Dawgster Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 Hey guy's. I have been searching throughout the forum looking at the opinons of everyone in regards to the subject or using foil vs Screen's. So far i haven't been too impressed with using the screeen so am thinking of using foil instead. However i am a bit concerned with using standard kitchen foil over the proper dedicated foil available for hookah's? From what i can see most of you who are using foil seem to be using standard household stuff, but is this worse for you than using the proper foil? What's the difference between the two? Peace ... Dawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypress Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 The difference is household has a lining on one side of it that makes it shiny. Hookah foils dont have them. As far as which one is safer I dont know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uselessdreamer1 Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 what does excessive metles in the body do anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 heavy metal poisoning? KILL YOU. Found this on a quick search: [url="http://www.amershamhealth.com/medcyclopaedia/medical/Volume%20III%201/ALUMINIUM%20POISONING.ASP"] [url="http://www.amershamhealth.com/medcyclopaedia/medical/Volume%"]http://www.amershamhealth.com/medcyclopaed...medical/Volume%[/url][/url] 20III%201/ALUMINIUM%20POISONING.ASP Working with the screens takes a little practice, but once you get it right for the specific ma'asell brand, you'll never go back to foil. $.02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 household foil is toxic when placed into direct contact with prolonged heat. doesn't hurt you when you cook with it but when inhaling it is not a happy thing. Like most unhappy things its not going to put you in the ground tonight, but if you used it every day it will have detrimental effects. please just use the hookah foils, besides they are already precut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted August 16, 2005 Share Posted August 16, 2005 I'm stickin with screens. They're reuseable and resonably inexpenceive in proportion to the times used. Besides, an excess of aluminum in the body can cause alzheimer's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmexx Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 I've been using foil for a real long time and I'm looking for an alternative. I tried those screen, they're absolutely rancid, no smoke and you have charcoal spilling through the GIANT holes. I'm sure, rather then having to order the precut foils, that there's a household version of that foil some where out there. Maybe the cheaper ones? I don't know, but I need to find out for a more convenient way to smoke. The best would be to get the ceramic bowl with the ceramic cover, but I don't have 30 something US to spend on it. Anyways, my 2 cents,Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Deere Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 [quote name='cypress']The difference is household has a lining on one side of it that makes it shiny. Hookah foils dont have them. As far as which one is safer I dont know. [/quote] the kind I use (social smoke) has a shiny side, and its thinner than reg. foil. From what I hear, household foil has chemicals on it to make it nonstick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dikydave Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 i met a guy online selling glass bowls and screens, havnt ordered any yet but they sound like a hell of an idea, ill post reviews of them if i ever buy some, only like 20$ he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgster Posted August 17, 2005 Author Share Posted August 17, 2005 O.k. Today i thought i'd give in. So i packed my bowl with some Al Fakher Apple and covered this with some foil. WOW!!!!! That's all i can say. What a smoke i had. Smoke was thick and White with a taste like Apple Pie. Compared to using a screen this was a vaste improvement. Peace ... Dawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahwahoo2006 Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 Is hookah foil made of something other than aluminum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyteboy Posted August 17, 2005 Share Posted August 17, 2005 I agree completely with mush....really the secret with screens is just using a little more heat than you would with foil since the holes in the screen are bigger and farther apart... I get gorgeous clouds of white, thick, flavorful smoke with my screen, it just took some practice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmexx Posted August 18, 2005 Share Posted August 18, 2005 Well I want a flavourful,white, thick smoke NOW! Haha, I think I'll just stick with my foil, I used thin sh*tty foil once and the smoke was horrible. Alcan all the way? Heh, I unno. Happy smoking!Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonShisha Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Thought i'd revive this previous post. What is the consensus on using houshold foil, and what makes hookah foil any different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted November 7, 2005 Share Posted November 7, 2005 Cool idea. The hookah foils are supposed to be uncoated. Household foils are supposed to have some sort of coating on them, perhaps to keep food from sticking as badly, not sure. I have noticed nasty tastes coming of some off brand foils before. But I use a screen now so it's a moot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The French Are People Too Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Thought I'd throw in some URLs regarding the aluminium foil - Alzheimer's Disease connection. These do not represent my opinion on aluminium foil use with hookahs (I use both screens and foil, depending on what's closest at hand. As always, Your Mileage May Vary.[url="http://www.alzheimers.org.uk/Facts_about_dementia/Risk_factors/info_aluminium.htm"] [url="http://www.alzheimers.org.uk/Facts_about_dementia/Risk_facto"]http://www.alzheimers.org.uk/Facts_about_d...ntia/Risk_facto[/url][/url] rs/info_aluminium.htm [url="http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ewh-semt/water-eau/drink-potab/alumin"]http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ewh-semt/water-eau/...nk-potab/alumin[/url] um-aluminium_e.html[url="http://www.alzscot.org/pages/info/aluminium.htm"]http://www.alzscot.org/pages/info/aluminium.htm[/url][/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratman12304 Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Hey wyteboy or mushrat, since you guys seem to be able to get a good thick, flavorful smoke with a screen, any tips for us newbies not wanting to get aluminum poisining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 Its all in the coals. Heat control is the key and practice makes perfect. Be prepared to burn a bowl or two, but I suggest starting with a few chunks of coal add some until you get the smoke you like, if it starts to burn, remove some, lift the screen, make sure nothing is on fire, repeat. I know that doesn't help much really, but its how i got it right. I use bulk natural coal that i have to break up into chunks myself. But its probably just as easy with finger coals or quick lites. Brak them into smller pieces and start experimenting. Not recomended when you have friends over for a party mind you. Also keep in mind different ma'asells will require different levels of heat. Nakhla and HH require less heat, AF and Romman require a little more. You'll get the hang of it after a short while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted November 8, 2005 Share Posted November 8, 2005 you may also want to check out this thread [url="http://www.hookahforum.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1882&KW=metal"] [url="http://www.hookahforum.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1882&am"]http://www.hookahforum.com/forum/forum_pos...asp?TID=1882&am[/url][/url] p;KW=metal ..and follow the link in one of my posts to the thread about using the screen... [url="http://www.hookahforum.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1898&am"]http://www.hookahforum.com/forum/forum_pos...asp?TID=1898&am[/url] p;PN=1://http://www.hookahforum.com/forum/fo...8&am p;PN=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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