Bill H.r.2932 Against All Tobacco

[St. Goodypants]

Three words to illustrate that point:

War On Drugs.


It targets a non-physically dependant drug primarily. Why you ask?

Because it's dangerous and we need to be "protected" from it. Wow. lots of faith in the american public. Keep up the good work! Keep imprisoning repeat offenders for small quantities. Real damn smart policy that! Really damn expensive too...

[J-thehookaholic]

Funny part about the war on drugs... The CIA dumped huge amounts coke in this country during Iran-Contra. So really who's supposed be the good guys here? Who's supposed to be keeping drugs off our streets? OH WAIT THEY DON'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE PUBLIC B/C ITS NOT IN THEIR INTEREST! Like Chris Rock said.... "Only the white man can profit from pain."

They continue to strip away privacy, civil rights and liberty, and like assholes most in this country stand and cheer. Benjam Franklin said that those who would trade liberty for security deserve niether. Edited March 7, 2008 by J-thehookaholic

[St. Goodypants]

That may be the funny part, but the SAD part is that so many citizens who feel so goddamn strongly about ALL "drugs" when they go out and get completely trashed three times a week. It's pathetic. What's worse is that some of the same people pay big money for the right to pop a little prozac to help them through their life's problems.

The only drugs that we are "allowed" to take are made by the same large pharmaceutical companies who pour millions into congress every year. Those drugs which can be taxed, "regulated", and controlled by our government.

Don't get me wrong, I'm heavily against any kind of addictive drug (I actually include nicotine in that). I think that methamphetamine and heroin could stand more heavy enforcement and prosecution. It's just that drugs like marijuanna, Psilocybin, LSD, Mescaline, etc. which have low addictive potential don't cause the kind of crime that the drug war is supposedly "protecting" us from.


Ok, this is going off topic. Should I perhaps start a new thread? I'm asking mods if that would be allright...

[jonm1357]

i understand that everybody is getting all upset about the idea of this bill going through but i hope that everybody knows that it would be almost impossible for it to get passed. the tobacco companys make billions of dollars a year, and they have just as many if not more lobbyists in washington as the pharmeceutical companys and the insurance companys. i come from probably the second biggest tobacco producing state in the country. its our number two cash crop right behind illegaly grown marijuana. and trust me there is nobody in kentucky that ever gets worried about them banning any type of tobacco cause the economy of the commonwealth of kentucky and the commonwealth of virginia would be crushed. and for all of you geography freaks out there which one of those states borders d.c.?

[Bulldog_916]

If tobacco has so many lobbyists, why have they consistently lost the fight against anti-tobacco lobbies? Why are they having huge multi-billion dollar settlements decided against them? Seems to me that one side is losing while the other side is still fighting to have tobacco made completely illegal and wont stop until it is. I already cant smoke outside in some places. Even in my own truck if i wanted to, I cant smoke in there either. Who is winning this battle? Aint smokers man.

[St. Goodypants]

Because supporting tobacco is seen as a political no-no which one's opponents would use against them, tobacco lobbyists aren't nearly as effective.

I agree with you on the statement about virginia though. Edited March 18, 2008 by St. Goodypants