Nissan Gt-r Is Out

[RayVer]

so the Nissan GT-R got released in japen 2 days ago. It's soooooooo sweet.

Check it out at http://www.gtrnissan.com/

All the info is there.

engine specs..
• VR-series twin-turbocharged 3.8-liter V6.
• 480 hp @ 6,800 rpm. 430 lb-ft torque @ 3,200–5,200 rpm.
• Dual overhead camshafts with variable intake-valve timing.
• Cast aluminum cylinder block with high-endurance/low-friction plasma-sprayed bores.
• IHI twin turbochargers, one per cylinder bank.
• Pressurized lubrication system with thermostatically controlled cooling.

[ZenSilk]

OooO damn that is fuckin sexy-licious.

[Scheetz]

Still way overpriced and looks like a 350z had sex with an altima.

[RayVer]

might look like a 350z until you pop the hood and step inside

[TheScotsman]

Still way overpriced and looks like a 350z had sex with an altima.

I think it's proof nissan hired all the unemployed Chrysler designers responsible for some of that fugly junk they have been molesting showroom floors with the past few years.

What do you expect for a car company named after a noodle factory.

[MechAnt]

Lets see your ride beat one

[Scheetz]

Lets see your ride beat one

A $200 civic and $5,000 can destroy that.

Mind you it may not look good doing so.

[mdl]

They should have kept the original face deisgn. Pretty sweet none-the-less.

[poopooshaboo]

That thing is bloody fucking ugly.

[MechAnt]

Lets see your ride beat one

A $200 civic and $5,000 can destroy that.

Mind you it may not look good doing so.

$5000 wont even get you a decent sized turbo let alone cams, forged pistons (that can take the load of the turbo), new fuel pump and injectors, pulleys, ECU, transmission that can handle the power, stage 2 clutch, and anything else necessary. Please, civic with $20K can't even match the HP numbers plus, they are front wheel drive. Edited October 27, 2007 by MechAnt

[TheScotsman]

That thing is bloody fucking ugly.

Come on, man, tell us you you REALLY feel

[Scheetz]

$5000 wont even get you a decent sized turbo let alone cams, forged pistons (that can take the load of the turbo), new fuel pump and injectors, pulleys, ECU, transmission that can handle the power, stage 2 clutch, and anything else necessary. Please, civic with $20K can't even match the HP numbers plus, they are front wheel drive.

Huh? What kind of turbo are you buying that runs you over $5000. T3 will run you $600 tops, everything else is easily handled. A $20k built motor will have you running far better numbers than that Nissan. We are talking about building Hondas not an Audi. This is just a matter of horsepower we are talking. Weight is a considerable factor as the civic will need far less HP then 500 to equal its numbers.

[TheScotsman]

I would dearly LOVE to race one of those ramen-riders. Preferably in a standing 1/8th, but anything would be fine... nothing like watching some embarased import-racer-wannabe act like you are invisible at the next stoplight .


Just out of curiosity, when they measure HP on those pip-squeak motors, are they measured in shetland poines or maybe glue-factory nags? that sure isn't real-world SHP!

[Scheetz]

Just out of curiosity, when they measure HP on those pip-squeak motors, are they measured in shetland poines or maybe glue-factory nags? that sure isn't real-world SHP!

Nope and it never is. They always claim it makes more than it does. You take a stock car and dyno it on a mustang dyno and its atleast 10hp less than the manufacture claims. In the case of the Rx8 it only puts down 35-40hp less than Mazda claims. Quite sad really, they said it makes a certain amount and then you dyno it yourself to find out you are 40 hp lower.

[MechAnt]

Its because published HP numbers are from the crank. Dyno numbers are wheel horse power which takes into account drive train loss. Some companies underrate their numbers such as Dodge with their SRT-4's. It actually comes out more than even the published numbers.

[Scheetz]

Its because published HP numbers are from the crank. Dyno numbers are wheel horse power which takes into account drive train loss. Some companies underrate their numbers such as Dodge with their SRT-4's. It actually comes out more than even the published numbers.

Not all of them are by the crank. Mazda claimed it at the wheels.

[Bulldog_916]

I like it, it's a freakin hot car.

I still like the original 2003 350Z...more curvy. With intake and exhaust mods, sounds like a monster. My ex-boss owns a 2006 model and I hated it...it doesnt have the same muscle.

I'm more of a truck guy. 2004 Nissan Frontier V6 Crew Cab SOLAR YELLOW.....-sigh-, like heaven with a leather interior....

[Johnny_D]

oh dear.

I sat behind something like that the other day in the traffic

What's the bloody point? Oil prices going through the roof, Insurance fast behind it. Traffic build up's most of the day long.

JD

[ghostofdavid]

I'm still lusting after the six year or so Subaru Imprezas. Hey, at least I'm driving a car made in this century this time. But not for long.

[Bulldog_916]

oh dear.

I sat behind something like that the other day in the traffic

What's the bloody point? Oil prices going through the roof, Insurance fast behind it. Traffic build up's most of the day long.

JD

I gotta be able to tow my boat. Plus I like offroading. If you spend a long time in your car, might as well like it, gas prices going nuts or not. If you got the cash, spend it i suppose.

[TheScotsman]

Its because published HP numbers are from the crank. Dyno numbers are wheel horse power which takes into account drive train loss. Some companies underrate their numbers such as Dodge with their SRT-4's. It actually comes out more than even the published numbers.

Actually it's because the numbers are inflated by the marketing dept. It has long been known that the Asian builders have their hand on the scale every time they test an engine. Their numbers reflect a THEORETICAL maximum, under ideal conditions, at sea level, and with fuel optimized for that particular engine, and no accessories at all. European makers used a more stringent DIN, and North American builders went even a step further with SAE's standard. I guarantee this engine won't see those numbers with "SAE certified" behind them. SAE requires a dyno net BHP rating, as the engine is installed. Running from it's own alternator, turning it's own water pump, emissions pump, and with the exhaust-intake plumbing in place. Dynos can be either crank, or RW. It is more common to find engine dynos, even an armature hot-rodder like me can afford one. Chassis dynos are big $, and require specialized installation.

Back in the era of the muscle cars the big-3 were severely under-rating HP in an attempt to keep the cars insurable, there seems to be a bit of a return to that practice with some of the newer performance models. I think the insurance-nazis are harder to fool these days.