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so my school is suspending me because they found a Syrian Hookah in my room, and are classifying it as drug paraphernalia. pretty crass shit.
i'm trying to appeal it by saying it isn't used for weed and also for cultural discrimination (i am mediterranean)

i am kind of stuck in a hole here, does anyone have any ideas of what i can do?
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QUOTE (Bazzi @ Oct 26 2007, 11:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
so my school is suspending me because they found a Syrian Hookah in my room, and are classifying it as drug paraphernalia. pretty crass shit.
i'm trying to appeal it by saying it isn't used for weed and also for cultural discrimination (i am mediterranean)

i am kind of stuck in a hole here, does anyone have any ideas of what i can do?


1. Take the bolded word out.
2. It is considered paraphanalia.
3. Show them a wikipedia page on hookah.
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well you see, i researched my schools policies, and researched federal policies that of Connecticut, and the U.S. health and safety codes under paraphernalia laws and nothing states that a hookah is paraphernalia. i've been printing article after article on hookah and its history and traditions so hopefully i won't need further measures, but thank you both for the advice.
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have the local police station test your bowl, all your bowls for residue, when it comes up negative send it to your Dean of Students.

or offer to do a drug test.
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that's fucking retarded. A hookah isn't any more drug paraphernalia than a pipe is, or even rolling papers, and it really shouldn't be a problem as long as you're 18. If they don't listen to you I would threaten to fight it in court, there's no way that their argument could hold up... If worst comes to worst, you could even threaten to sue, because that is a load of bullshit.
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so it was room inspections, which i wasn't aware about (i had an emergency back in Oregon) and they ripped my room apart, literally. $100 silk ties thrown on the floor like trash. my room looks like a bomb went off and they didn't put anything back. they also took all 3 of my tobacco pipes and all my premium cigars, and pipe tobacco. everything. you can smoke marijuana just about out of anything these days. rolling papers are sold in head shops too but no one looks down upon those.... it upsets me how arrogant people can be. my college is also the most international in the country. we have a whole dorm complex for Indian students...WHERE THE HOOKAH ORIGINATED. and still, they are pulling this zero tolerance nonsense.

thank you guys again for your reccomendations and your support. i really appreciate it.
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You should have a million boxes delivered to their house, whoever searched your room. You can have boxes delivered by going onto the USPS website or something like that. For free.

Or hire ninjas to assassinate their families, but if that doesn't work court/lawsuits might be your only option.
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No don't let them look at the wikipedia page, i'm sure there's something there about other stuff they pot in there in India...

i don't know how you will get out of this one. Are you 18?

Edit: Nevermind you are, the only way i can htink of is to explain it. But schools don;t seem to listen that often. Edited by ZenSilk
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QUOTE (Scheetz @ Oct 26 2007, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Um, if hookah is not specified in the student handbook then you have a right to bitch. Now if it does state hookah then you cant.


Couldn't you have them simply smell your equipment? If nothing smells like illegal substances then they have no legitimate reason to seize your hookah or impose any diciplinary measures upon you.
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QUOTE (greatchez @ Oct 27 2007, 03:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Scheetz @ Oct 26 2007, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Um, if hookah is not specified in the student handbook then you have a right to bitch. Now if it does state hookah then you cant.


Couldn't you have them simply smell your equipment? If nothing smells like illegal substances then they have no legitimate reason to seize your hookah or impose any diciplinary measures upon you.



You could try. My college has hookah specifically stated now. It didnt before but some kids got busted for using it with drugs. Now they listed the hookah in the handbook as being banned from campus/dorm.
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I don't have to even look up Connecticut law regarding search and seizure policy for housing to know you have grounds for a civic case. I am appalled that any university or college would be so foolish as to assume that they are within their rights to confiscate property and act upon said property without having secured proof (or at least overwhelming evidence) to its legality or lack thereof. Whether or not the threat of law suit would work for you, I wouldn't be so sure, large organizations tend to have a knee-jerk reaction to lawsuit threats. I think your best bet would be to issue a statement to them of some kind clarifying your properties legality, and asking for a re-consideration of the suspension, and then making a run to your district court and getting into contact with an attorney. I'm unsure of how Connecticut works in regards to public defense, but I'm sure a little poking around there would do you some good. Edited by Geiseric
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QUOTE (Geiseric @ Oct 27 2007, 12:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't have to even look up Connecticut law regarding search and seizure policy for housing to know you have grounds for a civic case. I am appalled that any university or college would be so foolish as to assume that they are within their rights to confiscate property and act upon said property without having secured proof (or at least overwhelming evidence) to its legality or lack thereof.




uuuh, have you ever lived in a dorm? you literally have no rights. if they want to search your room, they can. if they find something that's out of the ordinary and under any circumstance could be seen as paraphanelia, they can. it's all written out in the housing contract you sign when you move in. now, basically the only thing you can do is raise a fuss, bitch, and pull the race card.

good luck with this though, i'm sorry that anyone has to go through this...
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i had a simmiller problem in my university when i was in a dorm. Just complain , the race card should work for you. Admittally they didnt raid my room for my shisha they raided it because i was making my own beer in it. In the end they gave up and they looked into it a bit
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I did at one point live in a dorm, yes. I also got the hell out for that very same reason. However, one cannot deny the illegitimate nature of their verdict, and as such despite that a federal law enforcing a "one strike" policy still holds to this day despite constant challenges (giving property owners the right to evict tenants that are without knowledge of drug use in or near the property) you did not do enough to warrant even that. Their fault comes in that they made a decision without substantial evidence. I still believe as such you have a good change of making a legal challenge.
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QUOTE (Geiseric @ Oct 27 2007, 06:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't have to even look up Connecticut law regarding search and seizure policy for housing to know you have grounds for a civic case. I am appalled that any university or college would be so foolish as to assume that they are within their rights to confiscate property and act upon said property without having secured proof (or at least overwhelming evidence) to its legality or lack thereof. Whether or not the threat of law suit would work for you, I wouldn't be so sure, large organizations tend to have a knee-jerk reaction to lawsuit threats. I think your best bet would be to issue a statement to them of some kind clarifying your properties legality, and asking for a re-consideration of the suspension, and then making a run to your district court and getting into contact with an attorney. I'm unsure of how Connecticut works in regards to public defense, but I'm sure a little poking around there would do you some good.


yea. at the dorms they are aloud to come in and look around, but they are not aloud to touch anything or open anything up.. even your fridge or drawers!
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QUOTE (ASUSEAN1 @ Oct 27 2007, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yea. at the dorms they are aloud to come in and look around, but they are not aloud to touch anything or open anything up.. even your fridge or drawers!


Thats how mine was. Its the same for police, they can check what they can see but can not go looking without permission or in the case of police a warrant.
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QUOTE (Scheetz @ Oct 27 2007, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ASUSEAN1 @ Oct 27 2007, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yea. at the dorms they are aloud to come in and look around, but they are not aloud to touch anything or open anything up.. even your fridge or drawers!


Thats how mine was. Its the same for police, they can check what they can see but can not go looking without permission or in the case of police a warrant.



in my college the RA's can look in your fridge or anywhere else, if they have reason to believe you ahve booze or stuff in there, but it's ad ry campus, and thats why. also its a private college
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