boulderkid303 Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 I personnaly disagree with EternalSoil set up. Everyone has there own way and if it works why not, but I have used every set up and the big holes with the bowl loaded all the way up works best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voski Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Ya race we live pretty close I think. Monday is my last final so we can meet up after that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racemyghost Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 QUOTE (voski @ Dec 15 2007, 06:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Ya race we live pretty close I think. Monday is my last final so we can meet up after that!thursday is my last final. next weekend, im down to chill. let me know. We chill hye-kakan style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clickhea Posted December 16, 2007 Author Share Posted December 16, 2007 i really dont understandi loaded another bowl this time peach iced tea.. i over loaded it, just like the picturei threw on 2 exoticas (halfs)and iam getting no flavor what so ever, good smoke, but no flavorsigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clickhea Posted December 16, 2007 Author Share Posted December 16, 2007 tried another bowl of strawberry loaded it even morestill nothingthis is starting to piss me off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racemyghost Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Clickhea,do this, overpack the bowl using a fork. make sure its clumpy when u put it in. make sure there are no empty spots and that the side walls are covered in tobacco. then, let the bowl acclimate whereever you are smoking without the foil on for about 30mins or so. then foil it up, put a ring of big holes on the very outside of the bowl. then make a second ring about 1/4 down from the 1st ring. and then a 3rd ring ifu please. Make sure everything is airtight. your charcoals using exoticas should be like this (l l) ---> ( is the bowl and the -----> l l are the coals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everydayshisha Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Thats why tangiers is not for me. I smoke everyday + 6-8 bowls on weekends. about 10-12 bowls a week. If i smoked tangies i'd need a 250g of tangiers every week. My go to brand is alfakher, which i underpack in my 10g bowl. about 6-7g every time. i usually smoke for about 2 hours a bowl and the taste is still crisp. I believe tangiers is not worth unless you are seeking the buzz (i might be wrong tho) cz you have to use 25-30g of shisha for a 2 hour session and you also need practice and effort to do it right. I just spread less than 10g in my nornal Egyptian bowl, cover with foil, poke random holes and am ready to go in 2 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy1966 Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 (edited) I have a large phunnel bowl and this is how I do it. I have a 24" Eygptian Hookah, MYA hose, Ice and water in the base. I put the foil over the bowl so it is reallly tight and flat.I do not pack my bowl as others have shown here. I place the Shisha in the bowl and do not pack it down except very lightly. As I pick up the Shisha out of the container I make sure I have nice chucnks to lay in the rim. I only take a little at a time and to place it in the Phunnel. The bowl is full but not over the top and I would say I have aroung 15 grams or less in the bowl. I only poke 1 set of holes aroung the middle of the Phunnel ring. I think of a clock and put in 12 holes in at 12, 1, 2, 3, etc. Then I poke 4 holes around the Phunnel hole in a square pattern. Sometimetime I will start with 2 full 33mm QL's. I move them around the bowl frequently. Then as the coals burn I add a half of a 40mm or halves of 33's to keep the proper heat going. I can smoke for 3 hours this way and no flavor loss or burnt tatse. Right now I am 45 min into Orange soda, big clouds, excellent taste and a little buzz Time to go throw on a half of a 40 now. Don't be afraid to start breaking up your QL's if you are using them. You find a huge difference in being able to mange the heat. I hope this helps some. Edited December 16, 2007 by Snoopy1966 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalSoil Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Voski: Yes, i actually just started using exoticas, i used to use 3k all the time. When i use 3k i used 3 1/2 tablets spaced evenly. 4 1/4 pieces works well for people who dont smoke much though (not as hot).Boulderkid: how big of holes do you make? mine are toothpick sized and do you put less in?clickhea: I use 1/3 less coals than you, those coals you see in the pics are 1/3 pieces. try smaller pieces and add more on... little squares work well too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clickhea Posted December 16, 2007 Author Share Posted December 16, 2007 the bowl was packed pretty high, when i put the foil on tight, it packed the shisha down into the bowl pretty well i dont know if that is a problem or not.also the hole pattern i use is the same as the one shown in your pictures.. i was getting decent smoke, but almost like charcoal taste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 I have a mod for my phunnel, should I pack like you? (EternalSoil)I've not had a smoke in ages![size="2"][/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalSoil Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 make sure your coals are lit all the way and use a little less. a whole stick at a time (in halves) is a lot! i had the same crappy taste with exoticas at first when i was lighting them with a propane torch. now i make sure they are lit all the way on a hotplate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy1966 Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 This what my bowl looks like after 3 plus hours. No burnt shisha or much left over, all used up. Excellent smoke and taste through the whole session Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racemyghost Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 damn snoopy, thats WAY TOO MUCH ash in your bowl. You have to be very careful when you remove and ash or replace the coals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalSoil Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Billy, dont use a mod with tangiers at all. mod is for other tobacco and when you dont want to smoke much.wow snoopy, is that tangiers? i'm curious what it looks like before you smoke, also what's your coal setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy1966 Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 (edited) Yeah this time I had a lot of ash. I was trying to use my new MYA tongs. I think I will stick to my old ones(tongs)This was 3 plus hours though...I use Golden Coal QL's. Summer Iuse the naturals. It is to hard to use them in the winter in my apartment. This session started with a 40 broke in half and half of a 33. I got it up to temp. took off the 33 half for bit. Then I just move the coals around a lot. I probably used 2 40's and 3 33's total. Maybe I should ash more instead of pushing the coals. Most the time I am smoking I am gaming.....so that hinders my coal ash. Yes it is Tangiers. I will post up a pic on how I pack my Phunnel. Edited December 16, 2007 by Snoopy1966 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalSoil Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 QUOTE (Snoopy1966 @ Dec 16 2007, 12:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yeah this time I had a lot of ash. I was trying to use my new MYA tongs. I think I will stick to my old ones(tongs)This was 3 plus hours though...I use Golden Coal QL's. Summer Iuse the naturals. It is to hard to use them in the winter in my apartment. This session started with a 40 broke in half and half of a 33. I got it up to temp. took off the 33 half for bit. Then I just move the coals around a lot. I probably used 2 40's and 3 33's total. Maybe I should ash more instead of pushing the coals. Most the time I am smoking I am gaming.....so that hinders my coal ash. Yes it is Tangiers. I will post up a pic on how I pack my Phunnel.wow... i think ill wait and see pics and try your packing method. i cant follow that heat management though haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clickhea Posted December 16, 2007 Author Share Posted December 16, 2007 when i over pack the funnel, and apply the foil tight, it packs the bowl down, is this alright? or should i not put the foil as tight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalSoil Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 i put it on tight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clickhea Posted December 16, 2007 Author Share Posted December 16, 2007 iam gonna load a bowl in a few and take pics of everything hopefully someone figure out what iam doing wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalSoil Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 good idea! ill be here for a while. hopefully we can figure this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy1966 Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Here is how I pack my bowl. I put the foil on very tight to make sure it has no wrinkles. These are just pics of the Shisha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalSoil Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 weird... i used to pack it like that but i got the tickle in the back of my throat and couldn't do it like that. also, i got much better flavor when i put more in. maybe ill have to try it again or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 QUOTE (EternalSoil @ Dec 16 2007, 11:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Billy, dont use a mod with tangiers at all. mod is for other tobacco and when you dont want to smoke much.Not Tangiers I dont smoke that stuff lol. I smoke AF, LL and AW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalSoil Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 it will smoke just fine without the mod in the phunnel... better if you ask me, but the mod uses less shisha so you have shorter sessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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