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I've been playing around with the idea of making something to help cool
the smoke. I was thinking of spiraled copper tubing connected to the
bottom of the stem, which would basically increase the surface of the
stem in the water. The copper would get very cold from the ice in the
water, and would thus cool the smoke greatly. Would this work? I use
the same design on my weekend bracket drag car, to supercool my fuel
for a denser intake charge when it wants to vapor-lock on me.


Also, I was thinking about using both of my hookahs at the same time to
"double" filter the smoke. I dont even know if it would be a nice
experiance, but Im going to try it. I'll load my egyptian with fruit,
coal, water, and ice. Then run the hose into the top of the stem on my
stargate(with no boal, sealing it with tape). Then besides the bowl,
set it up normally- with water and ice in the base. This would pull the
smoke through the water in the egyptian, and then again through the
water of my stargate, and then into my lungs. Haha it'll certainly be
interesting to try.



It would look like this:

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/Chevy72blu/Doublefilter.jpg[/img]

Has anyone else tried of either of these?
I was really bored in class the other day.
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This was posted by me not TOO long ago, but maybe you wern't around yet. It works well.

[img]http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/8494/img11202le.jpg[/img]

[img]http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/5110/img11240pm.jpg[/img]

As you can see, this was just the test run so I didn't use any ice, but
it worked well. You would think it would be much harder to pull on, but
I could barley notice a difference. And if wondering where I got those
tubes from, they sell it at Home Depot. Vinyl tubes for like 2.99 for
10' or 3.99 for 20' or something like that.
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hmm, I'll try the hose freezing trick. Thats a good idea.


No, I wasnt around then Yash, sorry. Was it a nice smoke? Did it
improve the quality of it at least- or was flavor filtered out as
hitman said?


I know it would be more dificult to produce the same velocity of smoke, But the stargate draws really easilly.
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I would only recomend that you fill the extra chamber with a bit more
water, because at the level I had it out, there was sooo much smoke
building up that I couldn't clear it with one hit so the smoke would
start to get stale in there.

If you raise the water level though, it would work better. I didn't
notice any loss of taste or any difficulty in pulling on the hose.
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[quote name='[lebanese_blonde']]thats f**king sweet man! how long did it take
to make, and what are the positive effects of doing it anyway?[/quote]

The hardest part was finding things to make it out of I guess. I looked
in some of my friends dormrooms and yanked that plastic tub, then just
drilled two holes through, then slowly shaved the holes bigger using
scisors, then just used extra grommets to make it airtight.

I'd say the obvious plus was getting the smoke extra cold. Like I said,
that was just the trial run without ice. When I put ice, I filled that
thing 3/4ths with ice and then water and it was freezing cold.

I didn't notice the pull was any worse which a lot of people are
worried about, but the only thing I can recomend is that when using
such a large second chamber like I did, make sure you fill the
ice/water level pretty high, because if you don't, you're gunna get too
much smoke in there, and it will get stale and taste worse, but if you
fill it pretty high, you should be good.

I don't know what happened to my contraption. I think I need to find another container to use and make myself another one ;)
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[quote name='Lakemonster']Nope. dont have a stargate....  
I couldnt pull that off with a molded acrylic vase... not sure how
the stargate bases go together to know if I could take one apart to put
in the works.
just illuistrating a self-contained concept.[/quote]

Ahh ok, just wondering cause it looked similar to a Stargate base.

Just remember though, with a design like that, you might have a problem
with water from the first level getting into the second level. I have
friends who have tried making homemade bongs with that same type of
idea, and they ran into water spreading problems.

Shouldn't be too hard though.
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This is what I was thinking.

[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/Chevy72blu/cooler.jpg[/img]


Identical to my "cool-can" that I use for cooling the fuel on my drag car.


You could even route the tubing back up to the surface of the water, if you didnt want it to be filtered twice.

This would effectively multiply the ammount of time the smoke spends in
cold envrionment by about 10. Copper is an also an excellent
temperature conductor, and retains temperature for an exceptionally
long time. 3/8" can be found at any local autoparts store.

I'll try it out next weekend, and snap a few pics. I'll let ya know if its worth the time!
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Looks good, but just so you know, a purge valve is really not worth it.
If I were you, I'd stick to your design but just leave the purge valve
off, its just one more thing that can complicate things and make
something not work properly.

I didn't have one on my extra chamber, and never found myself needing
one, but if you can make it work then more power to ya, just letting
you know ;)
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Yashman - is it really worth the time and effort which goes into
it?  My hookah has a pretty small base and not much room to expand
(Mya carry case model) which is why I thought I could get better smoke
doing something like this.

So do you think it's worth it or not?
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[quote name='ZAP']Yashman - is it really worth the time and effort which goes into
it?  My hookah has a pretty small base and not much room to expand
(Mya carry case model) which is why I thought I could get better smoke
doing something like this.

So do you think it's worth it or not?[/quote]

Well, assuming you had everything you needed to make it already at
home, I'd say it would only take 20 minutes of work... The only part
that took any time at all was using scissors to slowly make the holes
big enough for the tubes to fit.

I already had a bunch of vinyl tubing at home because I use it for my
hoses anyways, and I just looked around for a bit and found the plastic
container.

Of course this thing is not a must have, but it was kinda cool to make
something out of supplies I had laying around, and yes it did get the
smoke quite a bit cooler than normal.

I'd say that if you have most of the supplies already, what could it
hurt to rig something similar to this up. If you have absoulutely
nothing, it might be a bit harder then.
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now i understand that the boxes are a little bit of a stretch, but i
cant think of any way to make the smoke go through the ice twice. I was
thinking a wall could be insterted into the boxes to make a pinche
point or somethign im not sure. The last box i will fill with water for
filtering purposes, the rest is just ice i guess.

[img]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/SillySnare/Untitled-1.jpg[/img]
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Why not just make all three boxes like the last, with water AND ice? It
would make more sense and the smoke will be forced to get filtered
again.

And just remember, how much cooler do you expect the smoke to get? If
you get too complex, you're gunna end up having a lot of excess smoke
sitting in the compartments getting stale.

Nice brainstorming though.
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