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Got My Hands On Some Exotic Silver Japanese Coals! (beta)


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So, today, a buddy of mine and I decided to go down to Gabe's warehouse in SoCal after we found out he only lived like 10 mins away!

First off, outside, you wouldn't even tell it was his warehouse at all, it just looks like some random ass building happy.gif

We went and I met Gabe. let me tell you guys, he is an all around nice guy and he's very chill and he cracks jokes a lot happy.gif You may think he's "mean" and "serious" but he isn't at all and he's really chill to talk to

I saw a number of cool looking hookahs, haha he even owns the "hookah table" ya know, the one with the bowl on the bottom and the vase attached to the bottom of the table? Lol it was just funny to look at cuz it was really odd to see in person.

We were smoking Maraschino Cherry (Tangiers), BTW is awesome and yummy...after Gabe showed us the BETA version of the Silver Japanese coals! He lent me some to try out and tell him how it is...Its in its last stages and they are still doing testing on it.

While picking these up, some silver was on my fingers, he'll probably get rid of that when the silvers are done with testin and are ready for the market

Here are some pictures! They look similar to the knock off japanese silver coals..but they are thicker and dense and this version comes in singles and not in bars so you don't have to waste your time trying to break them:









Hehe I'll update when I get to smoke this suckers! Won't be able to since I have to study for a midterm tomorrow!

BTW, since I knew I was going to Exotic Imports, I cancelled the coals from my order from H-C that I made yesterday and just decided to get them from Gabe himself happy.gif




Oh yeah to people who are doubting gabe and saying that he "lied" about there being 60 cases of coals that were water-damaged:

It is TRUE and you can't deny it tongue.gif He showed me pics on his comp and the coals that were damaged months ago were hell! It looks like some jerkoff went and stepped all over them and parts of the boxes were ripped and there was water ALL over them! Not only that, he showed pics of the container and there was rust all over the metal walls from the water :\ You can tell the whole container was just thrown around during that hurricane and it caused some serious damage to those cases :\

there ya go!

BTW his warehouse is crazy! hehe the place wreaked of yummy AF and there were just boxes and boxes of AF, Soex, coals, and Afzal...It was awesome happy.gif

Oh yeah and sorry for the poor quality of the pics! I took it with my MAC
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QUOTE (mushrat @ Mar 12 2008, 08:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
water ALL over the container huh? rust on the sides? And the only ones damaged were on the top? I rest MY case.


Well it was just some rust marks on one wall and it did look like it was near the top...Sorry I didn't reword it right mush happy.gif I can't think straight right now with the comp right here and the homework over there that I'm doing at the moment tongue.gif
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QUOTE (EternalSoil @ Mar 12 2008, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
oh for fucks sake drop the fucked up exotica cases shit please!!!!!!!



PLEASE!!!

i hated when all that shit came up.. please not again


Sorry didn't mean to bring it up again and I hated the drama :\ I just wanted to get the point straight that I saw the pics myself...
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QUOTE (supersubby @ Mar 12 2008, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not a big fan of silver jap style coals...but i heard he was comin out with a quicklight coal soon?? any word on that?


yeah, he is still doing it. he said that it wasn't coming out till may or something? not too sure
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I like the idea of the coals, i just hate the silver crap around it... can anyone explain to me why exactly they have the layer of silver stuff? why not just straight up coals, exotica style?
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QUOTE (jfaltous @ Mar 13 2008, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I like the idea of the coals, i just hate the silver crap around it... can anyone explain to me why exactly they have the layer of silver stuff? why not just straight up coals, exotica style?


Stops water vapour in the air from slowly ruining your charcoal, charcoal is extremely dry and will absorb even the smallest quantity of water and this interferes with how it burns. I suppose maybe Exotica are swtiching to Jap coals to safeguard against a previous sour episode?

Also the layer stops your hands from getting dirty.
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QUOTE (manic007 @ Mar 13 2008, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (jfaltous @ Mar 13 2008, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I like the idea of the coals, i just hate the silver crap around it... can anyone explain to me why exactly they have the layer of silver stuff? why not just straight up coals, exotica style?


Stops water vapour in the air from slowly ruining your charcoal, charcoal is extremely dry and will absorb even the smallest quantity of water and this interferes with how it burns. I suppose maybe Exotica are swtiching to Jap coals to safeguard against a previous sour episode?

Also the layer stops your hands from getting dirty.


hmm..now I know. I'd wondered that myself.
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Interesting... but I disagree that the layer stops your hands from getting dirty. Its just silver dirt instead of black dirt tongue.gif

It still seems odd to me though that only the coals made in that size and shape come with silver coatings, while any coals in any other size/shape do not... and at the same time you can't find any coals that size and shape without the silver. You'd think there would be some sort of crossover with all the brands out there.
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UPDATE!

I just finished smoking these happy.gif with SB Margarita

These lasted exactly ONE HOUR (pretty dang good compared to the knockoff japanese silvers)

They did not break in half once! One just chipped off a little while ashing and that is about it

they are VERY dense! Its like they are the Exoticas (but a lil more dense imo), but in silver coal form. They give off a lot of heat for such lil coals

Silver dust did get on my fingers when holding them before lighting, but I'm sure that will be fixed once the REAL and FINISHED versions come out

Best of all, NO smell or TASTE! Even while or after lighting, there was no smell.

Pics will come on later on tonight!

EDIT: Edited to make some bold-tastic words happy.gif Edited by JillyIsJustKidding
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Oo yeah! 4 got to add...

They ash off pretty clean, similar to the naturals.

The silver layer comes off EASILY and CLEAN! When they are red hot, you just gotta either blow on them or scrape off gently..unlike the knock offs which are a real pain in the ass and you've got scrape the hell off of those suckers


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QUOTE (JillyIsJustKidding @ Mar 16 2008, 04:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oo yeah! 4 got to add...

They ash off pretty clean, similar to the naturals.

The silver layer comes off EASILY and CLEAN! When they are red hot, you just gotta either blow on them or scrape off gently..unlike the knock offs which are a real pain in the ass and you've got scrape the hell off of those suckers


First, what do you mean by "knock off's"? I have some "Japanese charcoal", I forget the name and I'm too lazy to look for them, but it says on the box "made in china". Are they knock offs cause they're not made in Japan? Cause by that logic I think Exotica Japanese style charcoal should be classified as knock offs! wink.gif

I personally never liked linking products to a geographical region, it confuses me, and I'm easily confused. I've drunk Port made in the New World thats ever bit as good as that made in Portugal, how could that be? And I've even eaten Yorkshire pudding in London! smile.gif It seems to me that giving a product a geographical name is very short sighted. It almost indicates that you dont think that anyone else will want to make it, or that its somehow unique to that region. I think that's a very classical thought; if globalisation has taught us anything then its that good and services can be replicated in numerous part of the world (often in poor countries). But I guess "silver Japanese style charcoal" is here to stay, unless people start calling it coated charcoal or something.

/rant

PS: The silver layer on my silver japanese style charcoal comes off fairly easily when hot. And the silver layer seems to be painted on, so you dont get any on your fingers.
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QUOTE (manic007 @ Mar 16 2008, 06:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (JillyIsJustKidding @ Mar 16 2008, 04:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oo yeah! 4 got to add...

They ash off pretty clean, similar to the naturals.

The silver layer comes off EASILY and CLEAN! When they are red hot, you just gotta either blow on them or scrape off gently..unlike the knock offs which are a real pain in the ass and you've got scrape the hell off of those suckers


First, what do you mean by "knock off's"? I have some "Japanese charcoal", I forget the name and I'm too lazy to look for them, but it says on the box "made in china". Are they knock offs cause they're not made in Japan? Cause by that logic I think Exotica Japanese style charcoal should be classified as knock offs! wink.gif

I personally never liked linking products to a geographical region, it confuses me, and I'm easily confused. I've drunk Port made in the New World thats ever bit as good as that made in Portugal, how could that be? And I've even eaten Yorkshire pudding in London! smile.gif It seems to me that giving a product a geographical name is very short sighted. It almost indicates that you dont think that anyone else will want to make it, or that its somehow unique to that region. I think that's a very classical thought; if globalisation has taught us anything then its that good and services can be replicated in numerous part of the world (often in poor countries). But I guess "silver Japanese style charcoal" is here to stay, unless people start calling it coated charcoal or something.

/rant

PS: The silver layer on my silver japanese style charcoal comes off fairly easily when hot. And the silver layer seems to be painted on, so you dont get any on your fingers.


Lol nah I mean the "knock offs" are that they aren't the ones that are made in Japan and they are "knock offs" of the Golden ones.

Haha yes, exoticas should in a way be classified as "knock offs" but not really imo tongue.gif They are really good biggrin.gif

Uploading pics at the moment...Photobucket is being a bitch! sad.gif
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Yay picture time! Gah after like 15 minutes cuz photobucket was being retarded:

Lighting them up with one exotica cuz I know those two coals wouldn't be enough to light up a small phunnel...


On the tray:


The bowl:


Small review of mine:

Exotica Silver Square Coals (BETA)
Cost: Free for right now since Gabe gave them to me to try out

Appearence: SOLID square silver coals. VERY dense

Ease of Lighting/Method: You'll need a stove, hot plate, or blow torch to light these up...No way in heck are you gonna light these up with a lighter.

What I really like is that the silver layer just comes off with ease. You just have to blow on it or GENTLY scrape with the tongs when they are red hot and you are all set.

Smell: None! Even b4, while, and after lighting, there was no smell

Ash: Light and very fine powder. Does NOT break in half like the other japanese square coals. It only chipped off a little bit on one of the corners and that was about it

Heat/Duration: Good heat for 2 small squares. Lasted for exactly one hour of heavy smoking.

Taste: Now...I've gotta change this up. After reloading the bowl with new 3 pieces of exoticas after the silver died...I noticed that the previous bowl with the silvers did have this weird after taste. I thought it was the SB Margarita but it really was the coals

Recommend: Since these are betas...They aren't perfected yet tongue.gif If Gabe gets rid of the aftertaste (which he probably will) YES I would recommend! Coming from someone who didn't like silvers b4 this, it means A LOT! happy.gif

9/10 If the after taste goes away with the official coals, then a 10/10! and no I am not saying that to be nice happy.gif
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I remember Eric saying sometime that the silver covering on the REAL Golden Canary coals is some aluminum something that speeds up the ignition of the coal which I can say they do light up quicker than the knockoffs. The knockoffs are just silver paint on them and from the looks of it, the Exotica covering is paint as well. As long as there's no added taste, can't complain! They look great. One of these days Jilly, you, me, voski, and your friend that knows them can head out to Winnetka and check out the warehouse.
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oo i c!

Eck I really don't like Goldens imo. (sorry to people who like 'em! tongue.gif )

They took forever to light up. and they would go back to black even though they were red hot and I would let them sit for 5 mins...still black

They ashed black too! ??? huh.gif it was really weird
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