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Seems like Ron Paul isnt being given the time of day. It sucks because he's the one that makes the most sense out of the four of them. Why are they not giving him a chance? I smell bias.

I'm dying over here, give the man a chance to speak. These guys are shit compared to him! Edited by Bulldog_916
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In a real short matter of time there are about to be 3 candidates left, and Huckabee isn't one of them. Now that the number is down to a manageable size of candidates, they SHOULD be giving each equal time, not just the media anointed front runners.
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That's easy for you to say... you are not on this side of the line.

It says allot about the state of the country, and it's populace when the best we can find to lead the nation must be selected from the present pool. The harpy is looking better all the time.
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You're the global hegemon, for better or for worse *cough*, so your elected leader affects everyone.

If in a hypothetical world Ron Paul were to be elected, and he was somehow able to withdraw the US from the UN as he's promised, all pretenses of collective security and world order would vanish... In all likelihood, Israel would attack Palestine, which would force Iran to respond, drawing the US, Russia, probably China and India, and possibly Europe into it.... and voila, nuclear WW3.
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My living room was like a Scorsese film.

I had to sit on my hands to refrain from busting the television.

The bias is so blatantly obvious, guys. Can you believe Cooper cut him off not once, but twice?

What'd he get, six minutes of speaking time? Debate? I saw no debate, I saw a McCain-Romney love fest.

Fuck.
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Just wait for when Paulie drops out... the reaction from his "base". Part of the reason the man scares me. Sure, he has a few good ideas, but there is no chance in Hell he'd accomplish anything he claims he wants to do.

I just pray that Mr. Open Borders Shamnesty McCain doesn't end up getting the Republican nomination.

Come November, I am going to write in my candidate:

"None of the above"

Imagine if at least 10% of voters did that... maybe Washington would start to realize we are sick of their shit.
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QUOTE (AKammenzind @ Feb 1 2008, 01:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, it pissed me off too... I still think that if Doctor Paul loses there are gonna be some big protests, and there's a distinct possibility that someone's might blow shit up dance.gif


Okay, apparently anybody who bothers to call Crazy Uncle Ron "Doctor" is bound to be a supporter...and you're visibly happy about the prospect of someone "blowing shit up?" And you wonder why Ron Paul supporters get a bad rap?

Oh yeah, 911 was an inside job. rolleyes.gif Edited by Krautle87
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Do not allow a select few represent an entire campaign and its leader.

I think it's fairly disrespectful for you to refer to him as "Crazy uncle ron", because some of his support base happen to be lunatics.

Ron's worked his ass off for decades to get to this point, throw him a bone - he's done it for you, and myself, and the rest of America.
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QUOTE (Krautle87 @ Jan 31 2008, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (AKammenzind @ Feb 1 2008, 01:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, it pissed me off too... I still think that if Doctor Paul loses there are gonna be some big protests, and there's a distinct possibility that someone's might blow shit up dance.gif


Okay, apparently anybody who bothers to call Crazy Uncle Ron "Doctor" is bound to be a supporter...and you're visibly happy about the prospect of someone "blowing shit up?" And you wonder why Ron Paul supporters get a bad rap?

Oh yeah, 911 was an inside job. rolleyes.gif


I do support Ron Paul, and no I'm not really happy about the prospect of shit being blown up (at least not in the terroristic way, fireworks kick ass). It's more that I'd be happy that someone had the will to try and make a statement that the government might take to heart, even if they did it in a fucked-up backwards way. And yes, 9/11 truthers are a bunch of nuts.

In my opinion, if anyone but Ron Paul becomes president... we'll have made a step in the wrong direction. I don't want to have to pay into a social security system that's doomed to shit, and I don't want to have my grandkids fighting McCain's second Vietnam.
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Ron Paul has some very good ideas, and I would support him if it weren't for the reason which gaia.plateau posted. We can't withdraw from the UN, and we can't arbitrarily pull out of Iraq.

Also, the idea that bringing all troops home from our foreign bases would save the US money seems ridiculous to me. We don't have enough bases any more on home soil to house all of our troops after all the base closures by Congress. These base closures resulted in a savings of ~$7 billion a year since 2003. If we bring all of the troops home and do not decrease the size of the military then initially our costs will increase. After the new bases required for the infux in troops on home soil are completed then the spending will fall to about the same level it was before bringing the troops home. The only difference now would be that we are not able to enforce stability in certain areas of the world. Global autocracy would increase and so would inhumane acts by state leaders. Granted, of course, this is worst case scenario and we all know that people in power would never want to suppress their citizens for their own benefit rolleyes.gif .

Personally, I'm against socialized healthcare and medicine, but then again I also want to completely abolish Social Security. FDR never meant for Social Security to continue to exist after the depression.

I also like Ron Paul's stance on the separation of Church and State. But then again I also believe that the major reason people get upset for religious reasons is because they know that either they are weak in their faith or their children are weak in their faith. It seems like class action denial.

In short, I guess that I could vote for Ron Paul on the basis that his foreign policy would never make it through the legislative process, but that's a good thing.

I still support McCain at the moment, at least he's already shown a willingness toward bipartisan legislation. I don't know about Ron Paul on this, though, and if he has shown the willingness then he's up there in my book, too. Bipartisan cooperation is becoming increasingly important for both sides lately.
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QUOTE (ahwahoo2006 @ Feb 1 2008, 10:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No, Ron Paul is called "doctor" because that is his corect title. He went to medical school and earned his MD and practiced medicine for several years.



He's an OB/GYN wub.gif


by the way, I'm a 9/11 truther nutjob sleep.gif Hookah.gif
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Just thought I'd point out something on that presidential popularity site -

Naturally, each candidate will implement his macroscopic economic strategy in the microcosm of his campaign. There's only 1 candidate with a 0% debt...


Peace, smoke, and self sufficiency,
Opifex Minimus Edited by Opifex Minimus
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I like Ron Paul a lot, he speaks to what America needs to change, more than that it needs to change arbitrarily. I like Obama for that same reason, although I think he stands a better chance of making it. If Hillary gets the nomination, the dems are done. All McCain would have to do is bring up that she voted on the war the same as everyone else, then paint her as a socialist liberal nazi. Even though the past 8 years under Republican rule have been bad, America is still a conservative nation, it's just swinging back to center a bit. Here's to another election year, I love these because I get my hopes up that things might change.
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