Switch Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 (edited) So my question is this. Is it the chamber size and shape of the KM's that makes them smoke so well, Is it the hose diameter. Or is it simply that most people who own them just know how to set them up well, proper brands of shisha and heat distribution. I have a Mya and it smokes IMO absolutly fantastic. just looking for input if i am to someday buy one Edited February 20, 2008 by Switch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeppyrkr Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 from what ive heard, i have no personally experiences, but i guess its just the overall package, everything about them makes any one make it smoke to perfection or so i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeathatsawesome Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 i just ordered one so when i get it maybe i can share a little on what makes it smoke so good, but for now im just patiently waiting excited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookah hippie Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 I've been thinking about buying myself a hafa not a big fan of the new base it comes with though compared to the old clear one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinthecity Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 looks like a standard egyptian base...cant go wrong w/ it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename067 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 (edited) Everything.In mroe detail:They Smoke flawlessly Easy, smooth pullsThey are very ReliableTheir purging valves work like a dream [yes i care about that, everyone that does not should too =)]Always produce thick smoke with big cloudsand so on.Amazing Argeeleh's.Edit: If you think a Mya is amazing, you are in for a crazy ride when you get a KM. Some people will disagree with this statement, but trust me, many more others will concur. Edited February 20, 2008 by Codename067 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechAnt Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Their build quality is rock solid (although they don't have the prettiest welds)They smoke amazingly(Like Codename said) they purge like no otherIf taken care of well, they will last you for damn long timeIt's well known that I'm quite the MZ fanboy but I can easily say that KM's are great pipes. I just love MZ's better . I love MYA as well. They only bad thing about MYA's is that they don't purge extremely well due to their common chamber but that is easily fixed with a bendy straw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NarghileNights Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 QUOTE (Codename067 @ Feb 20 2008, 12:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Everything.In mroe detail:They Smoke flawlessly (how can you say MYAs don't?)Easy, smooth pulls (read above)They are very Reliable (have you seen the build quality on these things lately?)Their purging valves work like a dream [yes i care about that, everyone that does not should too =)] (agreed)Always produce thick smoke with big clouds (read above)and so on.Amazing Argeeleh's.Edit: If you think a Mya is amazing, you are in for a crazy ride when you get a KM. Some people will disagree with this statement, but trust me, many more others will concur. I have been able to smoke out of one of these, actually just last night. I agree that these hookahs are far superior than your average egyptian, but so is a MYA..QUOTE (MechAnt @ Feb 20 2008, 12:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Their build quality is rock solid (although they don't have the prettiest welds) (The welds are always one thing that scare me. The quality control coming out of Egypt seems to not be up to par with the rest of the world.)They smoke amazingly (Same thing as above, so do MYAs)(Like Codename said) they purge like no otherIf taken care of well, they will last you for damn long time (same with a MYA.. they actually do 3 year warranties on their stems - only excluding the bambino, chic, and the QT. How can you argue with that?)It's well known that I'm quite the MZ fanboy but I can easily say that KM's are great pipes. I just love MZ's better . I love MYA as well. They only bad thing about MYA's is that they don't purge extremely well due to their common chamber but that is easily fixed with a bendy straw.I don't HATE KM or MZ.. in fact they are great great great hookahs.I always compare it to if you had 500k to spend on a car. At that point it isn't which is better (they are all better), but which one you prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 i think im gonna get a horas B and a KM black pear.why just buy one when you really want both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename067 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 (edited) Woah there buddy, easy.I have smoked the Arclyic Mya before [sp], pull was not as nice as an Egyptian., their purging valves did not work well, the smoke was not thick nor did the hookah hit.I talk according to experience, I never mouth off. I have not tried any other Mya, and I don't need to. or rather, i dont want to. i am VERY happy with what I have. And no, i have not seen the quality of KMs lately. Why, are they bad? horrible?*looks at sig, selling Mya........ * I think i saw enough. [as in, you are a mya guy, thats why u are 'defending' it]Edit 2. i dont HATE myas either, i just did not like them. Edited February 20, 2008 by Codename067 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NarghileNights Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 We are talking about the acrylic mya.. the lowest end MYA that you can buy.. maybe that is the issue.I didnt say they were bad quality hookahs, but seeing weld marks and tinning just doesnt seem like there is much attention to detail, and I know I am selling MYA. I don't think that is the point. I never said that I [edit - saw your edit:)] dislike KM or MZ. They are all GREAT hookahs. I guess I just don't understand the dislike towards MYA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename067 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 (edited) I never said that you hated either one bro, you already made the point that they are great hookahs. i understand you. i myself can not say that MYA's are great UNTIL i smoke a great one. you know what i mean? until that happens, i am going to stick with what I got because i am 200% satisfied with them. Perhaps someone can buy me a sweet Mya to add to the collection? lol =PAnd i suppose the fact that it is one of the lowest quality mya hookah made me not want to smoke it more often. i was just disappointed [speaking of the acrylic]and i dont think its "hate" against Myas, its just people disliking them because it has disappointed them in the past, too. like me.With that said, i really gotta go to bed. class in 5 hours 30 mins gn all Edited February 20, 2008 by Codename067 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louman3333 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 anyone have a link to the km website or know any good distributors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boulderkid303 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Hookah company is the best site to get em from. I personally agree with Codename in the fact that Km is my favorite pipe aswell PS- I also love mya's and own many..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louman3333 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 QUOTE (louman3333 @ Feb 20 2008, 04:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>anyone have a link to the km website or know any good distributors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louman3333 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 anyone own this???http://www.hookahcompany.com/mash_al_khali...h_3045_prd1.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switch Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 from what i understand a lot of people have been ordering it, check the review section or wait a week when everyones orders comes in. its probably terrific though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 looks great, but i dont want to buy the bucket and the pricetag is too much for me, ill stick to my trimetal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassinho Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Im pretty new on this hookah thing but since i started to read the forums, i've alway though why you guys talk about how good/thick/puffy smoke clouds a hookah does.IMHO, unless there's a leak, all the smoke is produced cuz of the interaction between the shisha and the coals, so the smoke probably depends more on shisha and coals than the whole hookah, maybe the bowl is more of a factor than the brand of your hookah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switch Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 i think the vase and hose plays a part too, as far as how much smoke is allowed through, but as a whole i agree with you, its more a setup issue. unless u just get an absolutly shitty hookah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenSilk Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 The core is wider than normal in my KM. Breathing through it is the same as breathing normally. Also, the vaccum you create when inhaling is more concentrated and therefore stronger leading to better smoke quality (compared to a common chamber hookah, where you pull from a wide, hollow heart). In the KM you are pulling through one tiny hole so the smoke is directed at a more efficient rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassinho Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 But everypart into your hookah where there's air, it's replaced with smoke, so, maybe it's easier to pull but you'll get as much smoke as you inhale since, everything inside is smoke, not air, right? unless there's a leak and you're inhaling air from outside too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenSilk Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 QUOTE (cassinho @ Feb 20 2008, 11:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>But everypart into your hookah where there's air, it's replaced with smoke, so, maybe it's easier to pull but you'll get as much smoke as you inhale since, everything inside is smoke, not air, right? unless there's a leak and you're inhaling air from outside tooMyabe i should have worded that differently. .You get a better Pull off of a KM (smoke quality a maybe... ). And yes, you are right, i have stated that before as well. . Smoke is all-throughout the hookah, and the hose, it doesn't dissipate quickly in an enclosed space. BUT, KM's have the bell on the end of the Downstem that re-directs smoke filled bubbles, slows them down as well. What this does to the actual SMOKE, if anything, i can't say; but it does keep the turbulence of the bubbles low and in a way manages them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switch Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 so putting a diffuser on a mya would accomplish the same thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZenSilk Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Diffusers are meant to "Hydrate" the smoke, make it thicker and whiter and cooler and fluffier. Whether they actually do that is a mystery to me, but they are not meant to do the same thing as the bell on a KM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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