Sean Taylor's Death

[ZenSilk]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/30/...in3558834.shtml

Fucking read it.
Holy shit.
Umm, Death Penalty? For all of them? Yes.

I don't even believe that. They shot him in his fuvking leg and he BLED TO DEATH?????

[Ooph]

They hit his femoral artery

[ZenSilk]

Yes, and then he bled to death. Cause they shot him while they were trying to rob his house. Sheesh. What horrible scummy people.

[Ooph]

Yes, and then he bled to death. Cause they shot him while they were trying to rob his house. Sheesh. What horrible scummy people.

Not only that ... there were relatives involved.

[leadpipecinch21]

that shit is messed up...gonna miss him tomorrow, even though he was out with injuries the past two weeks...

[boulderkid303]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/30/...in3558834.shtml

Fucking read it.
Holy shit.
Umm, Death Penalty? For all of them? Yes.

I don't even believe that. They shot him in his fuvking leg and he BLED TO DEATH?????

You are crazy for thinking they should be put to death for that. Its awful what happend, but much much worse things have happend without the DP involved. As for the shooting they were not attempting to hurt him, as they did not expect anyone there.

[oolatec]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/30/...in3558834.shtml

Fucking read it.
Holy shit.
Umm, Death Penalty? For all of them? Yes.

I don't even believe that. They shot him in his fuvking leg and he BLED TO DEATH?????

You are crazy for thinking they should be put to death for that. Its awful what happend, but much much worse things have happend without the DP involved. As for the shooting they were not attempting to hurt him, as they did not expect anyone there.

How are we supposed to know what they were "expecting"? They shot him. He died. That's 1st degree murder. Good riddance to them.

[ZenSilk]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/30/...in3558834.shtml

Fucking read it.
Holy shit.
Umm, Death Penalty? For all of them? Yes.

I don't even believe that. They shot him in his fuvking leg and he BLED TO DEATH?????

You are crazy for thinking they should be put to death for that. Its awful what happend, but much much worse things have happend without the DP involved. As for the shooting they were not attempting to hurt him, as they did not expect anyone there.

How are we supposed to know what they were "expecting"? They shot him. He died. That's 1st degree murder. Good riddance to them.

Amen.

[MechAnt]

Sean Taylor was a great player for one of my favorite teams. Its just too unfortunate that he had to go so young, leaving a young wife and a daughter behind.

[ahwahoo2006]

I am not a lawyer, and I dont know the particular law in Florida, but I know that in a lot of states murder in the commission of a home invasion is a capital crime (see: castle law), so they might get the death penalty. Most likely, however, they will plead down to second degree (unpremeditated) murder. The tragedy of this is that it is so random - for whatever Taylor's past, he did not deserve to be murdered in his own home. He was also a very talented football player and will be missed on the Washington defense.

[boulderkid303]

Ya know what Im really fucking sick of hearing with all these cases??? Its not about the death of ST, even though this one is hyped up because of him, but mainly people arent seeing the real crime. Look at how young these people who did this are! One I believe is 16! Thats crazy! Every single time I hear about a crime the criminals keep getting younger and younger, but no one seems to care. Its a pathetic time we are living in right now, and no things are not fine and dandy. You wanna stop this shit from happening, don't go buy a gun or put 3 locks on your doors, but go make an impact on where these kids are at. Wether that be the inner city or else where. Try to make an impact on the person before this kinda shit happens.

[EvansLight]

Ya know what Im really fucking sick of hearing with all these cases??? Its not about the death of ST, even though this one is hyped up because of him, but mainly people arent seeing the real crime. Look at how young these people who did this are! One I believe is 16! Thats crazy! Every single time I hear about a crime the criminals keep getting younger and younger, but no one seems to care. Its a pathetic time we are living in right now, and no things are not fine and dandy. You wanna stop this shit from happening, don't go buy a gun or put 3 locks on your doors, but go make an impact on where these kids are at. Wether that be the inner city or else where. Try to make an impact on the person before this kinda shit happens.

so its our fault these kids shot them? If anything blame the damn parents. YOu wanna talk about the real crime these days its crappy parents. We see these kids shoot up schools, kills gay people cause there gay, rob stores, become rapists, and all that and when it finally catches up with them we feel sorry for the parents.

Why the hell don't we blame the parents for raising shitty kids? There are parents who had to raise there kids in all kinds of places and enviroments and there kids grew up to be good people. If a parent is good at what they do there kid isn't going to grow up and go "accidentally" shoot someone.

And thats another thing, why the hell are we worrying about these kids lives? We say "Oh they only accidentally shot him cause he surprised him, they were just trying to rob him!" we say it like it was ok they shot him cause it was an accident. Bullshit. These guys went into his home to steal his shit, and he happens to be there so they shoot him. And we only have there word they didn't shoot him on purpose.

Ya know what there old enough to know right from wrong, and they should face the piper for what they have done. And if they truely don't know what they were doing was wrong maybe there parents should end up in jail as well.

[boulderkid303]

Ya know what Im really fucking sick of hearing with all these cases??? Its not about the death of ST, even though this one is hyped up because of him, but mainly people arent seeing the real crime. Look at how young these people who did this are! One I believe is 16! Thats crazy! Every single time I hear about a crime the criminals keep getting younger and younger, but no one seems to care. Its a pathetic time we are living in right now, and no things are not fine and dandy. You wanna stop this shit from happening, don't go buy a gun or put 3 locks on your doors, but go make an impact on where these kids are at. Wether that be the inner city or else where. Try to make an impact on the person before this kinda shit happens.

so its our fault these kids shot them? If anything blame the damn parents. YOu wanna talk about the real crime these days its crappy parents. We see these kids shoot up schools, kills gay people cause there gay, rob stores, become rapists, and all that and when it finally catches up with them we feel sorry for the parents.

Why the hell don't we blame the parents for raising shitty kids? There are parents who had to raise there kids in all kinds of places and enviroments and there kids grew up to be good people. If a parent is good at what they do there kid isn't going to grow up and go "accidentally" shoot someone.

And thats another thing, why the hell are we worrying about these kids lives? We say "Oh they only accidentally shot him cause he surprised him, they were just trying to rob him!" we say it like it was ok they shot him cause it was an accident. Bullshit. These guys went into his home to steal his shit, and he happens to be there so they shoot him. And we only have there word they didn't shoot him on purpose.

Ya know what there old enough to know right from wrong, and they should face the piper for what they have done. And if they truely don't know what they were doing was wrong maybe there parents should end up in jail as well.

Im not saying its all our fault. But it is part of it, and shows where we are headed in this country.

As for worrying about there lives...not everyone gets a fair shot at the start of life...I believe many should be givin a second chance at it. And what is right from wrong now a days anyway???
Another big thing you may not see is maybe this kids didn't have parents, or any type of father figure in there lives. No disiplint. And I'll take the criminals word that they were not trying to kill him, because the facts if they wanted to kill him the shooter might aim a little higher than the leg think?? Also leaving his wife behind??? There were no intentions for murder.

[Christama]

Ya know what Im really fucking sick of hearing with all these cases??? Its not about the death of ST, even though this one is hyped up because of him, but mainly people arent seeing the real crime. Look at how young these people who did this are! One I believe is 16! Thats crazy! Every single time I hear about a crime the criminals keep getting younger and younger, but no one seems to care. Its a pathetic time we are living in right now, and no things are not fine and dandy. You wanna stop this shit from happening, don't go buy a gun or put 3 locks on your doors, but go make an impact on where these kids are at. Wether that be the inner city or else where. Try to make an impact on the person before this kinda shit happens.

so its our fault these kids shot them? If anything blame the damn parents. YOu wanna talk about the real crime these days its crappy parents. We see these kids shoot up schools, kills gay people cause there gay, rob stores, become rapists, and all that and when it finally catches up with them we feel sorry for the parents.

Why the hell don't we blame the parents for raising shitty kids? There are parents who had to raise there kids in all kinds of places and enviroments and there kids grew up to be good people. If a parent is good at what they do there kid isn't going to grow up and go "accidentally" shoot someone.

And thats another thing, why the hell are we worrying about these kids lives? We say "Oh they only accidentally shot him cause he surprised him, they were just trying to rob him!" we say it like it was ok they shot him cause it was an accident. Bullshit. These guys went into his home to steal his shit, and he happens to be there so they shoot him. And we only have there word they didn't shoot him on purpose.

Ya know what there old enough to know right from wrong, and they should face the piper for what they have done. And if they truely don't know what they were doing was wrong maybe there parents should end up in jail as well.

Im not saying its all our fault. But it is part of it, and shows where we are headed in this country.

As for worrying about there lives...not everyone gets a fair shot at the start of life...I believe many should be givin a second chance at it. And what is right from wrong now a days anyway???
Another big thing you may not see is maybe this kids didn't have parents, or any type of father figure in there lives. No disiplint. And I'll take the criminals word that they were not trying to kill him, because the facts if they wanted to kill him the shooter might aim a little higher than the leg think?? Also leaving his wife behind??? There were no intentions for murder.

I truly believe I have no role in how kids in my area act. What am I supposed to do, volunteer at the YMCA? People know right from wrong. It's simple reason. Murder is wrong. Whether a person has a good family life, or a lack of a father figure in their life plays no role in knowing this.

I just get sick of people blaming their actions on reasons like growing up in ghettos, lack of a father figure or other excuses. You choose your own actions. My dad wasn't the best father, my parents were never around and I grew up in one of the meth capitals of the U.S. You know what? I graduated high school, went and got a technical degree, and other than a speeding ticket 7 years ago, haven't had a run in with the law ever.

The problem is no one wants to accept personal responsibility. If you can convince yourself that what you've done is someone else's fault, thats all that matters.

Sorry, my third post and I'm already ranting.

[boulderkid303]

Ya know what Im really fucking sick of hearing with all these cases??? Its not about the death of ST, even though this one is hyped up because of him, but mainly people arent seeing the real crime. Look at how young these people who did this are! One I believe is 16! Thats crazy! Every single time I hear about a crime the criminals keep getting younger and younger, but no one seems to care. Its a pathetic time we are living in right now, and no things are not fine and dandy. You wanna stop this shit from happening, don't go buy a gun or put 3 locks on your doors, but go make an impact on where these kids are at. Wether that be the inner city or else where. Try to make an impact on the person before this kinda shit happens.

so its our fault these kids shot them? If anything blame the damn parents. YOu wanna talk about the real crime these days its crappy parents. We see these kids shoot up schools, kills gay people cause there gay, rob stores, become rapists, and all that and when it finally catches up with them we feel sorry for the parents.

Why the hell don't we blame the parents for raising shitty kids? There are parents who had to raise there kids in all kinds of places and enviroments and there kids grew up to be good people. If a parent is good at what they do there kid isn't going to grow up and go "accidentally" shoot someone.

And thats another thing, why the hell are we worrying about these kids lives? We say "Oh they only accidentally shot him cause he surprised him, they were just trying to rob him!" we say it like it was ok they shot him cause it was an accident. Bullshit. These guys went into his home to steal his shit, and he happens to be there so they shoot him. And we only have there word they didn't shoot him on purpose.

Ya know what there old enough to know right from wrong, and they should face the piper for what they have done. And if they truely don't know what they were doing was wrong maybe there parents should end up in jail as well.

Im not saying its all our fault. But it is part of it, and shows where we are headed in this country.

As for worrying about there lives...not everyone gets a fair shot at the start of life...I believe many should be givin a second chance at it. And what is right from wrong now a days anyway???
Another big thing you may not see is maybe this kids didn't have parents, or any type of father figure in there lives. No disiplint. And I'll take the criminals word that they were not trying to kill him, because the facts if they wanted to kill him the shooter might aim a little higher than the leg think?? Also leaving his wife behind??? There were no intentions for murder.

I truly believe I have no role in how kids in my area act. What am I supposed to do, volunteer at the YMCA? People know right from wrong. It's simple reason. Murder is wrong. Whether a person has a good family life, or a lack of a father figure in their life plays no role in knowing this.

I just get sick of people blaming their actions on reasons like growing up in ghettos, lack of a father figure or other excuses. You choose your own actions. My dad wasn't the best father, my parents were never around and I grew up in one of the meth capitals of the U.S. You know what? I graduated high school, went and got a technical degree, and other than a speeding ticket 7 years ago, haven't had a run in with the law ever.

The problem is no one wants to accept personal responsibility. If you can convince yourself that what you've done is someone else's fault, thats all that matters.

Sorry, my third post and I'm already ranting.

Ur kidding right???

[entrailsgalore]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/11/30/...in3558834.shtml

Fucking read it.
Holy shit.
Umm, Death Penalty? For all of them? Yes.

I don't even believe that. They shot him in his fuvking leg and he BLED TO DEATH?????

You are crazy for thinking they should be put to death for that. Its awful what happend, but much much worse things have happend without the DP involved. As for the shooting they were not attempting to hurt him, as they did not expect anyone there.

Um then why would they fire a gun at him? Don't then know bullets hurt humans and in some cases, cause death?? If it wasn't one of their intentions to hurt him, they wouldn't have fired a bullet let lone stay long enough upon discovering the residence was not in fact abandoned, which was stated as their original intention to rob an unoccupied residence. So they wanted to rob a place but not when there was people inside. Ok thats fine, so they break and enter a building go through some stuff, pocket a few things then discover that there are people home. At this point it is clear that even though their original intention was NOT to harm anyone, they were faced with a situation which caused them to reevaluate their intentions, and the situation is them discovering people home.

They are now faced with the decision to either leave, or to harm or hold captive the people in the house. They shot him in the leg, whether it by accidental fire or intentional, and that alone should constitute their new intentions of harming him and anyone else in the house. If it was not, they would have left. But they did not, they made a conscious decision to stay, which eventually resulting in the football players death. They are guilty of murder. If not "premeditated murder" they shot him...they are fully aware what a gunshot CAN do to a human, yet they shot him. They could have knocked him out by pistol whip, they could have hit him with a blunt object but instead they shot him. They could have done 1 of a hundred different scenarios but instead they pulled that trigger when the gun was aimed at him.

Maybe unintentional Murder, but definitely intentional harm.