Ghaleon Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 So I somehow got my hands on 4 full tobacco plans (long story). Any suggestions on how to turn them into shisha? Thanks alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 [url="http://www.snarkdreams.com/hookah/recipesearch.html"]http://www.snarkdreams.com/hookah/recipesearch.html[/url] check it out that's the only one i could find have fun readin hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR Bubble Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 Oh, that is funny crap, isn't it? I wonder if he ever found any success beyond what he wrote. We need to find this guy. He's a riot. MR Bubble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakemonster Posted September 17, 2005 Share Posted September 17, 2005 First off...... you need to cure or ferment the tobacco..... Smoking uncured or unfermented tobacco is gawdawful harsh... and in some cases can be fatal.... Im not kidding. Curing on the average takes 3 years. You can go sooner.... but it will just be harsh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghaleon Posted September 17, 2005 Author Share Posted September 17, 2005 hmmmm. I've got a friend who's parents used to farm tobacco. i'm waiting for her to get back to me...i'll keep you posted when she does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kofod Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Lakemonster Am I correct to assume that it needs both to be cured and fermented? That is first cured to make (normal) tobacco out of it and then ferment it to make molasses tobacco out of the normal tobacco? More in details - there are several ways of curing depending on the tobacco being better to what purpose the tobacco should be used for (cigarettes, chewing etc.). So besides curing we need the right type of curing - right in the respect of producing the best "plain" tobacco for next molasses tobacco step. I know that a tobacco commonly used in the production of the better molasses is Virginia light. As much as I know Virginia is traditionally flue cured or fire cured where flue is far the most common to day. That covers the curing, where I would recommend to make something similar to virginia light using flue curing - But what about the fermenting? I only adressed lakemonster because it was a spin-of from / and question to his post - others are of course welcome with their contribution :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakemonster Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 I dont think it needs to be both cured and fermented. The tobacco needs to dry then flue cured or "barn cured" or fermented. The idea behind curing is to break down the starches in the leaf and reduce nicotine........... starches make the smoke harsh..... nicotine levels in some tobacco need to be reduced to be safe. Tobacco fermenting is done mostly for chewing tobacco and snuff (dip). There is one type of tobacco made for pipe smoking that gets fermented here in the US, Perique......... after drying.... the tobacco is placed into wooden barrels and alowed to ferment. I dont know if anything is added to the tobacco in the way of sugars and yeast at this point....... or if the fermentation is strictly working on the sugars in the tobacco itself. Also... choosing the right tobacco for the job is not just a matter of picking the right plant....... but using the right parts. Ma'assel is low in nicotine........ so you have to go to the anatomy of the plant to find that requisite. Imagine a tobacco plant and devide it into three sections from top to bottom..... the top leaves are generally used for cigarettes. This contains the highest amount of nicotine......... the middle section is suitable for Cigar filler and wrapper....... the bottom 4 rows of leaves are called the "Cutters"... these are used for pipe tobacco.. and has the lowest nicotine content. I would imagine that cutters are used for Ma'assel....... thats speculation on my part tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uselessdreamer1 Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 wow i live in kentucky where tobacco is our cash crop, and i didnt know this stuff.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kofod Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Lakemonster - Thx the thing about chosing the right part of the plant corresponds with me hearing that a light type of Virginia is used - light -> cutters -> low nic. -makes sense. With respect to fermenting I meant that when making molasses tobacco you will set the finished "plain" tobacco to ferment with the molasses, fruits etc, basically all the "extras" in shisha. I know that it is not fermenting in a regular "plain tobacco producing" way cause the tobacco in it self will not ferment (convert starch into sugar) when its dry (at least thats what my sense of chemistry tells me). So we could in effect call it tobacco fermentation and shisha fermentation (I guess where pretty free to make our own tech terms here). My thought here is that where normal shisha manufactures would buy finished tobacco and then shisha ferment it. Then producing also the plain tobacco your self would allow you to do the tobacco fermentation and shisha fermentation at the same time. This is how they do things when making cigars -> adding taste at the same time as tobacco fermentation is commencing. That was my thought to do the same when having some undryed fermentation ready tobacco on hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypress Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 There is a science in making your own ma'assel. Why do you think there are so many failed attemps from companies to get it tasting right. No one person can make it in a scale that it would be ones worth-wild. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kofod Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 As long as it intrigues you and holds your interest it will always be worth-while. Result is no crucial matter then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cypress Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 I hope he has quite a bit of leaves on those plants. He would have to do quite a bit of experimenting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kofod Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 Thats a truth :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookahmeup Posted September 18, 2005 Share Posted September 18, 2005 WTF.......HOOKAH ME UP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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