Guest LondonShisha Posted October 22, 2005 Share Posted October 22, 2005 Still haven't managed to make a bowl that has a lot of flavour. I make sure I mix the tobacco well (store it in a airtight container), and loosly pack the bowl, leaving a gap at the top. I put 2 layers of foil (shiny side down) on it, and 2 pieces of natural wood coal. I llet it get hot for about 5 mins before smoking - I get a good amount of smoke, and the tobacco doesn't burn, but I don't get much of the taste at all. Just plenty of reasonably thick smoke.Tried AF apple, strawberry, and Havana apple, with more or less the same results. One thing I noticed today after smoking, is that the tobacco drips down the shaft - I can see it dripping if I lift the bowl off the grommet. Could that be an indication of something?Not sure what élse i'm doing wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted October 22, 2005 Share Posted October 22, 2005 No, the dripping is normal, especially for realy wet brands such as Al Fahker. Try just using 1 piece of foil. I'ver heard of one other person on here using 2 pieces, don't remember why, but its not necesasry. Give one foil a shot. If it gets too hot, take some heat off. Try to get your bowl to a point where its almost too hot, but not burning. You'll get the most out of your session. This is the only way I like to smoke. I can't stand it when I'm smoking with my friends and I can tell that there isn't enough heat on it, but they don't want to risk burning the tobacco by adding more coals. I guess you could say I like to live life on the edge But yeah, try using one foil, and get your bowl to the stage right before burning. Should get lots of smoke/flavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonShisha Posted October 22, 2005 Share Posted October 22, 2005 i've tried it with one foil with the same results, hence me trying 2 pieces. I think the tobacco does get hot enough - how else would I get smoke out of it? Do you think I should overload it with coal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 Well, i was just making sure you were getting it hot enough, and one way to do that is to put too many coals till it burns, then remove them to just the point where its no longer burning/harsh, then your left at a point where it should give max smoke/flavor. If you have tried this and still no success, I'm not really sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggroman Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 Things to check: - are your coals hot enough? Maybe you should try a reliable quick-light like 3 Kings just to compare. - Is the bowl packed loose enough and are you breaking the tobacco up completely? - Do you have the right amount of holes? Too much or not enough air will greatly affect the flavour. After I pack my bowl, I like to place my hand over the top and give a quick blow through the bottom, just to make sure the air will go through. I give it a few light taps to settle the ma'assel and then remove any excess if there is any. There should be a very small space (like 1 mm) between the foil and the top layer of the ma'assel. But none of this is gospel. It's a matter of trial and error. The trick is to keep trying things, but I suspect that your problem is related to coal heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laher Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 When comparing flavour between with me and my friends we came up with a conclusion that the pipe/hose has a very big effect on the amount of flavour and the harshness of the smoke aswell as the quantity of the smoke. I have 3 different pipes. On one of them the flavour is very strong however the smoke is lighter...with the other two pipes the flavour was very little but smoke being of much quantity. With one of the pipes with smoke was less harsher... Gonna try out my other 'smaller' hookah with all three pipes and post back replies.. Hope this has helped. I will post a pic of the pipe that gave out most flavour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonShisha Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 I tried putting more coals on - it gave more smoke, albeit a bit harsher but the taste is much the same - very little flavour.I think it must be the tobacco i'm using, or the way i'm storing it or something. I have tried al-fakher apple, strawberry, havana apple, nakhla apple, mint. The most flavour I got was out of a 50g packet of nakhla mint that I just opened.I'll keep on trying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 Hmm... i'd say you are doing it right. Good thick smoke means you've got air flow through the bowl and you SHOULD be tasting something, even if its burning and it tastes like crap. Have you had anyone ELSE try it and see what/if they taste anything? Are you a Cigarette smoker? damaged taste buds? sinus blockage? stuffed nose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LondonShisha Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 lol! Nope, nothing of the sort. I can taste sheesha's at the cafe's just fine. Maybe I should lend someone some of my tobacco and see if they can make it taste any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laher Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 I am telling you mate, the hose has a VERY big effect on the shisha flavour, if you lived up in the north id personally call you down for a session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyramidscheme Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 Ditch the hose. Go to Lowe's or Home Depot and get a 3 ft. piece of transparent plastic tubing from the plumbing section that can be inserted into the hose connection of your pipe. If there's any flavour in your massell, you will taste it then. Cheap, and easily replaceable, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 [quote name='pyramidscheme']Ditch the hose. Go to Lowe's or Home Depot and get a 3 ft. piece of transparent plastic tubing from the plumbing section that can be inserted into the hose connection of your pipe. If there's any flavour in your massell, you will taste it then. Cheap, and easily replaceable, too.[/quote] 3 ft? Don't be a wuss, get the 10' or even the 20' vinyl tubing I like to get the 20' vinyl tubing for like 3.99 or 4.99 and just cut it into sections so that when one finally get too dirty, I just toss it and use a new one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LB] Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 [quote name='Yashman19'][quote name='pyramidscheme']Ditch the hose. Go to Lowe's or Home Depot and get a 3 ft. piece of transparent plastic tubing from the plumbing section that can be inserted into the hose connection of your pipe. If there's any flavour in your massell, you will taste it then. Cheap, and easily replaceable, too.[/quote] 3 ft? Don't be a wuss, get the 10' or even the 20' vinyl tubing I like to get the 20' vinyl tubing for like 3.99 or 4.99 and just cut it into sections so that when one finally get too dirty, I just toss it and use a new one. [/quote] hahahahahhaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 now you know..that hose can outga...oh never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsraelEnigma Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 [quote name='pyramidscheme']Ditch the hose. Go to Lowe's or Home Depot and get a 3 ft. piece of transparent plastic tubing from the plumbing section that can be inserted into the hose connection of your pipe. If there's any flavour in your massell, you will taste it then. Cheap, and easily replaceable, too.[/quote] you serious? that works? do u have a picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Now I'm not saying ditch the hookah hose, but since you are curious about the tubing method, I thought I would help you out I also don't think you arn't getting proper flavor just because you are using a traditional hookah hose, but they work well. Well here is a picture of my clear vinyl tube being used with a standard 36" egyptian hookah. [img]http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3294/img21050dc.jpg[/img] And here is a closeup: [img]http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/1091/img21060ri.jpg[/img] With most classic hookahs, they will have similar hose nozzles to this, and you just stick the vinyl tube as far as it will go until it stops. This gives you pretty much 100% air-tightness, so don't worry. I got my vinyl tubing from Home Depot. It was $3.99 for 20' of it. It comes in 10' also, but get the 20' and cut it into 6' sections, so then you have extras. These are easy to clean, and dirt cheap, cheaper than the Myas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkeema Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 im still trying to find that !! only place i think has it now is the aquarium shop - 30minutes away by bus . asked everywhere and yet no one has it !! soon enough i should be going near the pet shop so ill ask there , the actual pipes called ' airline tubing' used to tanks right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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