A New Hookah Site....Anyone Ever Seen It?

[Mathazar]

Get this,  they sell Havana ma'assel 250 grams for $35 

That is A LOT of money!

Although,  the way they describe this ma'assel is very
enticing.  They've got several flavors,  including: 
Cola,  a few different grapes,  a few different apple
(including Eskanderani - Sour Apple),  GRAPEFRUIT??? LOL, 
and several other interesting flavors.  I picked-out 11 that I'd
like to buy,  but the grand total would cost me $385

I think I'm gonna go for it anyway.  Can't do it until the 23rd of
the month,  but when I do I'll write-up some reviews 

They also sell and have in-stock The Scorpio Hookah.  You guys
know which one I'm talking about,  it's the all-silver - rotator -
with 6 red velvet hoses - and the "Auto-Seal System".

Go check them out:

www.Shisha-Emirates.com 

[yashman19]

Man, just reading the Havana brand description, I really want to give
it a try. But I would just sit there thinking about how my money is
going up in smoke . And since I'm
not a big fan of anise, I've never bought too much apple of any brand,
and I haven't been able to locate Al Fahker Eskandarni at my local
shop, so that Havana Eskandarani sounds really tempting... Mmmmm

Other than that, the site is new to me. It looks pretty clean cut and
well organized, although I'd be a little nervous buying a hookah from
the site. Under each hookah pic there is a link to comments, and not
one hookah has a single customer comment. Now this can mean many
things, but to me it just looks as if they haven't been in the game for
very long.

God I wanna try Havana

[mushrat]

I'm personally quite skeptical.
Just because there is an impressive description doesnt mean its actually any good. How many times have you seen brands like Nakhla and AlWaha described as "premium" and "best ma'asell on the market" by sites selling the stuff? Calling your product "super premium" and charging a lot of money for it is a pretty standard marketing ploy. After all, who's gonna say "Our stuff is pretty good and its only 12 bucks a box?" And not even listing the price of the top stuff is quite cute.
Any of you got 35 bucks plus shipping to try an unheard of tobacco? Heck, Sara, which everyone who has tasted it says its the best XX apple they have ever tried, is only $9 a 200g box. And AF golden is only 15 or 16....How much better can something be to cost TWICE that??
Anyone who actually DOES spend 40 or so bucks to get a box let me know, I got some waterfront land in Florida I'd like to interest you in.
Then again, I could be talking out of my arse and the stuff could be better than sex....but I juuuuuust don't think so.
$.02

[uselessdreamer1]

thats outrages 35 dollars... send some of that money your wasting my way.

[Mathazar]

I don't care,  I'm still gonna try it.  Though,  based
on what Mushrat just said,  I'm not going to buy a dozen packs of
the stuff all at once.  I'm just going to buy  2 or 3 packs
of my favorite flavors.

Thanks you guys for the input 

[uselessdreamer1]

why not get 50g packs. thats good enoough. see if this stuff really is "delux"

[Mathazar]

Oh.....and Grapefruit sounds INCREDIBLE.  I'm a Grapefruit NUT 

[Mathazar]

Yep,  50g packs is also an idea that I hadn't considered.

I was just so taken by their descriptions,  I allowed myself to be
swept away at the thought of smoking what could potentially be the
finest ma'assel on the planet.

Boy,  it's a good thing I don't have a lot of money,  because
I'd be an internet junkie, buying all the newest and best stuff on the
market 

[mushrat]

Here ya go...premium my butt....
 
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[uselessdreamer1]

HAHAHA LMAO THATS HILARIOUS.

[Mathazar]

LOL.....Okay,  ya got me there! 

I saw the first two sites while searching earlier in the evening,  but TobaccoImportUSA seems like the best way to go.

Thanks for doing the search.

Ahhh.....but they don't have Grapefruit,  and Shisha-Emerates DOES 

So,  I'll buy one 50gram pack of the Grapefruit 

[uselessdreamer1]

yea i could see that, 7 dollars for a rare flavor is worth it. i guess the moral is to search the net before buying. LOL

[Mathazar]

Well,  I did search the net,  and I saw those first 2 sites
that mushrat listed,  but they only had a couple of flavors. 
The 3rd site he listed,  TobaccoImportUSA,  I didn't see in
my search.  Had I seen that,  I definitely would not have
started this thread 

[great glavin]

To put the final nail in the coffin of this nonsense...
Dont buy havana brand, ive been through alot of their flavors and they arent premium, hell they are usually not really worth getting compared to romman, al fakher. Even al waha and nahkla consistently out perform it.
and yeah, this isnt a different havana brand either, the boxes match. Im really suprised that this guy is pushing this mediocre brand like that.
Flavors tried:
orange
mint
cappucino
double apple
melon (oh god it was terrible)
grapes
I wouldnt consider any brand that could screw up mint, melon, AND orange.
 
 

[uselessdreamer1]

well im glad you informed us of this bad qulitity shisha. I was thinking about getting a 50 box to try. thanks for the heed.

[yashman19]

Once again, someone else might find this stuff pretty peachy keen. I'm
pretty damn interested in grapefruit as well. Probably a nice tangy
flavor. Mmmm

[HookahCulture]

Gotta love the marketing language.......

"Havana Flavored Tobacco Brand is considered by the avid Hookah smoker
to be the most flavorful tobacco available on the market."

 --- Ummmm... really?

"The quality
of the smoke surpasses any other brand..."

 -- Pretty strong praise there.

 "Havana
Flavored Tobacco is manufactured in the United Arab Emirates, and is
the most popular Flavored Tobacco brand in the Middle Eastern region at
this time."

 --- More than Nakhla?

Since I've heard that AF Esk will no longer be available, this should
be interesting to see how it measures up. Looks like tobaccoimportusa
has the most flavors.
If anyone's planning to get a bunch of 50g's for reviews, do me a favor and review the eskandrani please? Thanks!

[John Deere]

Havana is really not THAT good, and I bought it in Dearborn for 5.99
for 250g. If anyone seriously buys it for 35.00, you are a complete
idiot.

[great glavin]

The ATI apple seems to be a little over the top too, seems more like a personal plugging of the product then anything.
Who the hell has a catchphrase for a company like "The arrogance of excellence" either???
I mean $50 for 250 grams, thats just over the top. It better put out gold dust in the smoke for me to pay that much, ever...

[Shisha Emirates]

Dear Members of the Forum,

[Kofod]

New page or not - doing your homework in the world Hookah before
launching would reveal that tobacco taxes are (naturally) not the same
in UK as the USA - hence the difference in price.

I might concur that Havanna would rate somewhat higher than Nakhla but the sentence "Putting Nakhla and Havana in the same sentence is like putting Ford and Lexus in the same category."
seems to be just a continueing of the empty "We are out of this world
and the rest is crap" phrases that Hookahculture already stated a fine
oppinion to.
People know what "standard" / "premium" etc. are - leave it with that and don't overdo it.

In an overall rating of Havanna I shall not let my own opponion be the
judge but I would recon that finding broad consensus for Havana to top
over Al Fakher and being a new "super-premium"-class would be hard.

[HOOKAH BADASS]

Kofod [Gentleman from Denmark],After all of the information posted on this thread, I visited the subject site. I have to tell you that it's better than the usual site to which I have grown accustom. As far as the tax issue, I respectfully suggest that you have no idea what you are talking about. Without taking sides here, please be advised, that as an accountant inside U.S. territory, the new tax laws relating to tobacco sales make what's happening in the U.K. look pretty desirable. Assuming everything is on the up and up, the new site is paying at least five different surcharge taxes that I can think of, and in some of the States a weight specific tax is being applied. Assuming all of that is built into the price on their site, it's not a question of people not "doing their homework".  I suspect the other sites may not be concerning themselves with tax issues at all. I have never conributed to this forum, although I have enjoyed it for some time, but I thought a fair analysis of the products and prices is what this forum is all about. I don't know about the rest of the barbs that I have seen posted here, but the tax issue - good luck to anyone selling tobacco right now in the U.S., and best of luck to shisha emirates!

[mushrat]

Anthony,
"Premium retail store"? Meaning a fancy name for STILL charging 2 1/2 TIMES what your competitor is charging? Folks on the web aren't going to be interested in what you call YOURSELVES. They are going to shop around and find the best price. Calling your competitor a wholesaler doesn't change the fact that we will be able, IF we so desire, to get the same product at less than half the price. "Premium Retail Store" means NOTHING to those of us sitting at home ordering  something online. Why would we give a rats arse what a company calls itself? If research shows someplace has the best price and delivers what they advertise, thats where we'll go.
You also only addressed ONE of the 2 sites I found...the other a mere wholesaler as well? Your prices are high. period. And no amount of fast talking is going to change that fact. To think we'd believe otherwise is insulting to the intelligence of the members of this forum.
As for the quality. While each person's tastes will vary, we have found that, generally speaking, crappy ma'asell is crappy ma'asell. And while some of us, myself included, like Naklah for certain flavours, we will still agree its NOT high quality premium ma'asell.  Personally, I'd give far greater weight to the opinions of the members of this forum than I would to someone who thinks we'll believe calling their site a "Premium Retail Store" is justification for charging over twice the going rate for ANYTHING.
$22.50 for a $10 box of Ma'asell...ya..thats MUCH better...
Adam
$.03

[uselessdreamer1]

my thoughts exactally.

[HOOKAH BADASS]

Well, I already threw my 2 cents in once, I mine as well go for broke. To begin with, uselessdreamer ought to change his name to just plain useless. In studying this thread, all I see is your extremely negative input. I see not, one constructive comment. In fact, all I see is snide and nasty comments. In the VI we have ISAFAHAN for people like you. You ought to try some, and after that you can pull that stick out of your butt that seems to make you the miserable sort.Mushrat, it seems the Emirates guy explained his position, and that of their enterprise. If you want to buy your peasant shisha from anonymous web merchants, I don't think he is trying to change your mind. What I see is someone who said he has a unique product that he will sell to you for a pre-determined price, and that his site will back up the product, plus pay the required duties on the product and maybe spare you a call from the respective governments involved in these transactions.Or, more simply put, you are are two talking assholes.