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How To Interpret Percent Of Nicotene In Shisha Tobacco.


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My fantasia and nahkla tobacco state there is .5% of nicotine in the tobacco. Does this mean out of the 200 or 250g box .5% is nicotene. For example 200g .5% would be 10 grams of nicotene in the entire box. The web claims there is roughly 2mg of nicotine in a ciggie. Sooo, does this mean 500 ciggs x 2mg = 1000mg of nicotine or 1 gram of nicotine, and therefore 5000 ciggs x 2mg = 10,000mg or 10g, meaning 5000 ciggs equals 1 200g box of shisha?

This can't be right,


can anyone give me insight here?

Thanks guys.
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QUOTE (hookah hippie @ Jan 31 2008, 08:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yeah the number on the tobacco box that indicates percentage of nicotine is a bunch of crap

you can't really get a percentage of nicotine



Yeah, im trying to look into the health risks, i mean i know its not good for you, but i would to understand how it all relates to ciggs, some sights and research claim there is 100 times more smoke per hookah than a cigg, i understans that, 5 times more nicotine in 1 hookah than a cigg, and like 4-5 times more carbon monoxide, but they dont claim or show how they obtained these results.
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i think i read somewhere that ingesting a tablespoon of nicotene would be fatal. no way theres 10g of nic. in a box.

last i heard the nic %'s are rounded. thats why youll only ever really see .5 or .05 . i think they just choose whats closer but its really much lower in both cases.
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I actually did a little experiment when I was smoking a while back and I never got around to posting it, but I got a large bottle of water and drank half so it was half full and I blew smoke into it every time it settle down, to the point where I couldn't see the smoke, I blew more smoke into the bottle and after one hour the water was still really clear so I let it sit in my room and after a day the water was still clear and I didn't see any particles in it and I am sure ciggs wouldn't have the same outcome... so that is why I think hookah is better for me then ciggs.
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i believe the way they test the nicotine content is they take a specific amount (not sure how much) and they burn it and test the amount of nicotine released. i mean im not sure but this seems logical. basically all u need to know is that cigs like camel and newport have between 2.5 and 3% nicotine and malbaro and heavier cigs have 3.5% to 4.5%! unfiltered cigs can have from 4.5% to 6%! which is actually unbelievable but is the reason that so many ppl get major headaches and sickness from unfiltered their first time. hookah has .05% to .5% and some very uncommon brands can have like .8%, however, this is still addictive. you can still get addicted to hookah, however, it is easier to quit and keep in moderation.
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They measure nicotine per gram equivalent. For example, in shisha, there is either .05% nicotine PER gram of tobacco or .5% nicotine per gram of tobacco. In cigarettes there is 2.5-6.5% nicotine per gram of cigarette tobacco. You dont add the percentages to get the percent value of the entire box. You measure your intake per hookah session. So for every 20-25 grams of tobacco in a normal session, you only get 1% total nicotine for .05% nicotine tobacco, and ten times that for .5% nicotine. But you have to consider that you're getting that amount over a much longer period of time than with a cigarette. If you pace yourself, you may only be getting 2-6%. Just depends on how frequently you inhale.
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Hehe, I just gotta say...

LOL at wondering about the health risks of smoking. I think the thing is that you either have to not care, be in denial, or have a fatalistic personal philosophy.

For me it's a good bit of all three so I smoke all the time. I will say though, I don't think that hookah is physically addictive if simply because most people don't smoke it all day every day... whether or not you could become addicted if you smoked, say, 5-6 bowls every day... who knows, but if you really like it taht much, does it matter? Hookah.gif
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Don't know anything about the objective/empirical side, but from a subjective perspective: if I were to chain-smoke 7-12 cigs (1 cig = 5 min, 1 hookah in my case ~ 35-60 min) two times a day, I would probably end up in the hospital due to nic poisoning.
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as far as im aware its .05% on the box hold on i'll go look... yea it is. i think thats right cuz if it was super strong like: "The web claims there is roughly 2mg of nicotine in a ciggie. Sooo, does this mean 500 ciggs x 2mg = 1000mg of nicotine or 1 gram of nicotine, and therefore 5000 ciggs x 2mg = 10,000mg or 10g, meaning 5000 ciggs equals 1 200g box of shisha?" Then you'd probably die... and be super addicted to the nicotine. not to mention you'd get a crazy buzz off of it along with craving it 24/7

so i dont think you gotta worry about it too much
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QUOTE (ahwahoo2006 @ Feb 1 2008, 08:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As mentioned before, nicotine is measured per gram of tobacco. The weight of shisha includes the molasses too, so there is a big discrepancy.


yeah surprisingly i heard that its only like 30% tobacco and terms of weight (grams) i could be wrong, but yeah much of the weight comes from the molasses,flavoring,ect. Edited by zeppyrkr
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QUOTE (zeppyrkr @ Feb 1 2008, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ahwahoo2006 @ Feb 1 2008, 08:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As mentioned before, nicotine is measured per gram of tobacco. The weight of shisha includes the molasses too, so there is a big discrepancy.


yeah surprisingly i heard that its only like 30% tobacco and terms of weight (grams) i could be wrong, but yeah much of the weight comes from the molasses,flavoring,ect.



I don't mean to hijack the thread or anything, but on the same note, Starbuzz shows 0% tar. Anybody know if this statement is true as well?
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QUOTE (roadie @ Feb 1 2008, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (zeppyrkr @ Feb 1 2008, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ahwahoo2006 @ Feb 1 2008, 08:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As mentioned before, nicotine is measured per gram of tobacco. The weight of shisha includes the molasses too, so there is a big discrepancy.


yeah surprisingly i heard that its only like 30% tobacco and terms of weight (grams) i could be wrong, but yeah much of the weight comes from the molasses,flavoring,ect.



I don't mean to hijack the thread or anything, but on the same note, Starbuzz shows 0% tar. Anybody know if this statement is true as well?


well from what ive heard no, they don't put tar in tobacco, tar forms when it burns so its impossible to make it 0% tar, again its just something ive heard and could be completely wrong.
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seems like people are getting confused with .5% and 5% there is a difference.

if you measure it like you would measure how much tobacco, how much glycerin etc. then there would be roughly 1.25g in the entire box.

thats if you measure implying the whole box is tobacco... now if only 30% of the 250g box is tobacco and .5% of that is nicotine then you get even lower with only 75g being shisha at 30% of the box thats .375g of nicotine if you use that calculation.

i think i did all that math right...
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For the record, nicotine really isn't dangerous, just addictive (unless its taken in HUGE doses)

Whats dangerous about cigarettes and the rest of the tobacco products is the tar. The number for the tar content listed on the box is misleading anyways.
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Tar forms in greater quantities with higher temp, so burning a cig creates more tar due to the burning vs. baking of shisha. and as far as nicotine and stuff I've never had a problem from pipe tobacco, cigars, or shisha with quiting for extended periods. Other than that if you're worried about the health risks here they are......death. Then again we will all die, but you have to admit asking what the health risks are to inhaling smoke is a lil loopy smile.gif
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