Common Chamber Vs 2-port Vs 4-port

[RayVer]

So I want everyones opinion on Common Chambers like on the Mya's and also 2 and 4 port chambers. What does everyone think? whats the good things and bad things of each design? what would you rather have..a common chamber like the Mya's or a 2 port like KM's?

[shisha fan]

a 2 port chamber, because the purge valve works better with that.

[EternalSoil]

The only thing i dont like about my MYA Chic is the common chamber. will not purge all the smoke out.

[ASUSEAN1]

2 port. purge works the best..

idk why u would actually like the open heart Edited November 29, 2007 by ASUSEAN1

[EternalSoil]

really stinks for me because i got the clear/frosted vase and it looks so cool when the smoke first starts going in.

[ZenSilk]

No difference. I have come tot hat conclusion. Theer is no difference. The onyl way to purge is with a 2 holed traditional heart. period. Common chamber hookas dont purge.

Each one gets the same amoutn of smoke. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. That's preposterous. If you don't wanna lsiten to me, then don't, but you should. Mya hearts are very open and wide and hollow, and most of the downstems are wider than average. You get an EXTREMELY large amount of smoke all at once with a Mya Stem.

With a 4 holed heart, like a JandR syrian... it's not exactly part of the heart. It's a plate that acts as a very simple diffuser for your smoke. The draw is harder, btu the smoke is the same.

2 holed hearts, as in Egyptians (most commonly), are perfect for purging, and MUCH easier to clean then Common Chamber hookahs.

4 holed hearts are just common chamber hookahs.

It's based on how easy you want the cleaning to be. With a Mya, the cleaning is extremely easy. You just stick a brush in there and scrub. On JandR (4 holes) it's hard to clean, as you have no way of getting into all the nooks and crannies with the plate blocking you. 2 hole hearts are very easy to clean, just use a pipe cleaner.

No one heart is better than the othe rin regards to smoke. Don't let yourself be lied to, and don't lie to yourself. If you want your smoke diffused, get a 4 holed heart, if you don't get a Mya or Egyptian. Simple as that.

[EternalSoil]

No difference. I have come tot hat conclusion. Theer is no difference. The onyl way to purge is with a 2 holed traditional heart. period. Common chamber hookas dont purge.

Each one gets the same amoutn of smoke. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. That's preposterous. If you don't wanna lsiten to me, then don't, but you should. Mya hearts are very open and wide and hollow, and most of the downstems are wider than average. You get an EXTREMELY large amount of smoke all at once with a Mya Stem.

With a 4 holed heart, like a JandR syrian... it's not exactly part of the heart. It's a plate that acts as a very simple diffuser for your smoke. The draw is harder, btu the smoke is the same.

2 holed hearts, as in Egyptians (most commonly), are perfect for purging, and MUCH easier to clean then Common Chamber hookahs.

4 holed hearts are just common chamber hookahs.

It's based on how easy you want the cleaning to be. With a Mya, the cleaning is extremely easy. You just stick a brush in there and scrub. On JandR (4 holes) it's hard to clean, as you have no way of getting into all the nooks and crannies with the plate blocking you. 2 hole hearts are very easy to clean, just use a pipe cleaner.

No one heart is better than the othe rin regards to smoke. Don't let yourself be lied to, and don't lie to yourself. If you want your smoke diffused, get a 4 holed heart, if you don't get a Mya or Egyptian. Simple as that.

that was a very passionate post. it brought a tear to my eye!

nice job!

[ZenSilk]

It's nice to be appreciated!

[Stealth]

I have to somewhat agree with zen. People put way to much weight into stupid shit that really does not affect smoke at all. Why not ask, which smokes better, hookahs with a colored base or a clear base? As for mention the 4 hold syrian as a "diffuser," that again is not a factor, "diffusing" it in that way in no way changes the smoke.

I am a little confused about this purge 2 hold nonsense that I am hearing. I dont have a mya so I'm not getting this whole common chamber thing, people seem to be kind of using port, hole, and heart chamber interchangably.

[ZenSilk]

Well, common chambers can't purge because theer is no tube leading to the purge valve (most of the time common chamber hookahs dont even have purge valves, or when they do they are just for design and aren't functional). In a traditional 2 hole heart, you CAN purge very easily because of the seperate hole.

Now, My mya can purge, and also my JandR, but not as efficiently as an Egyptian can. But i NEVER purge, cause i guess i'm good at keeping a bowl going perfectly...? And also i only smoke with 3 or more people.

ANd i think by "Port" they mean "Hole" as in the holes in the bottom of the heart, which Mya's don't have at all, it's gust a big open space. The downstem in the Mya actually screwn directly into the shaft through the middle of the gigantic heart chasm. Edited November 29, 2007 by ZenSilk

[Canon]

my 2 hole glyph purges like crap, while my girlfriend common chamber al kereem purges much easier then mine.

[shisha fan]

i took a picture to show the difference.

on the left is a mya stem, on the right an egyptian with 2 ports.

Edited November 29, 2007 by shisha fan

[ZenSilk]

Some purge valves just suck, i have to agree.

[EternalSoil]

i took a picture to show the difference.

on the left is a mya stem, on the right an egyptian with 2 ports.

You cant tell on the mya but all thats in that large hole around the stem is 2 holes, one going ot hosem one going to purge valve. the difference seems minimal, but because the two holes are right next to eachother when you tey to purge, you just blow the air right out through the hole instead of it being forced down by the smoke like on the egyptian.

[Stealth]

Well, common chambers can't purge because theer is no tube leading to the purge valve (most of the time common chamber hookahs dont even have purge valves, or when they do they are just for design and aren't functional). In a traditional 2 hole heart, you CAN purge very easily because of the seperate hole.

Now, My mya can purge, and also my JandR, but not as efficiently as an Egyptian can. But i NEVER purge, cause i guess i'm good at keeping a bowl going perfectly...? And also i only smoke with 3 or more people.

ANd i think by "Port" they mean "Hole" as in the holes in the bottom of the heart, which Mya's don't have at all, it's gust a big open space. The downstem in the Mya actually screwn directly into the shaft through the middle of the gigantic heart chasm.

Ok, I understand but everyone was just useing different terms. But I dont get you saying that common chambers cant purge. They do if they have a purge valve but simply may not do it as well. Also, keep in mind 2 holes may not be 2 direct holes to the hoses, they mayhave an interior chamber just like the 4. My shitty chinease one is built like that.

Stargates are an common chambers and mine purges ok.

[ZenSilk]

Yes, they will purge only not as well. Almost not at all, basically. But once again, i never purge.

And i still think that the plate with 4 holes leading to a common chamber should be considered a diffuser. Not a complete diffuser, a simple one. Same with the plate wiht 2 holes on your Chinese one, only the pull is probably amazingly crappy and the smoke very thin.

You can always tell if they have tubes from the hole sin the heart tot he hose port and purge valve, because, like EternalSoil's pics show, the hole leading to the hose port is wider than the pirge valve hole.

[Stealth]

I really dont see how the diffusing is worth mentioning though. I mean, think about. When it happens in water it increases the water surface to air ratio for the time its in the water. When it happens going into the heart absolutly nothing is happening. The only benefiet of that plate is for structural inegrity of the hookah and possible to prevent splash from getting into the hose.