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yes you are correct. It just sucks that I have proof and I am getting blown off as a liar and a cheat.

Also I never replied to The Devils Playground for free coals or any other offer like this. I just want compensation that I think I deserve.
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I don't mean to get on anyones bad side, but people are crooked, I deal with assholes all day, dealing with contractors, all day, I am young, 19 dealing with contractors bullshit, housing, etc, I work for an Private Electrical Company, I mean, gave me a work vehicle, I show up pick the vehicle up, buy the parts for the job I have to get done and deal with the contractor on my own, they want shit that was never made out to be on the deal in the first place, they go behind peoples back, lie steal etc, just as others I know there aren't many honest people out there, not saying that you or the ones who claim are liars, but there are the ones out there.

So like I said, he could of handled the returns in a better manner, show him the receipt send him a copy, talk it out with him, if your willing to talk to him and instead of bash him, im sure he is willing to help.

We all make stupid choices at times, maybe he had a bad choice of just making a post and sending out coals.
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What the fuck... huh.gif

Wait so when i bash Chinese Shit hookahs it's illegal? Cause they are shit, the shittiest shit in the world becuse they are made of shit in China, shit.

I htink taking this to courst is a little too far, i don't think this will be taken seriously in any way.

i have nothing to say about any of this i suppose, it's kinda petty.

Actually... there's something wrong here.
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No problem, I'll post pictures of my receipt and a fe boxes opf bad coals...just for the record. rolleyes.gif

You know, if you look back at my posts, no where will you see me telling people not to uise exoticas. I simply said *I* was switching to Nours. Also, if you actually read the posts ion various threads, you will find I posted that since the problem had been found and the 2 replacement caes I did receive were actully OK, i thought these coals would still be ok to use, just that I personally choose not to. So read away some of you, show me where I said anything other than my coals were bad, Gabriel isn't making good on his word to replace them, and I'm switching.
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QUOTE (The Devils Playground @ Jan 19 2008, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey I have to defend Gabe here. Gabe does not think Mush is the Devil. Everyone knows Neal from the Devils Playground (AKA Wolrd Hookah) is the Devil.

See I can laugh and have fun. I just choose to do it rolling aorund in money normally. lol



devil i didn;t kno about u at first but I am glad you are like me: screw the drama, try sayin something funny.. and jus move on
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QUOTE (ASUSEAN1 @ Jan 19 2008, 11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (The Devils Playground @ Jan 19 2008, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey I have to defend Gabe here. Gabe does not think Mush is the Devil. Everyone knows Neal from the Devils Playground (AKA Wolrd Hookah) is the Devil.

See I can laugh and have fun. I just choose to do it rolling aorund in money normally. lol



devil i didn;t kno about u at first but I am glad you are like me: screw the drama, try sayin something funny.. and jus move on


I prefer pudding cause it's much cheaper than money. And i love the feeling of pudding inbetween my... ehh nevermind. I'll bear you the details. cool.gif
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QUOTE (zeppyrkr @ Jan 19 2008, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
but look how many people immediately are 100% against exocticas now? mush has tons of power i just hope people are still giving the product a chance, as ive said im buying them until i get some bad ones, i like them alot! i hope they can work things out, the court threat is retarded come on gabe i love your product but you are acting childish.


im not against exoticas. i never purchased exoticas, nor will i ever. Nour's do the trick for me. never had a bad bag.

if i dont use nours, jap QL's or 3ks.
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Mush is a total GENTLEMAN. A good guy. A guy that devotes A TON of time and must get alot of grief for his hard work.

Anyone who has an issue with him has an issue with me. I will never patronize these people ever again. Don't need to with good places like hookah shisha and many others.
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Why is it people feel the need to post that they aren't going to get involved in a thread? Or that they hate the drama of a thread, but feel the need to announce it to the world, AND bump up the post count for the thread AND keep bumping it to the top of the forum page?

If you aren't going to get involved, then just don't fricking post. If you don't like the drama, and are offering nothing to suggest an end, don't fricking post. If you have an opinion or suggestion, than by all means, fricking post. tongue.gif
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it actually isnt considered defamation....
sorry to use my degree here but mushrat (as far as the posts i have read) never commented on Gabe as a person. The company is what he spoke of.
As far as I know, there is no law saying that you cannot talk about a company or product negatively and be punished.
I.E. We have Consumer Reports and reviews on websites.

IF and ONLY IF mushrat said something negative about Gabe as a person (i.e. x likes to screw pigs and he does it everyday) which is a false allegation then because this is a written forum and not oral it would technically fall into the category of LIBEL not slander or defamation.
They are really all of the same however in different contexts.
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QUOTE (thecoalition @ Jan 19 2008, 02:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it actually isnt considered defamation....
sorry to use my degree here but mushrat (as far as the posts i have read) never commented on Gabe as a person. The company is what he spoke of.
As far as I know, there is no law saying that you cannot talk about a company or product negatively and be punished.
I.E. We have Consumer Reports and reviews on websites.

IF and ONLY IF mushrat said something negative about Gabe as a person (i.e. x likes to screw pigs and he does it everyday) which is a false allegation then because this is a written forum and not oral it would technically fall into the category of LIBEL not slander or defamation.
They are really all of the same however in different contexts.


Ya, i pointed out that it would have been libel and not slander in a letter back to him, but he abviously isn't listening. wink.gif

also, it has to been done with the intention of causeing damage, and since I have sated in many threads that people should be ok orderign them, just get them from reputable dealers, I can clearly show that is not my intent. And lastly, to be slander or libel it can't be TRUE. and I can prove everything I've written. dry.gif Ah, and I mentioned to him any lawyer that says he has a case is just after his money. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE (ZenSilk @ Jan 19 2008, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i just wanna know what Hookah Kings thinks.

Personally, if I were them, i'd be upset that this forum is associated with my company.


Spoke with Adrock about it last night. Gave him the background info on it. Seemed to be satisfied with the reasons I gave for what was done.

Remember, Gabe was banned for spam posting threads and spamming pm's. NOT due to any other factor. If I was gonna ban him because he pissed me off, a LOT of people would have been banned a LONG time ago... cool.gif
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QUOTE (mushrat @ Jan 19 2008, 01:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ZenSilk @ Jan 19 2008, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i just wanna know what Hookah Kings thinks.

Personally, if I were them, i'd be upset that this forum is associated with my company.


Spoke with Adrock about it last night. Gave him the background info on it. Seemed to be satisfied with the reasons I gave for what was done.

Remember, Gabe was banned for spam posting threads and spamming pm's. NOT due to any other factor. If I was gonna ban him because he pissed me off, a LOT of people would have been banned a LONG time ago... cool.gif


lol i think there was even a time i might have gotten a ban for making the mush not so happy tongue.gif
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QUOTE (mushrat @ Jan 19 2008, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ZenSilk @ Jan 19 2008, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i just wanna know what Hookah Kings thinks.

Personally, if I were them, i'd be upset that this forum is associated with my company.


Spoke with Adrock about it last night. Gave him the background info on it. Seemed to be satisfied with the reasons I gave for what was done.

Remember, Gabe was banned for spam posting threads and spamming pm's. NOT due to any other factor. If I was gonna ban him because he pissed me off, a LOT of people would have been banned a LONG time ago... cool.gif


Haha believe me.. i know. wink.gif
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