feel about Romman the same way most
people around here feel about Al-Fakher,  it's PREMIUM
stuff.  Why do they charge more for it than the Nakhla, 
because it's BETTER tobacco!

But,  once again,  I didn't mean to piss anyone off. 
And I'm sorry if you think I'm "WAY" out of line,  but I gave you
my reasons for doing what I did,  and I'm sticking by my beliefs
of how I handled myself in that situation with Molson 
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Oh.......and I have NO IDEA why you're not able to post anything in the
subject lines. I'm just a Moderator around here,  I have nothing
to do with the design or administration of this website.  For your
answers,  you're going to have to somehow connect with the
Admin,  adrock5150.  But,  considering the fact that
he's rarely ever here,  and hasn't left an email address for us to
contact him at,  I don't see your problem being resolved anytime
soon.

Sorry man,  wish I could do more for you 
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Thanks for the the help math, but do you think you can send him a PM on my behalf? I'd appreciate that very much. Just tell him about my situation and ask him to send me an email address where I can contact him.Thanks!Jon
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See guys, Math isn't such a bad guy! He just REALLY likes his hookah experience and wants everyone else to enjoy the best possible experience as he does. We all have our own tastes, but it's all good in the hood!Jon
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Alright,  I get the point.  I realise I've been shoving my
opinions down people's throats,  and I can see now that it's not
good for the forum or it's members,  and I'm not going to do that
anymore.

Please forgive me for my insolence and my obstinance
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Geeze........in trying to ban BADASS,  I altered my own Moderator privedges somehow.

Can one of the other moderators please go into my profile,  I
forgot what catagory it's under,  but there's a section at the
bottom of the screen that says:

Active User

Yes/No

Will you please put the dot in the "Yes" selection for me?  Thanks!

Or else somebody else tried to ban me.......I doubt that's the
case,  but it's always a possibility..........I'm sorry if I've
angered people in my posts lately 
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Hmmm....nevermind,  I don't know what's going on,  I've lost
all moderator privedges,  plus I can't even update my own profile
page.  The system keeps logging me out for some reason.

What a bummer!  I wish the admin,  adrock5150,  would
check-in more often so we could get some problems fixed 
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