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Hello all,

I started smoking hookah about 2 months ago, and everythign is going great, except for one thing. I have never gone to a real hookah bar and the only smoking Ive done is at home with layalina, starbuzz, al amir shisha. Now, I dont know how much I am supposed to be tasting, and its kind of confusing. I read the reviews of the shisha and stuff but when I compare it to what i experience, its nothing like said reviews. With star buzz white peach, I taste the peach when the smoke im sucking hits my tongue, but the taste only comes from when the smoke hits my tongue. Even then, the taste does not taste like the smell of the shisha. You all talk about mouth -watering tastes from starbuzz, but I never notice it. When I read what you guys taste, I think you guys get like SMOKE FULL OF FLAVOR , like all that smoke in your mouth has flavor, not just when it pressures against your tongue.

I usually use:

Mya Vortex
h20+ 50-60% ice
Phunnel small bowl ( no scali, doesnt seem like a difference, plus its harder to draw)
2 layer foil
3k 33mm coal

I usually pack my bowl gently by fluffing shisha till it hits the top, then I use 2 whole 3k 33m coals and put it on opposite sides.
Im trying out new foil methods but I still dont taste a lot, and the smoke isnt globbish, heavy, or very thick. I only get decent thickness but not so that it flows liek a river fall.
The only time I got it to be globular was when I first got my funnel and used al amir, no clue what I did.

Usual foil method is 2 concave circles, outer and then around the circle. My new one is where you just poke holes where the coal is gonna be and then let it sit there...
any suggestions/ advice?
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Well, most flavor comes from the exhale especially if you do "dragon's breath" and exhale from your mouth and nose simultaneously. Personally, I can't really taste on inhale anyway, just on the exhale.
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QUOTE (MechAnt @ Oct 22 2007, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, most flavor comes from the exhale especially if you do "dragon's breath" and exhale from your mouth and nose simultaneously. Personally, I can't really taste on inhale anyway, just on the exhale.


I dont think its possible to exhale from your mouth and nose simultaneously. laugh.gif
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One time about 3 of my friends were debating about how a flavour tasted
We all said stuff like:
"There's a very subtle, sweet acidic bite which gets you at the end."
and
"No way, you can grasp a vibe of a fruity backround taste almost masked the the powerful refreshment."

Then my one friend says: "It just tastes like tobacco."
And that was the truth.
That's when I stopped caring about taste.
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i love sb white peach and it tastes super peachy to me. not sure whats up with your taste receptors on the tongue but i use almost the same set up as you, except i do use the scali mod. even then using a mya bowl i have a boat load of taste. so im not sure whats up with you lol
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QUOTE (thomas @ Oct 22 2007, 02:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (MechAnt @ Oct 22 2007, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, most flavor comes from the exhale especially if you do "dragon's breath" and exhale from your mouth and nose simultaneously. Personally, I can't really taste on inhale anyway, just on the exhale.


I dont think its possible to exhale from your mouth and nose simultaneously. laugh.gif


It is..
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It is possible. Most people can do it. Its very easy. Runners and other endurance athletes have it easiest because while training, they inadvertently learn to exhale with both nose and mouth (same with inhale). I know this from personal experience cause I used to be a cross country runner.
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QUOTE (thomas @ Oct 22 2007, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (MechAnt @ Oct 22 2007, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, most flavor comes from the exhale especially if you do "dragon's breath" and exhale from your mouth and nose simultaneously. Personally, I can't really taste on inhale anyway, just on the exhale.


I dont think its possible to exhale from your mouth and nose simultaneously. laugh.gif


I do it all the time.
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QUOTE (thomas @ Oct 22 2007, 02:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (MechAnt @ Oct 22 2007, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, most flavor comes from the exhale especially if you do "dragon's breath" and exhale from your mouth and nose simultaneously. Personally, I can't really taste on inhale anyway, just on the exhale.


I dont think its possible to exhale from your mouth and nose simultaneously. laugh.gif



it is because i can do whats called a "waterfall" its when you exhale from your mouth and inhale through your nose at the same time. Looks like you're "recycling" the smoke. Its so dope. I saw it on a snoop dogg video couple years back and practiced my ass off until i got it. Im a pro now. lol
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I have found that there are 3 ways of tasting. First, stick your tongue next to the hole in the hose and inhale hard. Or, inhale and with the smoke still in your lungs sort of smack your lips and tongue. Third is exhaling, works on certain flavors only.


i agree with safesearch on this one, also it takes a while for the flavor to build up in my hookah after a couple rotations the flavor really becomes dominant to the point were putting it against your tongue is no longer necessary once you get to that point your golden.
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QUOTE (racemyghost @ Oct 23 2007, 01:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it is because i can do whats called a "waterfall" its when you exhale from your mouth and inhale through your nose at the same time. Looks like you're "recycling" the smoke. Its so dope. I saw it on a snoop dogg video couple years back and practiced my ass off until i got it. Im a pro now. lol



when doing the reverse waterfall, you arent actually exhaling. you do a "mouth inhale" of smoke from whatever the source is (cigarette, hookah, cigar). keep the smoke in your mouth and slowly push it out with the back of your tongue while simultaneously inhaling with your nose.

if you can get your lungs to exhale from your mouth while inhaling with your nose at the same time then you must've been wired wrong at birth. lol.
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QUOTE (thomas @ Oct 22 2007, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hello all,

I started smoking hookah about 2 months ago, and everythign is going great, except for one thing. I have never gone to a real hookah bar and the only smoking Ive done is at home with layalina, starbuzz, al amir shisha. Now, I dont know how much I am supposed to be tasting, and its kind of confusing. I read the reviews of the shisha and stuff but when I compare it to what i experience, its nothing like said reviews. With star buzz white peach, I taste the peach when the smoke im sucking hits my tongue, but the taste only comes from when the smoke hits my tongue. Even then, the taste does not taste like the smell of the shisha. You all talk about mouth -watering tastes from starbuzz, but I never notice it. When I read what you guys taste, I think you guys get like SMOKE FULL OF FLAVOR , like all that smoke in your mouth has flavor, not just when it pressures against your tongue.

I usually use:

Mya Vortex
h20+ 50-60% ice
Phunnel small bowl ( no scali, doesnt seem like a difference, plus its harder to draw)
2 layer foil
3k 33mm coal

I usually pack my bowl gently by fluffing shisha till it hits the top, then I use 2 whole 3k 33m coals and put it on opposite sides.
Im trying out new foil methods but I still dont taste a lot, and the smoke isnt globbish, heavy, or very thick. I only get decent thickness but not so that it flows liek a river fall.
The only time I got it to be globular was when I first got my funnel and used al amir, no clue what I did.

Usual foil method is 2 concave circles, outer and then around the circle. My new one is where you just poke holes where the coal is gonna be and then let it sit there...
any suggestions/ advice?


You should pack the bowl more when using the phunnel without the mod
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i know what you mean, im relativly new to hookah a well. i think a big bit of ti is placebo. if you plan on tasting alot, you will. on the flipside, if you have doubts on wether you are goin to taste it, you wont.

I smoke Pharoah Kiwi-Strawberry in my 2 hose Pharoah hookah. I occasionaly put some wild berry juice in the vase. or wat I will do is drop a couple handfuls of different flavored Jolly Ranchers into the water. kinda makes the cleaning hard, but it really enhances the flavor.
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QUOTE (Bushbr @ Oct 24 2007, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i know what you mean, im relativly new to hookah a well. i think a big bit of ti is placebo. if you plan on tasting alot, you will. on the flipside, if you have doubts on wether you are goin to taste it, you wont.

I smoke Pharoah Kiwi-Strawberry in my 2 hose Pharoah hookah. I occasionaly put some wild berry juice in the vase. or wat I will do is drop a couple handfuls of different flavored Jolly Ranchers into the water. kinda makes the cleaning hard, but it really enhances the flavor.


Interesting Idea's Bushbr.

And it reflects, in a way, my own thoughts on hookah. I think there is a vast over-expectation on what shisha should deliver in the way of taste.

Most of the flavours that i have experienced are strong on the ex-hale than in. And tend to be fairly subtle undercurrents of flavour rather than "OH MY GODS I'm EATING TEH FLAVOURS!!1!!11!" If you get my drift. [1]

So if your expecting the above then i think your often disappointed. If your expecting subtle carried flavours on the smoke, then your probably going to be quite happy.

JD

[1] - Apart from menthol. That really is insane. But it's kind expected with anything menthol.
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