Ghetto Byrd Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Ok since i got your attention, just wondering if any of you guys buy shisha online where do you buy it from that does not have RIDICULOUS shipping costs, because it seems that you try and buy some good discounted goods and get boned up your ass by shipping costs. A site using Paypal is a plus but i think very unlikely. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Love this site btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_smith001 Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Theres no real winner in the shipping department as far as online stores go, I just posted about setting up an internal trade system within canada with people who have local shops.. would you be interested in that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaia.plateau Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 The local shops are brutal here... 50g of Nakhla for $17.99. I usually order from MNHookah, when you order over a kilo at a time the shipping costs become fairly reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_smith001 Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 QUOTE (gaia.plateau @ Mar 3 2008, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The local shops are brutal here... 50g of Nakhla for $17.99. I usually order from MNHookah, when you order over a kilo at a time the shipping costs become fairly reasonable.do you get hit with mad duty/taxes though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perrj99 Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 The key is to not have to pay those duties and taxes. Have the company you're ordering from label the package as something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghetto Byrd Posted March 3, 2008 Author Share Posted March 3, 2008 (edited) The problem i have with local shops is they have low quality, and over priced 50g 11 bucks and there not even good it made me gag and disgusted with my hookah. I'd be interested in an internal system if we could get a good supplier/supply here. I'm in Toronto ON. If only you imported it yourself we're allowed to bring a ridiculous amount of tobacco. Got to get in contact with my cousin in India see if she can bring me a good stock. Edited March 3, 2008 by Ghetto Byrd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKammenzind Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Geeze... you canadian types pay as much for a 50 gram as I do for a 250 (or more!) If I lived up there I'd be sorely tempted to grow my own tobacco and smoke homemade shisha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghetto Byrd Posted March 3, 2008 Author Share Posted March 3, 2008 OR open a business i would interim it if there was a good supplier i can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinamon Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 QUOTE (Ghetto Byrd @ Mar 3 2008, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>OR open a business i would interim it if there was a good supplier i can get.i looked in to selling shisha tobacco. its not worth all the hassle because to buy from a supplier you would need a vendors permit. once you have the vendors permit then you need a tobacco license. once you have that, the government will be watching you and the taxes.there are some smaller persian shops that will sell 250g nakhla for $20. i even picked up a 250g nakhla sweet melon last summer for $10 cuz my friend knew the owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaia.plateau Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 QUOTE (s_smith001 @ Mar 3 2008, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (gaia.plateau @ Mar 3 2008, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The local shops are brutal here... 50g of Nakhla for $17.99. I usually order from MNHookah, when you order over a kilo at a time the shipping costs become fairly reasonable.do you get hit with mad duty/taxes though?There are no federal tax laws against shisha... any duties or taxes you get are provincially applied on behalf of presumed federal law, which makes them illegitimate. If you get taxed, appeal it, you'll win. I've done it thrice. MNhookah is good about labelling packages as fruit molasses, and as a gift, however. It saves hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Devils Playground Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Im will smply say you need to find a Vendor/ site that will make it from a person not a business decalre the tobacco as food flavoing and not rip you off on shipping. I feel a reputable dealer will be willing to do all that for international customers.I know from the USA you can get 12 250G cans of buzz or up to 22 250G out of the cans shipped for right at like $22.00I will not name names but several vendors seem to charge an extra handling. Not cool, you had to pack it for anywhere it goes anyways why rape the customers for not speaking perfect english.Just my opinion but if you are a dealer reading this think it over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfaltous Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 I can say that I order from MNH and TDP all the time, both of them ship quickly and pack the items well, and the price is very reasonable (especially compared to local shops). Both of those vendors are great with customs forms, and as Neal pointed out both of them ship the items from an individual, not a business, meaning you're far less likely to get hit with duties.As gaia said, there's no tax laws specific to shisha, however there is significant taxes on "manufactured tobacco", so the impression I get is whoever you end up dealing with at customs is the one who will make the call on that. I don't think it's worth risking it personally, and luckily I haven't had to worry about it Plus, if you make a large order then you'll end up paying a significant amount on basic duties, taxes, brokerage fees, processing fees, etc... and those have nothing to do with tobacco, meaning you can't argue your way out of them. Best way to avoid that is use someone who will mark the package as a "gift" with a lower value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadalebchick Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I've been ordering from hookah-shisha.com and never had to pay, but i just got stiffed yesterday i only ordered 3 250g packs and now i have to go pay 190.40 to pick up my order at the post office. I usually get my stuff shipped expressed but i cheaped out this time lol. southsmoke.com is good too but they have a limited selection of tumbak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erufiku Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 Shipping costs are actually low if you compare them to what you would pay locally (in my case, 20$/250g Nakhla and 35%/250g AF). Last I ordered, I got 11 boxes of shisha, paid 26$ shipping. That's just a bit over $2/box of good shisha that you can't buy in Canada.On a side note, it is sad to think that buying NHT's (including the hard ones) is easier and often cheaper than legally getting some mo'assel north of the 49th parallel... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_smith001 Posted March 8, 2008 Share Posted March 8, 2008 QUOTE (canadalebchick @ Mar 6 2008, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've been ordering from hookah-shisha.com and never had to pay, but i just got stiffed yesterday i only ordered 3 250g packs and now i have to go pay 190.40 to pick up my order at the post office. I usually get my stuff shipped expressed but i cheaped out this time lol. southsmoke.com is good too but they have a limited selection of tumbak$190.40????? on 750g... you can't be serious.. SEE this is what were afraid of.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molson Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 i bought 1.5kg off hookah shisha once and it didnt get caught. the time before that i got about 1kg of social smoke. both times i bought a hookah and coals abd everything so that pakages were big, social smoke even said tobacco on it and they didnt bust me.luck of the draw i guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadalebchick Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 QUOTE (s_smith001 @ Mar 8 2008, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (canadalebchick @ Mar 6 2008, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've been ordering from hookah-shisha.com and never had to pay, but i just got stiffed yesterday i only ordered 3 250g packs and now i have to go pay 190.40 to pick up my order at the post office. I usually get my stuff shipped expressed but i cheaped out this time lol. southsmoke.com is good too but they have a limited selection of tumbak$190.40????? on 750g... you can't be serious.. SEE this is what were afraid of....Yup, i couldnt believe it either, i guess it makes a difference if u get them shipped express, watch me get caught again. but the shitty thing is i got charged 138 for PST, and i live in alberta we dont pay pst. so i had to mail that form back requesting a refund of the 138, we'll see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_smith001 Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 QUOTE (canadalebchick @ Mar 10 2008, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>$190.40????? on 750g... you can't be serious.. SEE this is what were afraid of....Yup, i couldnt believe it either, i guess it makes a difference if u get them shipped express, watch me get caught again. but the shitty thing is i got charged 138 for PST, and i live in alberta we dont pay pst. so i had to mail that form back requesting a refund of the 138, we'll see what happens.did you get a hookah too, or was it only the 3 tubs of shisha? thats a freakin lot of PST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadalebchick Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 QUOTE (s_smith001 @ Mar 10 2008, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (canadalebchick @ Mar 10 2008, 04:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>$190.40????? on 750g... you can't be serious.. SEE this is what were afraid of....Yup, i couldnt believe it either, i guess it makes a difference if u get them shipped express, watch me get caught again. but the shitty thing is i got charged 138 for PST, and i live in alberta we dont pay pst. so i had to mail that form back requesting a refund of the 138, we'll see what happens.did you get a hookah too, or was it only the 3 tubs of shisha? thats a freakin lot of PSTnope just 3 cans of starbuzz...i called them and asked why i was getting charged a gazillion percent in pst when i dont even have to pay it here. but the guy wasnt too friendly. (damn it i was like hi how are u? he was like what can i do for u/) but yeat he told me to fill out the back side of the slip and request a refund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jahookah Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 190 bucks OMG!I had to pay $168 for 5 packs of 250G tangiers.How do you appeal it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadalebchick Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 QUOTE (jahookah @ Mar 11 2008, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>190 bucks OMG!I had to pay $168 for 5 packs of 250G tangiers.How do you appeal it?on the back side of the slip that explains what they charged u for. u fill it out and mail it back to them, and hope they'll feel sorry for u and refund it lol. i highly doubt i'll get my money back, but hopefully i wont get charged again on my next order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfaltous Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 QUOTE (The Devils Playground @ Mar 4 2008, 04:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I will not name names but several vendors seem to charge an extra handling. Not cool, you had to pack it for anywhere it goes anyways why rape the customers for not speaking perfect english.haha, slow response I know... but Neal, are you insinuating that Canadians dont speak perfect english? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghetto Byrd Posted March 12, 2008 Author Share Posted March 12, 2008 LOL Neal's doesn't likke us because we say aboot, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chinamon Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 QUOTE (jfaltous @ Mar 12 2008, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (The Devils Playground @ Mar 4 2008, 04:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I will not name names but several vendors seem to charge an extra handling. Not cool, you had to pack it for anywhere it goes anyways why rape the customers for not speaking perfect english.haha, slow response I know... but Neal, are you insinuating that Canadians dont speak perfect english? hahha. my comclusion after reading neal's posts is that his grammar and spelling aren't very great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadalebchick Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 QUOTE (canadalebchick @ Mar 10 2008, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (s_smith001 @ Mar 8 2008, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (canadalebchick @ Mar 6 2008, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I've been ordering from hookah-shisha.com and never had to pay, but i just got stiffed yesterday i only ordered 3 250g packs and now i have to go pay 190.40 to pick up my order at the post office. I usually get my stuff shipped expressed but i cheaped out this time lol. southsmoke.com is good too but they have a limited selection of tumbak$190.40????? on 750g... you can't be serious.. SEE this is what were afraid of....Yup, i couldnt believe it either, i guess it makes a difference if u get them shipped express, watch me get caught again. but the shitty thing is i got charged 138 for PST, and i live in alberta we dont pay pst. so i had to mail that form back requesting a refund of the 138, we'll see what happens.K so i got my reply back from customs, they rejected my request to get the gazillion percent in pst they charged me back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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