MagicHookahs Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Hello, I concider myself extremely knowledgable about hookahs in general. I have always conidered the top quality models to be Egyptian. Syrian hookahs recieve alot of hype and I jsut never really knew the specific difference.Hope you guys can help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boulderkid303 Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 Egyptians are the best pipes in the world. And im not even being bias, because I am egyption lol. I own many pipes. 10 total. Only got 1 egyptian and the reason being is because once you buy one it lasts a lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenSilk Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Theres so many posts on this.Search "Egyptian vs. Syrian".Basically.. If you like funcionality(Sometimes there can be aomething wrong) & tradition - EgyptianIf you like functionality & perfection - SyrianEgyptians are hand-made. Syriand aren't.Egyptians are cheaper, Syrians are more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boulderkid303 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 And the fact egyptians are like 20XXXXXXXXXXXXXX better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.ryan Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 QUOTE (boulderkid303 @ Nov 9 2007, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>And the fact egyptians are like 20XXXXXXXXXXXXXX better.Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeSearchOff Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 its all aesthetics.i find that egyptians, when the right ones, own face. too much risk of impurities or flaws, though. i.e: i own three egyptians. 1 of them owns face, the other smokes pretty good, and the last one... well i can get nice thick clouds but only sometimes and it requires alot of tinkering. i own a mya and a witch (machine-made) and they smoke amazing every time. my syrian i have only smoked once, i never get the chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaia.plateau Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 QUOTE (MagicHookahs @ Nov 9 2007, 05:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hello, I concider myself extremely knowledgable about hookahs in general. I have always conidered the top quality models to be Egyptian. Syrian hookahs recieve alot of hype and I jsut never really knew the specific difference.Hope you guys can help.I've smoked out of maybe 2 dozen Egyptian hookahs and perhaps a dozen Syrian ones. Honestly, I haven't found there to be tremendous amounts of difference in practice, but I found that Syrians require you to draw a little harder, and give you better smoke. I have very powerful lungs, so this is one of the reasons that I prefer Syrian.Moreover, I have found Egyptian pipes to be, well, boring. I haven't seen many that deviate from the standard model, and since appearance means a lot to me this is another reason that I prefer Syrian. Syrians are also taller, which I appreciate when I'm smoking with other people because it gives the pipe more presence in the room. This is the third and final reason that I prefer Syrian pipes. I'm pretty new here and haven't read any of the posts that ZenSilk mentioned... this is just my experience. I'm guessing that the majority of the people that like Syrian hookahs better either only own and/or have smoked from Syrian hookahs, are from Syria/Iran/Iraq, or simply started on Syrian hookahs. I imagine that the same is true of the majority of people that prefer Egyptian hookahs. So my last recommendation is to largely disregard highly subjective advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boulderkid303 Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 Look at the line of egyptians Vs. Syrians. From top to bottom Egyptians are better. In price, look, and quality. I dunno where you came up with saying syrians are taller? I dont think that can be proven. QUOTE (gaia.plateau @ Nov 10 2007, 09:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (MagicHookahs @ Nov 9 2007, 05:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hello, I concider myself extremely knowledgable about hookahs in general. I have always conidered the top quality models to be Egyptian. Syrian hookahs recieve alot of hype and I jsut never really knew the specific difference.Hope you guys can help.I've smoked out of maybe 2 dozen Egyptian hookahs and perhaps a dozen Syrian ones. Honestly, I haven't found there to be tremendous amounts of difference in practice, but I found that Syrians require you to draw a little harder, and give you better smoke. I have very powerful lungs, so this is one of the reasons that I prefer Syrian.Moreover, I have found Egyptian pipes to be, well, boring. I haven't seen many that deviate from the standard model, and since appearance means a lot to me this is another reason that I prefer Syrian. Syrians are also taller, which I appreciate when I'm smoking with other people because it gives the pipe more presence in the room. This is the third and final reason that I prefer Syrian pipes. I'm pretty new here and haven't read any of the posts that ZenSilk mentioned... this is just my experience. I'm guessing that the majority of the people that like Syrian hookahs better either only own and/or have smoked from Syrian hookahs, are from Syria/Iran/Iraq, or simply started on Syrian hookahs. I imagine that the same is true of the majority of people that prefer Egyptian hookahs. So my last recommendation is to largely disregard highly subjective advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SafeSearchOff Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 i dont see where you get off saying egyptians look better. they have the exact same construct... every single time. that stupid like umbrella look up and down the stem.its all opinion. no one can say "this is better because". in the end, do egyptian and syrian hookahs:smoke tobacco? do we enjoy them? to anyone, are they aesthetically pleasing?its liek saying "what do you like better, granny apples, or macintosh's?" yeah, you can be a dick and be like "well one is sweeter" or "the other is more tart" but in the end, theyre still frieking apples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oolatec Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 QUOTE (boulderkid303 @ Nov 10 2007, 07:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Look at the line of egyptians Vs. Syrians. From top to bottom Egyptians are better. In price, look, and quality.Very debatable. I have 2 Syrians, but have smoked out of many an Egyptian. They both smoke well, but Syrians tend to be more ornate and original in appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estariol Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 Aesthetically syrians tend to be more pleasing and original in their designs in my opinion. They often have intricate styling and patterning on the stem. Egyptians on the other hand are solid, and not especially beautiful.In regards to their construction Egyptians bowls are female and the stem fits into the vase with a grommet (also found on many syrians). Syrians, on the other hand, have a male bowl that fits into the stem (see hookahook.com hookahs) and a stem that screws OVER the vase top. You will often find variations in this but strictly speaking that's the difference. Many intricately designed hookahs are called syrians because of their design despite being of egyptian fitting (eg. female bowl).Therefore hookahs can be called syrian or egyptian either because of their design or more strictly because of their fitting construction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceCreamCakes Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 how dumb can we get guys?? this is all a matter of opinion !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookah hippie Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 Everyone is entitled to their opinion no matter how wrong it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenSilk Posted November 11, 2007 Share Posted November 11, 2007 Not necessarily all opinion. Some Egyptians suck ass, because they are made poorly. There can be Syrians that are made shitty as well, only it is less likely because they are built by machines.The Egyptian hookahs available on the US market are nothing special. Sooner or later they will rust, and the solders can easily break. The stems can be dented, bent, discolored, and thin. Now, if all Egyptian hookahs were made of brass, there would be no room to complain, the only thing that could make the hookah smoke poorly is bad craftsmanship. That's why i prefer Syrians at this current point in time. They are durable, heavy, perfectly built, and you know it will be free of imperfections when you purchase one. If Egyptian hookahs on the US market stepped it up a notch and went to brass, maybe i'd prefer one of those.You can't base a hookah off "How well it smokes". That part is all the smoker. Not the hookah. if they can't set it up right, and keep up the heat, then they could make any hookah smoke poorly. I can get a pumpkin to smoke rather boldly, so when i use an Egyptian and Syrian hookah, i can't go wrong. The differences between these hookahs is how they are built, not how they smoke. If you want hardcore tradition minus perfection (in most cases) then you will buy an Egyptian, and it will smoke amazing.IF you want perfection and durability and Brass, then you will buy a Syrian, and it will smoek amazing. Smoke is all up to you. Not the hookah you buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jshenrikson Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 QUOTE (ZenSilk @ Nov 11 2007, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Not necessarily all opinion. Some Egyptians suck ass, because they are made poorly. There can be Syrians that are made shitty as well, only it is less likely because they are built by machines.The Egyptian hookahs available on the US market are nothing special. Sooner or later they will rust, and the solders can easily break. The stems can be dented, bent, discolored, and thin. Now, if all Egyptian hookahs were made of brass, there would be no room to complain, the only thing that could make the hookah smoke poorly is bad craftsmanship. That's why i prefer Syrians at this current point in time. They are durable, heavy, perfectly built, and you know it will be free of imperfections when you purchase one. If Egyptian hookahs on the US market stepped it up a notch and went to brass, maybe i'd prefer one of those.You can't base a hookah off "How well it smokes". That part is all the smoker. Not the hookah. if they can't set it up right, and keep up the heat, then they could make any hookah smoke poorly. I can get a pumpkin to smoke rather boldly, so when i use an Egyptian and Syrian hookah, i can't go wrong. The differences between these hookahs is how they are built, not how they smoke. If you want hardcore tradition minus perfection (in most cases) then you will buy an Egyptian, and it will smoke amazing.IF you want perfection and durability and Brass, then you will buy a Syrian, and it will smoek amazing. Smoke is all up to you. Not the hookah you buy.Hey ZenSilk,Maybe this is a little off topic, but what do you think of the Syrian Snake on H-S? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estariol Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 QUOTE (Jshenrikson @ Nov 12 2007, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (ZenSilk @ Nov 11 2007, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You can't base a hookah off "How well it smokes". That part is all the smoker. Not the hookah. if they can't set it up right, and keep up the heat, then they could make any hookah smoke poorly. I can get a pumpkin to smoke rather boldly, so when i use an Egyptian and Syrian hookah, i can't go wrong. The differences between these hookahs is how they are built, not how they smoke. If you want hardcore tradition minus perfection (in most cases) then you will buy an Egyptian, and it will smoke amazing.IF you want perfection and durability and Brass, then you will buy a Syrian, and it will smoek amazing. Smoke is all up to you. Not the hookah you buy.Hey ZenSilk,Maybe this is a little off topic, but what do you think of the Syrian Snake on H-S? Zen's right the qualtiy of smoke is largely based on the skill of the smoker. Lot's of practice, a decent hookah, and a little luck will yield a better smoke than a really expensive 'awesome' hookah and a narghilé n00b. henrikson, although it's not for me, i like the engineer and the glyph much better than the snake - even though it's nice too. i've been angling at an engineer for a while hopefully i'll get one sometime. What draws you to the snake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyt Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 I think it just depends on the specific pipe. In general pipes on the US market are weak, but there are some decent ones both on the Egyptian and the Syrian side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenSilk Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 QUOTE (Jshenrikson @ Nov 11 2007, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (ZenSilk @ Nov 11 2007, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Not necessarily all opinion. Some Egyptians suck ass, because they are made poorly. There can be Syrians that are made shitty as well, only it is less likely because they are built by machines.The Egyptian hookahs available on the US market are nothing special. Sooner or later they will rust, and the solders can easily break. The stems can be dented, bent, discolored, and thin. Now, if all Egyptian hookahs were made of brass, there would be no room to complain, the only thing that could make the hookah smoke poorly is bad craftsmanship. That's why i prefer Syrians at this current point in time. They are durable, heavy, perfectly built, and you know it will be free of imperfections when you purchase one. If Egyptian hookahs on the US market stepped it up a notch and went to brass, maybe i'd prefer one of those.You can't base a hookah off "How well it smokes". That part is all the smoker. Not the hookah. if they can't set it up right, and keep up the heat, then they could make any hookah smoke poorly. I can get a pumpkin to smoke rather boldly, so when i use an Egyptian and Syrian hookah, i can't go wrong. The differences between these hookahs is how they are built, not how they smoke. If you want hardcore tradition minus perfection (in most cases) then you will buy an Egyptian, and it will smoke amazing.IF you want perfection and durability and Brass, then you will buy a Syrian, and it will smoek amazing. Smoke is all up to you. Not the hookah you buy.Hey ZenSilk,Maybe this is a little off topic, but what do you think of the Syrian Snake on H-S?I actually almost bought it for myself. Until i realized i need a 3 hose hookah. But the stem on the snake is My Favorite, tied with the green and gold 30" on the same site that he's only ever carried 2 of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jshenrikson Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 QUOTE (Estariol @ Nov 11 2007, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Jshenrikson @ Nov 12 2007, 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (ZenSilk @ Nov 11 2007, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>You can't base a hookah off "How well it smokes". That part is all the smoker. Not the hookah. if they can't set it up right, and keep up the heat, then they could make any hookah smoke poorly. I can get a pumpkin to smoke rather boldly, so when i use an Egyptian and Syrian hookah, i can't go wrong. The differences between these hookahs is how they are built, not how they smoke. If you want hardcore tradition minus perfection (in most cases) then you will buy an Egyptian, and it will smoke amazing.IF you want perfection and durability and Brass, then you will buy a Syrian, and it will smoek amazing. Smoke is all up to you. Not the hookah you buy.Hey ZenSilk,Maybe this is a little off topic, but what do you think of the Syrian Snake on H-S? Zen's right the qualtiy of smoke is largely based on the skill of the smoker. Lot's of practice, a decent hookah, and a little luck will yield a better smoke than a really expensive 'awesome' hookah and a narghilé n00b. henrikson, although it's not for me, i like the engineer and the glyph much better than the snake - even though it's nice too. i've been angling at an engineer for a while hopefully i'll get one sometime. What draws you to the snake?I don't know, I really like the stem on it like ZenSilk I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicHookahs Posted November 12, 2007 Author Share Posted November 12, 2007 Thats one thing that really amazes me about Egyptian and Syrian hookahs, the fact that when they are compared to Chinese or American hookahs, they completeley blow them out of the water. The brass stem on my egyptian hookah is so rugged its unbelievable... On the other hand, I have a chinese hookah whos stem broke during the 2nd month of usage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateNinja415 Posted November 12, 2007 Share Posted November 12, 2007 I've been eyeing the engineer from H-S for a while. I'll probably buy it when i get a job, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicHookahs Posted November 12, 2007 Author Share Posted November 12, 2007 I also think that I am impartial to the cultural history of the Egyptian hookah. It tells more of a story then one cranked out of a machine. I feel that the imperfections of some Egyptian hookahs truely add character and make each pipe one of a kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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