HookahDuck Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 I've been playing around with the idea of making something to help cool the smoke. I was thinking of spiraled copper tubing connected to the bottom of the stem, which would basically increase the surface of the stem in the water. The copper would get very cold from the ice in the water, and would thus cool the smoke greatly. Would this work? I use the same design on my weekend bracket drag car, to supercool my fuel for a denser intake charge when it wants to vapor-lock on me. Also, I was thinking about using both of my hookahs at the same time to "double" filter the smoke. I dont even know if it would be a nice experiance, but Im going to try it. I'll load my egyptian with fruit, coal, water, and ice. Then run the hose into the top of the stem on my stargate(with no boal, sealing it with tape). Then besides the bowl, set it up normally- with water and ice in the base. This would pull the smoke through the water in the egyptian, and then again through the water of my stargate, and then into my lungs. Haha it'll certainly be interesting to try. It would look like this: [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/Chevy72blu/Doublefilter.jpg[/img] Has anyone else tried of either of these? I was really bored in class the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 Interesting ideas. You're gonna have to really huff on the hose to get anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hookah hitman Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 Ive done both of these things. Its kinda neat, but too hard to pull. Alot of the flavor gets filtered out too. If you want ICE COLD SMOKE its simple. FREEZE THE HOSE. Nothing else. Try it. Freeze it for 2-3 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted October 23, 2005 Share Posted October 23, 2005 This was posted by me not TOO long ago, but maybe you wern't around yet. It works well. [img]http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/8494/img11202le.jpg[/img] [img]http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/5110/img11240pm.jpg[/img] As you can see, this was just the test run so I didn't use any ice, but it worked well. You would think it would be much harder to pull on, but I could barley notice a difference. And if wondering where I got those tubes from, they sell it at Home Depot. Vinyl tubes for like 2.99 for 10' or 3.99 for 20' or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahDuck Posted October 23, 2005 Author Share Posted October 23, 2005 hmm, I'll try the hose freezing trick. Thats a good idea. No, I wasnt around then Yash, sorry. Was it a nice smoke? Did it improve the quality of it at least- or was flavor filtered out as hitman said? I know it would be more dificult to produce the same velocity of smoke, But the stargate draws really easilly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted October 24, 2005 Share Posted October 24, 2005 I would only recomend that you fill the extra chamber with a bit more water, because at the level I had it out, there was sooo much smoke building up that I couldn't clear it with one hit so the smoke would start to get stale in there. If you raise the water level though, it would work better. I didn't notice any loss of taste or any difficulty in pulling on the hose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LB] Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 thats f**king sweet man! how long did it take to make, and what are the positive effects of doing it anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 [quote name='[lebanese_blonde']]thats f**king sweet man! how long did it take to make, and what are the positive effects of doing it anyway?[/quote] The hardest part was finding things to make it out of I guess. I looked in some of my friends dormrooms and yanked that plastic tub, then just drilled two holes through, then slowly shaved the holes bigger using scisors, then just used extra grommets to make it airtight. I'd say the obvious plus was getting the smoke extra cold. Like I said, that was just the trial run without ice. When I put ice, I filled that thing 3/4ths with ice and then water and it was freezing cold. I didn't notice the pull was any worse which a lot of people are worried about, but the only thing I can recomend is that when using such a large second chamber like I did, make sure you fill the ice/water level pretty high, because if you don't, you're gunna get too much smoke in there, and it will get stale and taste worse, but if you fill it pretty high, you should be good. I don't know what happened to my contraption. I think I need to find another container to use and make myself another one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahDuck Posted October 25, 2005 Author Share Posted October 25, 2005 Im definatly going to do it, with a similar setup. I'll take the carb off of one of my hookahs and use it as a purge valve on the lid =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hookah hitman Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 I dont think that physics would allow that, but nice try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakemonster Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 heres a concept drawing.... might work.... the main stem passes thru a grommet. The wavy lines are water lines... the center horizontal line is a divider. Acrylic/plexi construction. [img]http://www.patriotnetwork.net/pics/Untitled%20-%203.gif[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Thats pretty much how those elaborate double perk bongs work. Are you planning on somehow doing this to your Stargate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakemonster Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 Nope. dont have a stargate.... I couldnt pull that off with a molded acrylic vase... not sure how the stargate bases go together to know if I could take one apart to put in the works. just illuistrating a self-contained concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted October 25, 2005 Share Posted October 25, 2005 [quote name='Lakemonster']Nope. dont have a stargate.... I couldnt pull that off with a molded acrylic vase... not sure how the stargate bases go together to know if I could take one apart to put in the works. just illuistrating a self-contained concept.[/quote] Ahh ok, just wondering cause it looked similar to a Stargate base. Just remember though, with a design like that, you might have a problem with water from the first level getting into the second level. I have friends who have tried making homemade bongs with that same type of idea, and they ran into water spreading problems. Shouldn't be too hard though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahDuck Posted October 26, 2005 Author Share Posted October 26, 2005 This is what I was thinking. [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v495/Chevy72blu/cooler.jpg[/img] Identical to my "cool-can" that I use for cooling the fuel on my drag car. You could even route the tubing back up to the surface of the water, if you didnt want it to be filtered twice. This would effectively multiply the ammount of time the smoke spends in cold envrionment by about 10. Copper is an also an excellent temperature conductor, and retains temperature for an exceptionally long time. 3/8" can be found at any local autoparts store. I'll try it out next weekend, and snap a few pics. I'll let ya know if its worth the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Looks good, but just so you know, a purge valve is really not worth it. If I were you, I'd stick to your design but just leave the purge valve off, its just one more thing that can complicate things and make something not work properly. I didn't have one on my extra chamber, and never found myself needing one, but if you can make it work then more power to ya, just letting you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAP Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Yashman - is it really worth the time and effort which goes into it? My hookah has a pretty small base and not much room to expand (Mya carry case model) which is why I thought I could get better smoke doing something like this. So do you think it's worth it or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakemonster Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 Damn! Where does the moonshine come out at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted October 26, 2005 Share Posted October 26, 2005 [quote name='ZAP']Yashman - is it really worth the time and effort which goes into it? My hookah has a pretty small base and not much room to expand (Mya carry case model) which is why I thought I could get better smoke doing something like this. So do you think it's worth it or not?[/quote] Well, assuming you had everything you needed to make it already at home, I'd say it would only take 20 minutes of work... The only part that took any time at all was using scissors to slowly make the holes big enough for the tubes to fit. I already had a bunch of vinyl tubing at home because I use it for my hoses anyways, and I just looked around for a bit and found the plastic container. Of course this thing is not a must have, but it was kinda cool to make something out of supplies I had laying around, and yes it did get the smoke quite a bit cooler than normal. I'd say that if you have most of the supplies already, what could it hurt to rig something similar to this up. If you have absoulutely nothing, it might be a bit harder then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LB] Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 thats a sick system. My father said he would help me build somehting like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LB] Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 ill do a triple system, and then take some pictures let you guys know how it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LB] Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 now i understand that the boxes are a little bit of a stretch, but i cant think of any way to make the smoke go through the ice twice. I was thinking a wall could be insterted into the boxes to make a pinche point or somethign im not sure. The last box i will fill with water for filtering purposes, the rest is just ice i guess. [img]http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/SillySnare/Untitled-1.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted October 27, 2005 Share Posted October 27, 2005 Why not just make all three boxes like the last, with water AND ice? It would make more sense and the smoke will be forced to get filtered again. And just remember, how much cooler do you expect the smoke to get? If you get too complex, you're gunna end up having a lot of excess smoke sitting in the compartments getting stale. Nice brainstorming though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 I love that first drawing! lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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