Shisha-Emirates Havana Ma’assel Reviews..

[Mathazar]

When I started these reviews,  I NEVER said that I was going to
promote this product or Shisha-Emirates.  Quite to the
contrary,  I said I would give honest reviews,  and that's
EXACTLY what I did.  Would you have preferred that I lied in my
reviews,  and told everyone how FANTASTIC this stuff is?

Yes,  Anthony WAS kind enough to Overnight me the samples, 
for which I never publicly thanked him for,  and for that I AM
sorry!

I don't really care whatever it is I glowingly said in the past about
Shisha-Emirates,  my stance now,  on the owners, 
Anthony & Richard,  is that they're GREAT guys!!! 
But,  I'm not going to publicly admit to the forum members that I
think this stuff is premium ma'assel worth spending $23 for,  when
it's NOT!!!  Havana ma'assel is NO better than Al-Fakher which
Shisha-Emirates is charging 250g for $13.49.  With the exception
of their Special Grape and Lemon,  I would not want to pay more
than what they're charging for Al-Fakher,  because,  and I
STAND 100% behind this statement,  I believe Shisha-Emirates is
over-charging for the Havana ma'assel.  It's their right to do
so,  and if people want to pay double for what could only be
considered an above average ma'assel,  then to them I say:

Feel Free To Waste Your Money.

I apologise to Shisha-Emirates for trashing their pricing,  but
I'd rather have forum members understand EXACTLY what their paying
for,  rather than lie to them and let them find out on their own
that Havana is NOT premium ma'assel. 

After making this statement,  I don't think the owners of
Shisha-Emirates are going to want to talk to me again,  but they
told me to post HONEST reviews,  and that's EXACTLY what I
did.  And the statement I made about Havana NOT being worth what
Shisha-Emirates is charging for it is SOLEY my opinion having sampled
the stuff,  I just want to state the TRUTH as I see
it.

If it seems as though I'm trashing Shisha-Emirates by stating that
they're over-charging customers,  then for that I'm sorry. 
But,  the fact remains that at this moment in time, 
Shisha-Emirates is the HIGHEST PRICED online company in the industry
from what I can tell. 

I'm sorry if it seemed like I was promoting them before I did my
reviews.  If I promoted them,  it was merely because I
thought the owners, Anthony & Richard were FANTASTIC guys that
deserved a chance to be recognized as a NEW company worthy of people's
attention.  But now,  I still think their GREAT guys, 
but they should LOWER their prices.  I feel kinda bad saying these
things about Shisha-Emirates,  but sometimes you just have to
speak the truth,  and often times the TRUTH hurts. 
Shisha-Emirates should slash their prices on Havana Ma'assel. 
That's my opinion,  and I'm sticking to it 

[great glavin]

[quote name='mushrat']Math:
Not to mention they were kind enough to give you a bunch of free stuff for hawking their products. Too bad you actual opinions don't match your earlier glowing recomendations of many of the same products.  
Its also unfortunate that you don't see any problem with having been a walking advertisement for products you later said weren't any good. So much for credibility. So I ask again, you going to refund anyone who bought stuff on your earlier glowing endorsements that you now say aren't worth smoking?
Your signature should start bearing a disclaimer about being a paid endorser.[/quote]
I'm pretty sure they gave math free samples knowing he'd rate them and tell everyone on the forum about it. Voila, a small investment for instant business. Maths ratings of the ma'assel ive had from havana are dead on too, in fact, certain things he rated even lower then i did. Also, if anyone went out and purchased any havana based solely on maths earlier pre-tasted havana excitement and not the hard numbers, they like whipping money around as is, so it doesnt really matter. 
It doesnt really look like hes plugging a brand very well if hes rating it 3's 4's and 5's.
Shisha-emirates could have just as easily told math to f**k off when he asked for free samples, but they didnt, they also went and changed their prices at forum outcry while maintaining a strong stance on the quality of their product. Any company that both looks at customers needs and concerns, and goes about the best way to resolve them is an alright company by me, regardless of how steep their prices are. (hookah shisha esque steep m8).

[Mathazar]

Thanks,  great glavin,  but I never "asked for free
samples",  they offered the free samples to me and asked me if I
would review them 

[jmexx]

But... I don't mean to bash shisha-emirates or to promote another site, but southsmoke.com seems to have the same havana ma'assel for a little less then half the price... Just thought I should share with the rest of you guys.Happy smoking!Jon

[great glavin]

[quote name='Mathazar']Thanks,  great glavin,  but I never "asked for free samples",  they offered the free samples to me and asked me if I would review them [/quote]
huh, thats interesting. I assumed differently, oh well.
 
 
If Southsmoke sells it for half the price, ill buy it from them.

[mushrat]

 
[color="#0000ff"]"When I started these reviews,  I NEVER said that I was going to promote this product or Shisha-Emirates.  Quite to the contrary,  I said I would give honest reviews,  and that's EXACTLY what I did.  Would you have preferred that I lied in my reviews,  and told everyone how FANTASTIC this stuff is?"
YOU WANNA TRY THAT AGAIN MATH? BACK TO THE ORIGINAL POST:
"That's right,  for helping promote their website in this forum, the owner of the company Richard is sending me free samples of these flavors:Bahraini Apple (supposed to have no licorice flavor)Eskandarani AppleSpecial Apple ( suppose to be a lot stronger and more sour than Eskandarani Apple)GrapefruitSpecial Grape ( no idea what that's going to taste like )Strawberry Lemon&BananaPretty AWESOME deal these guys are giving me.I had a very nice phone conversation with Rich,  and he said that he was not trying to defend his company in his response in the thread yesterday,  but merely try to respond to the accusations that Havana Ma'assel was cheap tobacco, and to try to make sense out of the pricing so that we could understand that their is a lot of OVERHEAD involved with obtaining this ma'assel.  He said that there are taxes,  and shipping charges,  and Customer Service they have to cover, etc...etc..., The bottom line being that they're goal is to make Shisha-Emirates a Customer Service Company where the Customer is VERY well looked after.  And that costs money.  So,  I'm not quoting Rich word for word,  but from the conversation I had with him,  I sensed that he has a very honorable character and lots of integrity,  and that's what they're trying to establish for their company.  The want to establish a Customer Satisfaction Company.  So,  I say give these guys a break.  They're less than one week old,  and already they're off to a pretty good start with some attractive hookahs and what could potentially be some AWESOME ma'assel.  I'm also going to order a 250g box of their ATI Double Apple for $50,  because I'm a Double Apple fanatic,  and I want to taste something different than Romman which is very good,  but I'm a little tired of it."
NOT TO MENTION THE 2 OR 3 TIMES YOU GAVE THEIR FULL RUN DOWN OF FLAVOURS COMPLETE WITH COMMENTS LIKE "YUMMY". BEFORE YOU EVEN HAD THEM TO SMOKE.
And Galvin, you hit it right on the head, a small investment in Math by promising him samples, and he's pushing the stuff like its an old friend. If the folks from Shisha-Emerates wrote what Math did, as many times as he did, before even trying it we'da been on them like we were the guy from Genuinehookah. And the fact that his earlier glowing remarks actually didn't compare with true quality of the product just makes the whole thing stink.
 
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[Mathazar]

Look,  I'm not going to argue the point with you,  I'm WAY to
tired right now to invest any energy into this debate that you have
taken upon yourself to begin.  As far as I'm concerned,  the
debate ends here.  Whatever it was I said before tasting the
samples was in good conscience because I wanted to help a new company
get off it's feet.

I told them I would sample the product and review it for them.  I
reviewed them honestly and accurately.  At this point in time, I
don't believe that Havana is a "Deluxe" Premium product worthy of
charging $23 for.  I'm stating this CLEARLY so that forum members
know that they are being over-charged for what could only be considered
an above average ma'assel.  I put it in the ranks of Al-Fakher,
though with Al-Fakher you'll get a much longer smoke than with
Havana.  I think the guys at Shisha-Emirates are honest and just
trying to make a living,  but it needs to be pointed-out that they
are over-charging for their Havana ma'assel.

With that said,  early this morning I placed an order with
SouthSmoke for 1250grams of Havana Special Grape,  500grams of
Havana Lemon,  250grams of Al-Fakher Lemon,  and 250grams of
AF Plum.  It cost me $9.99 per 250g containers of both AF &
Havana,  and with Overnight shipping,  it all came out to
approx $150.  Do you know what that order would have cost at
Shisha-Emirates? Pfft.........I'm not going to back a company that
overcharges for their products,  whether they send me free samples
to review or not.

Like I said,  mush,  you can question my credibility ALL YOU WANT!!! 

But,  the simple fact of the matter is that.........I REALLY DON'T
CARE.  I don't care if you question my credibility, and I don't
care who listens to me and who doesn't.  I did what I said I was
going to do,  and I reviewed the Havana Ma'assel.  It didn't
meet to my satisfaction the way that I previously HOPED it would, 
and I'm not going to allow forum members to be misled into believing
they're getting a great deal by shopping thru Shisha-Emirates, 
when quite frankly,  they can get it cheaper elsewhere