John Deere Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ioannisds Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Unhhhhhhhhhh! I vote for screens! How's that for f**king up the statistical mean! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I voted for foil because I've never had any luck with the screens. After about 3 bowls either burning or not going at all I just gave up. I'll probably regret it when I'm 80 years old running through the park naked, but its just so much easier now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahwahoo2006 Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 "I'll probably regret it when I'm 80 years old running through the park naked, but its just so much easier now!" Yeah well.... that seems to happen to me most weekends anyway... me + alcohol = eventually naked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Deere Posted September 7, 2005 Author Share Posted September 7, 2005 screens piss me off sometimes, but I still kinda like their convienience. For now I'm a foil man, but I only use hookah foils, because they dont have chemicals and stuff on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dikydave Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 screens all the way, so much easier, as long as i use my windcove,r it smokes exactly the same as foil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I've actually made a ritual out of preparing the foil each session, I don't know what I'd do with myself if I could just place a screen on top of the bowl... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakescakes Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 FOIL man, screens are kharra! if u want convenience, use two thin slits with a sharp knife on top of the foil instead of pin holes. works actually very well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 Screens, never had any problems with screens...NEVER!!! Everytime I use foil, the ma'assell just burns to a crisp. Terrible stuff, that foil is. But, hey, thats just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlax Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I use screens for the most part use less I bring out my party bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supdog Posted September 7, 2005 Share Posted September 7, 2005 I'm new to hookah smoking, and I've only used the screen that came with my hookah. I like the screen because I don't have to move the coals, I just rotate the screen and do not knock any ash off the coal. Plus I can lift the screen and check the tobacco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathazar Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Foil is just convenient for me. I have a box of Reynold's Wrap sitting next to my hookah, and I simply cut-out a piece when I need one. I don't use toothpicks, I use a fork to punch small holes in rows until I have a rectangular design, and then I piggy-back 2 disc-shaped coals. Works pretty well for me. I rarely ever burn the tobacco, and I'm a power-puffer. I place the foil shiny side down because I've heard here on the forum that it's supposed to seal in the heat a little better. I don't know why that is, or if it's even true, but I do it anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR Bubble Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 [quote name='John Deere']For now I'm a foil man, but I only use hookah foils, because they dont have chemicals and stuff on them.[/quote] SO how exactly, do you know hookah foils don't have the same chemicals and stuff on them that household foils have? [quote name='Brad']I'll probably regret it when I'm 80 years old running through the park naked, but its just so much easier now![/quote] Being a dirty old man someday is my life's aspiration. MR Bubble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 I must say that the wind cover plus the screens are the perfect combo. as far as I'm concerned. I save my ritual for the coals. A little extra ash on the Ma'asell desn't really matter when your half way through the puck anyway, the tobacco acts like a natural filter so it's not like i get a mouth full of ash or anything. $.02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsboy Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 Doesn't the screen cause too much air flow ... wouldn't it feel like an air leakage ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 nope...I have a nice big deep bowl, I cover the the entire screen with chunks of natural coal and crank out some HUGE smoke. The difference is the large volume of air is still going past the coals and through the bowl and masell. More air means more smoke. A leak would just be adding air AFTER the bowl, diffusing the smoke. There are just a few of us who like screens. But those of us who have figured them out will never go back to foil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmexx Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 Whatever, foil has better heat management then screens. Cost wise, they both come up to the same, it's just time to put the holes. All the hookah lounges I know use tinfoil, even if it takes time. If you know how to poke your holes, you're on your way to a good session.Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 jmexx: the heat management is in the hands of the smoker, not the screen or foil. You can burn your ma'asell just as easily with either if you add too much heat. As for lounges, many of them are run by people who've always used foil for their personal smoking, so thats what they use in their lounges. People use what they are familiar with. I've seen some lounges use foil chimneys and some use metal wind covers. Which is more correct? Cost wise I spent about 2 bucks for my screen and I never have to buy another roll of foil, never have to worry about running out of foil at a bad time, don't have to carry it with me when i travel, and it doesn't sag so i end up with bits of burning tobacco stuck to the bottom of it. Can you explain to me how reusing the same 2 buck screen is the same price as constantly using new foil? If you know how to manage your heat with a screen, your on your way to a great smoke as well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmexx Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 Meh but what's the payout? I get fantastic smoke using foil without having to experiment with screens. Plus those things get HAWT! lol.Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 And I get fantastic smokes with my screen... All comes back to the heart of the whole hookah experience, use what works for you, be it hookah, screen, coals, or ma'asell... Though i'll restate what i've said in several posts about screens..I have a realy wide and deep bowl which means I can leave a fair amount of space between my heat and my ma'asell and still pack as much as most people do for a good 1 to 1/2 hour session. This makes it harder, but not impossible, to burn my stuff.... Though there are several others here who use screens and like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukasa Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 I lost my screen now i'm a foil guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsraelEnigma Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 the truth is hookah foils will still give u alzheimers, the majority of screens will give u alzheimers, and household foild will give alzheimers, its not the addtives, its the aluminium itself, so if u have a shisha made of aluminum ure also screwed but why is evryone so worried assume u dont get alzheimers theres always cancer so relax live and smoke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 or lung cancer even..it is still tobacco after all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sariél Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 I asked a friend of mine about the dangers of charcoal and aluminum foil. He is a 50 year old socially inept genius who hasn't left the house for anything unrelated to work or shopping for 20 years. He is an expert on just about everything except women and sports. (I think one frightens him and one has been dismissed as irrelavant.) Think Napolean Dynamite grown up with a 200+ IQ. I have never heard him say "I don't know." He said "I'm not sure" a few times, but then got back to me the next day with a definite answer. Anyway, he said that the heat generated by a charcoal would not be sufficient to release harmful vapours from foil in a quantity that would be harmful. I realize this is not a proven source for anyone who does not know him, but I trust him more than any privately funded study. Those studies are usually funded by those that have a vested (financial) interest in the findings. Besides, he's just freaky smart. Besides, its the answer I wanted to hear, because it meant I could smoke with one less worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmexx Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Cool, Jon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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