Shisha Shop Belgium (mass Order?)

[Boersnoes]

So here I am. Belgium, Antwerp.

I've searched all over the city and only found one crappy shop selling hookah related material.
They sell crappy shisha (90% stems) in very limited flavours (guess which), all dried out and horrible on a whole.
Furthermore they force you to buy crappy chinese coals with every tobacco purchase (high heat, short time).
I can rant on and on.. but that leeds me nowhere.

So: are there any Belgian ppl here who can point me to a decent shop? Preferably in Antwerp.
Would really like to get my hands on some Tangiers everybody's raving about.
I checked the online shops, but shipping costs are higher then the shisha's purchase cost.
Furthermore, I would like to order with paypall, something is not really seeped in to the hookah online world it seems.

But if my idea is correct, I'm not gonna end up with this wanted Belgium dream shop.
So, I was wondering if there were maybe some people who were located in the viscinity and wanted to share the shiping costs.

Just leave a message here, or give me a PM.

.. And now we play the waiting game. Edited December 9, 2007 by Boersnoes

[hookahlife]

Hey Boersnoes,

The reason online hookah retailers (including ourselves) don't accept paypal, is because paypal does not allow its services for transactions involving tobacco and tobacco related products.

As for purchasing through the states, I agree with you on the expensive part, but since the price of shisha in the states is cheaper than what you get in Europe (at least for U.K. and France), If you buy bulk, than your cost is lower per gram of shisha.

If you are interested in doing a bulk order or a group order for a particular product (i.e. Tangiers tobacco), we can offer special pricing.

Hope this helps! Send me a PM if your interested in the group buy.

Best Regards,
Eugene Slobodetsky
Hookah Life
support@hookah-life.com
www.hookah-life.com
847-403-1213

So here I am. Belgium, Antwerp.

I've searched all over the city and only found one crappy shop selling hookah related material.
They sell crappy shisha (90% stems) in very limited flavours (guess which), all dried out and horrible on a whole.
Furthermore they force you to buy crappy chinese coals with every tobacco purchase (high heat, short time).
I can rant on and on.. but that leads me nowhere.

So: are there any Belgian ppl here who can point me to a decent shop? Preferably in Antwerp.
Would really like to get my hands on some Tangiers everybody's raving about.
I checked the online shops, but shipping costs are higher then the shisha's purchase cost.
Furthermore, I would like to order with paypall, something is not really seeped in to the hookah online world it seems.

But if my idea is correct, I'm not gonna end up with this wanted Belgium dream shop.
So, I was wondering if there were maybe some people who were located in the viscinity and wanted to share the shiping costs.

Just leave a message here, or give me a PM.

.. And now we play the waiting game.

[Johnny_D]

Hey Boersnoes,

The reason online hookah retailers (including ourselves) don't accept paypal, is because paypal does not allow its services for transactions involving tobacco and tobacco related products.

As for purchasing through the states, I agree with you on the expensive part, but since the price of shisha in the states is cheaper than what you get in Europe (at least for U.K. and France), If you buy bulk, than your cost is lower per gram of shisha.

I thought you claimed 'exactly what is in the package' on customs declerations forms Hookahlife?

It's just not worth ordering from a vendor who won't help play the game with customs. Once customs
get hold of it, any savings made get sucked into Tobacco tax.

I would suggest that if you do a 'bulk buy' to ensure that the vendor is prepared to ship without claiming tobacco. Otherwise it's just a worthless exercise.

JD

[Boersnoes]

Thx for the info.

I'm asking around to arrange a mass order.
Just to make a comparisson: here in antwerp Shanti sells tobacco for 7€ 100gr of Naklah (obligated roll of 3kings included)
Online the transaction alone costs me about 13€. That just sucks

PS: stay away from Naklah Lemon. Headache all over, like smoking Sif (cleaning product)

[hookahlife]

Hey Boersnoes,

The reason online hookah retailers (including ourselves) don't accept paypal, is because paypal does not allow its services for transactions involving tobacco and tobacco related products.

As for purchasing through the states, I agree with you on the expensive part, but since the price of shisha in the states is cheaper than what you get in Europe (at least for U.K. and France), If you buy bulk, than your cost is lower per gram of shisha.

I thought you claimed 'exactly what is in the package' on customs declerations forms Hookahlife?

It's just not worth ordering from a vendor who won't help play the game with customs. Once customs
get hold of it, any savings made get sucked into Tobacco tax.

I would suggest that if you do a 'bulk buy' to ensure that the vendor is prepared to ship without claiming tobacco. Otherwise it's just a worthless exercise.

JD

Hey Johnny,

We don't label our orders as "gifts", your right, however we do label them as flavored Molasses. We've had a lot of success shipping overseas, to places as far away as Australia with no customs issues. Obviously these matters are out of the hands of the retailers, but particularly during this time of year when customs are receiving a lot of activity, it's a little easier to get packages through...In fact we shipped almost 10 kg a few weeks back to Canada....got there with no problems.

Hope this helps clarify some questions!

-Eugene

[Woutert]

Having the same problem I know only 2 hookahshops in Antwerp, the one in Jessusstraat and somewhere around Groenplaats there's this very small "wierdo" shop. They sell all kinds of voodoostuff, jewels and also some shisha and some waterpipes.

Living in Belgium isnt too good for a hookah-lover

[james]

I've never had the pleasure of dealing with customs, but can't you usually bypass the tobacco tax by labeling the package as gift? It seems like there was some discussion about this on here a year or so ago.

This whole post is very sad in a watching my fellow smokers suffer kind of way. Edited December 10, 2007 by james

[Boersnoes]

Yes, only Naklah at Jezusstraat. And I'm no fan of Naklah.

Does the one at Groenplaats sell a wider range? Where exactly is that one?
I don't seem to recall any shop fitting your description.

This friday I'm hitting town and I need something to make up for the Lemon
Man, that lemon was really bad! Anyone wants it? You pay for the shipping though

I think I'm gonna ask my friend who lives near the border to the Netherlands.
Guess they have more variety.

Btw Wouter, where do you live? Maybe we could order together and hook(-ah OH, my humour!) up sometime.
I'm usually sitting friday and/or saturday evenings at Planchée with my friends smoking the little portable pipe.

[mrenergy09]

Im From Germany, so Belgium is not the far away. Do u know something about the costs you have 2 pay to your customs ( its the german zoll ). Last time i ordered about 2 kilos af Al Fakher Tobacco and they wanted me to pay about 200 €. What is to much as a poor student like me. The package went back... if its cheaper to send the tobacco to belgium and afterwards to germany i might be interested

[Boersnoes]

Do u know something about the costs you have 2 pay to your customs

Sorry, don't have a clue yet. Have never ordered online so far.
Also, does the same happen when you order smaller quantities? I figure that larger packages are more bound to be witheld, not?

unfortunately we`re stuck with nakhla too

Hmm.. I figured the Netherlands were the land of smoke
Well, seen the ppl owning the shop here in Antwerp are from the Netherlands I guess it's propably the same offer.

Sux Edited December 11, 2007 by Boersnoes

[shisha fan]

unfortunately we`re stuck with nakhla too

Hmm.. I figured the Netherlands were the land of smoke

it is the land of smoke, and i have found some brands in a tobacco store in amsterdam (habibi and soex), but both of them taste like shit.
maybe you can order some tobacco with some friends and share the shipping costs. tobacco from the US is usually alot fresher and juicier too. Edited December 11, 2007 by shisha fan

[shisha fan]

i remember seeing some al waha and al fakher in a tourist shop in knokke when i was there, they also sold a few hookahs.

[Boersnoes]

I just checked on this mnhookah shop.
During the checkout there is no mention of shiping costs ...

How much did you pay?

-- edit --
This is currently the only shipping method available to use on this order.
United States Postal Service (1 x 1.782lbs)
Priority Mail International (6 - 10 Days) $25.50 Edited December 11, 2007 by Boersnoes

[shisha fan]

i paid a 150 dollars including shipping for 10 tubs of different brands of tobacco. the shipping costs are based on the weight and method of shipping, express is a little bit more expensive.

[Boersnoes]

i remember seeing some al waha and al fakher in a tourist shop in knokke when i was there, they also sold a few hookahs.

Knokke.. Not really my viscinity, but I might get desperate ..
Thx

[Boersnoes]

i paid a 150 dollars including shipping for 10 tubs of different brands of tobacco. the shipping costs are based on the weight and method of shipping, express is a little bit more expensive.

Put a stick up my ass and call me Charlie, but what's this tub unit you're refering to
Our tub can hold a LOT of tobacco Edited December 11, 2007 by Boersnoes

[shisha fan]

hehe, i meant a 250g plastic container and not a bathtub.

[Boersnoes]

I C. Those damn kids and their slang
Well, 150€/10t = 15€/t
Which is about the price they're charging at most sites, not including shipping.
So where did your shipping go?

If I could get the same price for a smaller quantity somewhere, that would be nice.
Thinking about ordering any time soon? If so, I would be interested in piggy-backing off course.

[shisha fan]

the total of my order (including shipping) was 150 dollars, which is 102 euros at this moment (www.xe.com) so that makes it 102/10 = 10.20 per container of tobacco.

[Woutert]

Naa only Naklah too Oooooh this suffering.

I dont know many places in Antwerp, where is this Planchée thing? Might try going there some time... Some kind of hookah bar?
anyways I got some local friends here (about 3) who own their own waterpipe as well, so I might be able to convince them in sharing the costs of a mass-order... I'll post something in here later.

Wouter