Al Fakher Uk Distribution

[jfaltous]

£9.99 for 250g wholesale? Correct me if I'm wrong, but that comes to $19.80 US (give or take)... most online sites sell that for $8 to $10. Do your duties and taxes come out to over 100%, or is this guy just ripping people off?

[Baric]

£9.99 for 250g wholesale? Correct me if I'm wrong, but that comes to $19.80 US (give or take)... most online sites sell that for $8 to $10. Do your duties and taxes come out to over 100%, or is this guy just ripping people off?

Yeah our taxes are crazy - i actually thought those prices were too good to be true lol AF 250g sells for around £30 from internet retailers here so £10 is amazing. When you consider if you order from abroad you can be looking at £30 of shipping plus the chance customs will charge you more, £10 can be seen as alright.

[jfaltous]

Yeah, I know the pain of taxes but I didn't think it would hit that hard on wholesalers in the UK. The local dealer of AF sells 50g for $30 (~£15)

[r1v3th3ad]

wow man, that is rough. It does sound legit though

[Johnny_D]

That's wholesale. Chances are you can double that or retail.

Baric is talking out of his ass on his breakdown of international charges. It can often work out cheaper to order from abroad. God only knows how many thread i've broken it down in.

JD

[Baric]

That's wholesale. Chances are you can double that or retail.

Baric is talking out of his ass on his breakdown of international charges. It can often work out cheaper to order from abroad. God only knows how many thread i've broken it down in.

JD

Wow, sorry didn't know i was offending you that badly when i merely said that we have high taxes in the UK but that £10 per item with UK shipping is cheaper than £6 an item with international shipping, which regularly comes to £20-£30 when i order. I wasnt actually saying that its cheaper to order from within the UK - in fact i dont even agree with that myself. Not really sure why you took it that way???

[addicted2shisha]

Hey guys i spoke to the guy in charge of UK distribution a few weeks ago. Their retail price is going to be £10 but it still works out much cheaper ordering from the US. I get my AF from the local shops at £10 so really there aint a big deal. Because me and my friends get through so much tobacco i inquired about bulk orders but you have to order something like a minimum of 6kg per flavour to get business rates. And to be honest they were pretty crap too.

Just to clarify why the official retailers are so expensive- tax £16 per kilo!

Hope you guys in the US realise how lucky you are!!!!

[Johnny_D]

Not sure I agree with you.

Let me show you :-

1 250g of layalina,
1 250g of fusion
1 250g of fantasia
1 100g of Fumari
1 box of exotica
1 new funnel bowl

Total Including 3 day super fast shipping=$136 = £68

Show me anywhere in the uk where you can get 3 250g's of tobacco, coals, and a funnel bowl for that?

Apart from the fact you cannot get these items.

Buying from america is not as expensive as people make out. And I order like this a lot.

No offence taken - It just pisses me off when people have no idea what they are talking about. You claimed £30 shipping. I pay £10 shipping internally for such an order. And I've never paid a damn penny to customs. Ever.

JD

[addicted2shisha]

Definately agree with JD. I have two orders going through with southsmoke and AFonline- after shipping each 250g tub is costing me less than £8 (before forum discount!). Seen as i'm ordering shisha flavours that i can't even get in the UK it's well worth ordering from the US!

[Baric]

Not sure I agree with you.

Let me show you :-

1 250g of layalina,
1 250g of fusion
1 250g of fantasia
1 100g of Fumari
1 box of exotica
1 new funnel bowl

Total Including 3 day super fast shipping=$136 = £68

Show me anywhere in the uk where you can get 3 250g's of tobacco, coals, and a funnel bowl for that?

Apart from the fact you cannot get these items.

Buying from america is not as expensive as people make out. And I order like this a lot.

No offence taken - It just pisses me off when people have no idea what they are talking about. You claimed £30 shipping. I pay £10 shipping internally for such an order. And I've never paid a damn penny to customs. Ever.

JD

If you look at what i actually posted rather than what you seem to be reading into it, i never claimed that in general the UK was cheaper, i was saying on a ONE item basis paying £10 for shisha here and the £6 you would in the US then getting them shipped.
I would like to think i have some idea what im talking about - i too order plenty from the US and have twice payed £30 charges to customs, so it does happen, but i too am a fan of ordering large quantities from abroad. Edited February 5, 2008 by Baric

[manic007]

Man it looks like those JD Group people have put up their RRP price! It went from £9.99 to £12.99 for a box of 250grams!

I enquired about buying a AF hookah from these guys (well I emailed AF directly and they told me to deal with their UK distrobuter, JDGroup PLC - hey JD, you wouldn't have anything to do with these people? ). Suffice to say they didn't reply about the hookah, but ever few weeks they email me about tobacco!

On a plus side I used the fact that the RRP of AF is £9.99 to get a shop on Edgware Road to lower its price from £20 to £11 She said the rent on Edgware Road is really high and so they have to reflect that in the price, which I can understand.

Oh, reminds me, got to post a review about my 36inch AF hookah which I got from AFOnline - man this thing suffers from quality control issues! Bet they sent me the crap one, knowing full well I'll cost me like £60 to send it back!

[Johnny_D]

- i too order plenty from the US and have twice payed £30 charges to customs, so it does happen, but i too am a fan of ordering large quantities from abroad.

Where/who do you order from?

I've had over 50 orders in teh past year from one vendor and never had customs problems.

Unless your ordering 10's of Kilo's I guess... I've had a 'keep it small' policy in order to avoid our customs people.

[jfaltous]

Man it looks like those JD Group people have put up their RRP price! It went from £9.99 to £12.99 for a box of 250grams!

I enquired about buying a AF hookah from these guys (well I emailed AF directly and they told me to deal with their UK distrobuter, JDGroup PLC - hey JD, you wouldn't have anything to do with these people? ). Suffice to say they didn't reply about the hookah, but ever few weeks they email me about tobacco!

On a plus side I used the fact that the RRP of AF is £9.99 to get a shop on Edgware Road to lower its price from £20 to £11 She said the rent on Edgware Road is really high and so they have to reflect that in the price, which I can understand.

Oh, reminds me, got to post a review about my 36inch AF hookah which I got from AFOnline - man this thing suffers from quality control issues! Bet they sent me the crap one, knowing full well I'll cost me like £60 to send it back!

Way to make me concerned... I'm expecting my 36" AF to arrive this afternoon

[DrShisha]

First of all i have ordered id say 4 kilos from vendors in the US to the UK and never i had a problem and iv never worried regarding customs anyhow, i trust my sellers and they look after us and are after our happiness as well as our business, ask anyone about mnhookah for example. Hell why would you wanna order MORE than 4 kilos anyway in one go? thats a lot and iv been fine with it. Being honest my local shop sells al fakher 250g for 9.95 *shrugs*, and still i buy from alfakheronline or something because i can get it down to 7 quid with a 2 kilo order. JD will know what hes talkin about and i appreciate the OPs comments and its what he percieves is a good deal, if the guy is happy with what hes gettin for his buck, then i dont have any qualms with such things.

[manic007]

Man it looks like those JD Group people have put up their RRP price! It went from £9.99 to £12.99 for a box of 250grams!

I enquired about buying a AF hookah from these guys (well I emailed AF directly and they told me to deal with their UK distrobuter, JDGroup PLC - hey JD, you wouldn't have anything to do with these people? ). Suffice to say they didn't reply about the hookah, but ever few weeks they email me about tobacco!

On a plus side I used the fact that the RRP of AF is £9.99 to get a shop on Edgware Road to lower its price from £20 to £11 She said the rent on Edgware Road is really high and so they have to reflect that in the price, which I can understand.

Oh, reminds me, got to post a review about my 36inch AF hookah which I got from AFOnline - man this thing suffers from quality control issues! Bet they sent me the crap one, knowing full well I'll cost me like £60 to send it back!

Way to make me concerned... I'm expecting my 36" AF to arrive this afternoon

Well mine has some SERIOUS air bubbles in the base! Some of the air bubbles are right upto the surface and if I had a pin I could probably burt them. And the stem has all these pit marks on it, with one being about 2mm deep - i kid you not! Also the print on the base is a bit awry in parts. And finally the grommet for the stem to base is not very air tight, I had to put some electrical tape underneath it. After that, it smokes rather well. But the QC issues really bug me! Especially since I emailed them before hand telling them to check it before sending it to me

I'm sure yours will smoke fine. Its only when you look closely that you see the defects

[Shisha.Bubbly]

£9.99 for 250g wholesale? Correct me if I'm wrong, but that comes to $19.80 US (give or take)... most online sites sell that for $8 to $10. Do your duties and taxes come out to over 100%, or is this guy just ripping people off?

In England hookah smokers say "There is no god for dogs". They have double the price taxes as regular sales tax, enjoyment tax, tobacco tax, and an added tax to keep anyone but theives and pickpockets from smoking tobacco products.
What you pay lets say $2 for a shisha pack, will pay the worth ammount of $5 for. And if they buy 5 packs?
Secondly, going online checking Al-Fakher 3 and 4 years back, I was directed to their Michigan warehouse and company. The area a bit west of Detroit like Yisilanti has the largest ethnic ARAB, not all Muslem in the usa. The site had borscht fried in zilch-nada for info at least 2 years running.
They were basically telling you in a nice way "We are wholesalers who sell in large cargo shipping tanks. You want ONLY 5000 kilo, maybe if we have left-overs .....call us in 30 days from now, please".

[Shisha.Bubbly]

First of all i have ordered id say 4 kilos from vendors in the US to the UK and never i had a problem and iv never worried regarding customs anyhow, i trust my sellers and they look after us and are after our happiness as well as our business, ask anyone about mnhookah for example. Hell why would you wanna order MORE than 4 kilos anyway in one go? thats a lot and iv been fine with it. Being honest my local shop sells al fakher 250g for 9.95 *shrugs*, and still i buy from alfakheronline or something because i can get it down to 7 quid with a 2 kilo order. JD will know what hes talkin about and i appreciate the OPs comments and its what he percieves is a good deal, if the guy is happy with what hes gettin for his buck, then i dont have any qualms with such things.

around 4 years ago, Al-Fakher rejects or non Al-Fakher in Al-Fakher boxes and insignia bags were being smuggled in to ONLY Great Britain, since they pay a high price for all tobacco from Taxes.
Since 4 years ago Al-Fakher puts a company halogram on all their products so "You Know" it the real thing.
Once I bought 18 or more flavours, packed them in tobacco bowls covered with tin foil and into a baggie with no flavour name on each one. (I had left the tobacco out for around 18 hours spread out to acclimatize). Of many fruit flavours I found around 2 groups of 6 each to be more or less the same.(to my taste and palate).Some of my favourites like Melon,cherry, mint were disastors (to my unre-fined tastes).
It does smoke well for a very long time, but so do many Jordanian flavours like Saet-Safa, Abed El-Khader, Al-Ouns and Al-Kaline (3 pronged pun).Look for the halogram on the box or bag as the official sign of "Kosher" by Baharain "Fatwa".

[shisha fan]

Not sure I agree with you.

Let me show you :-

1 250g of layalina,
1 250g of fusion
1 250g of fantasia
1 100g of Fumari
1 box of exotica
1 new funnel bowl

Total Including 3 day super fast shipping=$136 = £68

Show me anywhere in the uk where you can get 3 250g's of tobacco, coals, and a funnel bowl for that?

Apart from the fact you cannot get these items.

Buying from america is not as expensive as people make out. And I order like this a lot.

No offence taken - It just pisses me off when people have no idea what they are talking about. You claimed £30 shipping. I pay £10 shipping internally for such an order. And I've never paid a damn penny to customs. Ever.

JD

couldn`t agree more.
it is definately worth it for us europeans to buy from the US, especially from mnhookah.


i ordered this last week and it should be here tomorow:

pharaoh`s:

-blackberry
-exotic peach
-golden guava

al fakher:

-watermelon
-plum
-mango
-strawberry

layalina:

-strawberry kiwi
-blackberry
-raspberry
-peach

the total of my order was $160 (109 euros) with 5-7 day shipping. i could never ever find such a good deal in my country, and besides i can only find nakhla, al waha and moassel salloum over here.