Canon Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSCeF6eoLZUfound this video on youtube, thought it was kinda funny how they did the experiment.. kinda like how we smoke.. ive never noticed the water changing color though (except when the juices flow down the stem) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zildjian Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 did a project on it. cigs have 11.6% nicotine per gram, shisha is .5% at worst. not to mention the 600 additional chemicals added (45 of which are carcinogenic). so i still vote shisha > cigs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmunRa Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 I agree with Zildjian. Hookah ftw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExoticImports Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Each head of a hookah is equal to about 20 cigs BUT in what ways people ask. Tar?Smoke?Nicotine?Tobacco?Additives?Well best answer is Smoke. 20 cigs of smoke is equal to 1 hour of hookah smoking. Exotic Imports USALetsHookah.comThe Home Of Exotica Hookah Coals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenSilk Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Well, you aren't completely directly burning the shisha either. in a Cig it's all burning harsh and hot. Put a cotton ball on the end of your mouth tip, or even in your mouth. Pull the smoke through it. Then do this with a Cig (if you can). Just look at it and you will see what happening to your lungs with just one cig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybersist Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 That was amazing.... I wish this was around when I wrote a paper on hookahs....hookah FTW!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhishPhood Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 I read that 1 bowl of shisha is about the equivalent of a pack of smokes... Ill dig up the link later. I'm headed out to party soon. HAPPY NEW YEAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoopy1966 Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Do you think it make a fifference on how fast they burn the cigs like that? They have got to be a lot hotter then you could smoke normally then in their testing. That would increase tar I would think. I am not saying cig smoking is good for you, I smoked for many years and I do not crave shisha like I did when I smoked cigs. That shit was nasty that they boiled up at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted January 1, 2008 Author Share Posted January 1, 2008 it really doesnt make a difference in the tar.. burning is burning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPeace Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 QUOTE (Zildjian @ Dec 31 2007, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>did a project on it. cigs have 11.6% nicotine per gram, shisha is .5% at worst. not to mention the 600 additional chemicals added (45 of which are carcinogenic). so i still vote shisha > cigsdude if cigs had 11.6% nocotine in it per gram. you would die. don't mean to be blunt or anything but you might want to see if you mean 1.16%. 11.6% would put so much nicotine in your system that you would die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LebanonPride Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 i think newports have 18mg of tar and 15mg of nicotine per cigg. if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalSoil Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 i heard a while back that if you injest one drop of niccotine it could kill you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benton Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Yes, if you ingest pure nicotine in very small amount it is fatal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zildjian Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 nope im serious. how would it kill you? you have no idea dude. the amount of nicotine in ciggs has risen over 20% in the past 10 years. the more people smoke the more they need. it my seriously fuck up a person who has never smoked, but to a 2 pack a dayer its what they need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amnite Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 (edited) theres a huge difference between burning and cooking/warming tobacco... shisha u cook/warm and cigarettes u burn. And you want to tell me that shisha is worser now? Edited January 2, 2008 by amnite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhishPhood Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 (edited) This is directly copied from Wikipedia. All the cites for this article are on their site. You can find it by searching "Hookah" on wikipedia.QUOTE oday's media sometimes suggests that hookah can be a more health threatening activity than smoking cigarettes. Research suggests that a session of hookah tobacco smoking (tobacco molasses) which lasts 45 minutes delivers slightly more tar and carbon monoxide (around 5-10%) than a packet of cigarettes.[9] This study has, however, come under criticism for using unrealistically high temperatures for the tobacco (600-650 degrees C) and using arbitrary figures for tar filtration rates.[citation needed] This could possibly have skewed results, as the carcinogenic and toxin levels of smoke increases dramatically with temperature (Wynder 1958). Common practice is to keep temperatures to degrees which do not "char" the hookah; that is within a temperature range of 100-150 C. (Chaouachi K: Patologie associate all'uso del narghile). The effects of these lower temperatures on tar are inconclusive, though Chaouachi indicates the tar would be less harmful.Some hookah tobaccos claim to contain 0.0% Tar, but this is misleading due to the fact that tar is created when tobacco burns.However, research has indicated that the use of the hookah may reduce comparative cancer risks, though such studies are not conclusive (Hoffman[10], Rakower, Salem 1983 and 90, Gupta Dheeraj 2001, Tandon 1995, Lubin 1992, Hazelton 2001, Stirling 1979). The levels of carbon monoxide produced during a hookah session varies widely depending on the type of coal used. Japanese charcoals are thought to produce lower amounts of carbon monoxide. However there is a notable difference in areas of carbon monoxide absorption, in that while cigarettes have a notable effect on the small respiratory tracts rather, shisha smoking mostly affects the major airways (Bakir 1991, Kiter). This means a lessened FEV vs FEV1/FVC ratio compared to cigarettes, which is believed to be less harmful for the airways long-term.A popular article by K Chaouachi, a French researcher who has been studying hookah usage and effects throughout the world since 1997, highlighted the mistakes and errors made by the WHO TobReg in its report[11]. The WHO TobReg's report is used in a lot of media articles about hookah smoking and its effects. Chaouachi also authored a book[12] in 2007 which offers a complete look at data collected from his studies on hookahs and hookah users.Hookahs can also be smoked with herbal flavours. These contain Sugar Cane Bagasse with no tobacco, nicotine or tar. The popular brands are Soex, Highlife & Black Label. This new method of smoking is aimed at replacing tobacco and thus eliminating its negative health effects. Since no reported problems have arisen with the use of herbal shisha, there has been no need for any more extensive studies. The studies that have been done have shown that smoking herbal shisha as opposed to tobacco will greatly reduce the health risks associated with smoking tobacco.[13]Many articles[14] suggest that there is simply not enough research to provide answers to determine the effects of hookah smoking. Research is under way by Fogarty International Center-funded Syrian Center for Tobacco Studies, Egyptian Smoking Prevention Research Institute, Research for International Tobacco Control-funded Tobacco Prevention and Control Research Group at the American University of Beirut, Lebanon. Edited January 2, 2008 by PhishPhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 I suggest you guys read this entire study.http://www.jnrbm.com/content/5/1/17#refsVery relevant to the WHO report on narghile smoking and it's inherent unsubstantiated "dangers". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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