bigmahlman Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 so i have been smoking a hookah for a few months now, own 2 of them. tried a bunch of flavors. ive got a few questions 1. were is the best place to buy tabaco on the internet. best tasting, and price. 2. how can i clean my hooka my old one has a realy bad taste to it. 3. i found this stuf fon the web [url="http://www.marijuanaalternatives.com/smokingblends.htm"]http://www.marijuanaalternatives.com/smokingblends.htm[/url] would it be good for smoking outa the hookah, even though its taboo. im talking the stuff that comes in the 7 sampler pack. 5.if i did buy that stuff what woudl be the best way to smoke it, would i use a coal liek regular or woudl i have to hand light it. 6. is a double bowl atachment for my hookah usful. 7. any smoking tips would be cool thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakemonster Posted October 28, 2005 Share Posted October 28, 2005 #3. Smoking stuff that is not moistened with glycerin, honey or some form of molasses usually comes out to be really harsh. I've tried pipe tobacco which ends up being really harsh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Did you know that you missed the number 4 on your list? anywho... 7. Tip 1: When starting a bowl, place the coal on the outside and work your way around the edged of the bowl, you should end in the middle...this ensures a nice, even roast. Think of it as working it at the four points of a compass. Tip 2: As I am sure you've heard alot around the forum, put ice in the base for extra cool smoke. Tip 3: Keep your tobacco in airtight containers. I, personally, have my tobacco in the original plastic it came in placed in a ziplock bag and then sealed in an airtight container. Tip 4. Clean your hookah after every use. Now, understandably, you don't have to clean it after EVERY bowl if you are smoking several in one night, but when you are done for the night, just a quick 5 minute freshen-up does well. Thats all I can think of off hand. Hope these help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmahlman Posted October 29, 2005 Author Share Posted October 29, 2005 oops, i changed the order of stuff and must have deleted number 4. 4. best way to; put holes in foil, or should i just use a screen. and i have done ice and its amazing, i clean it after most uses. if i dont it gets nasty and that makes hookah sad. still want to know more about that herbal stuff. i know it will be harsh, but its not like smoking a bowl isnt. woudl it be worse that that, more importantly does the stuff work. and would i se the same method to smoke it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobrabyte Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Hmm, should tackle this one-by-one...#1)I can tell you that it is becoming increasingly difficult to purchase any tobacco products online. The US government has been leaning on the credit card companies to change their policies towards online tobacco purchases. In short, as of August, Mastercard and Visa have changed their policies and will not permit online tobacco sales via their cards. This is a policy change and there is no way around it. That being said, some companies have pulled their tobacco products from their site (HookaHHookah) and some have tried to ride it out. I fear that those who attempt to ride it out will lose their credit card processing and will have the hardest time finding another card processor to take them on. If you stick to a particular brand, you should be OK with the 'best-price' strategy. However, know that some of these places make substantially-large purchases and tend to hold their product longer. Shisha will only keep for about 2 years and, after 6 to 8 months, you can definitely tell a difference in taste and quality-of-smoke. So, be sure that what you're getting has a production date within a year or two (at max).#2)To clean your hookah, you can take a couple routes...If you have an acrylic hookah (Mya Saray-quality), you can drop it in the dishwasher. We've been doing it on ours for quite sometime and it really does give that first-time smoke experience every single time. Also, there's no problem with the hookah when it comes out of the dishwasher.For glass hookahs, we typically clean them with a water, baking soda & citric acid mixture. A couple teaspoons of citric acid (looks like rock salt) and one teaspoon of baking soda mixed into a hookah base full of water will clean it. Also, you can plug one end of your hookah shaft, pour the mixture in and leave it to sit over night. This can be done a couple times a month or so and will give a deep-clean that will supplement the typical brush method. Please note that you will need to thoroughly flush the base and shaft with water prior to smoking.We've also gone so far as to smoke with the baking soda mixed into the water in the base. This will help keep the outside of the down pipe from becoming discolored.#3)You can smoke this in your hookah ... if you do what Lakemonster told you. You should purchase either honey or Glycerin (non-synthetic, all-natural; check eBay) to mix with the herbs/tobacco. It doesn't take long and only takes an overnight settling to work. Mix 1 part glycerin to 4 parts water (by volume) and let the herb/tobacco sit in the mixture over night. Glycerin is a humectant and will actually infuse itself into the leaves/herbs ... it's actually what provides most of the smoke in modern shisha. In any case, after letting sit over night, take it out and dry it off. You can add a little Caro's Corn Syrup (very little) to give it the right consistency and to really bring out the flavor. This will also provide a more-even heating across the herb/tobacco without burning it.#4)We use the old-stand by ... a push pin. Some friends of ours actually glued a couple dozen push pins into a configuration that lets them push down on the head a couple times ... giving them about 50 holes or so on their head. Some online shops are also carrying something similar (only in plastic).#5)The key to the hookah is that you are not burning the medium. You are heating it. The moment you start burning it, you have moved beyond the realm of the hookah into bong territory. Place it in the bowl as you would normal shisha (if it is processed as above).#6)No clue ... never attempted to use one of these. #7)- Try using ice in the base.- Try some V8 Splash in the base (get the same flavor as your shisha) ... it's amazing how much flavor will come out of there.- When smoking, angle the tip of the hose right at the tip of your tongue on the inhale ... serious flavor.- Try a bowl with 1/2 Mint, 1/4 Grape, 1/4 Cherry ... my personal favorite.-Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmahlman Posted October 30, 2005 Author Share Posted October 30, 2005 thank you ive never tried mint, souns good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmahlman Posted October 30, 2005 Author Share Posted October 30, 2005 ohh, is golden al farfa good, that what i mostly get and i realy enjoy the orange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobrabyte Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 Personally, I only smoke Havana now.I can't seem to make it back to a honey or molasses-based shisha.We are getting together a case or so of Havana so that we can offer some various flavors to forum members for little or nothing (probably just pay for shipping).-Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmahlman Posted October 30, 2005 Author Share Posted October 30, 2005 that woudl be sweet im always willing to try somthign new, the al-farfa is jsut what is avialable at the toledo market were i buy it. my bro got some el nakhla but i didnt like it. so are alot of little holes better then a few big ones, in the foil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahwahoo2006 Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 [quote name='bigmahlman']3. i found this stuf fon the web [url="http://www.marijuanaalternatives.com/smokingblends.htm"]http://www.marijuanaalternatives.com/smokingblends.htm[/url] would it be good for smoking outa the hookah, even though its taboo. im talking the stuff that comes in the 7 sampler pack.[/quote] Just so you know, the "herbs" you are talking about are actually a quite powerful hallucinogen called salvia. [quote name='from Wikipedia']Salvia divinorum (also known as diviner's sage, ska María Pastora or simply salvia) is a psychoactive plant, a member of the [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sage"]sage genus and the Lamiaceae (mint) family. The plant is grown by the Mazatec indigenous people of the Oaxaca mountains of southern Mexico in isolated, moist and secret plots. It has been used by their shamans for centuries for healing during spirit journeys. It is thought to be a cultigen. No definitively wild populations have been found. The Latin name Salvia divinorum literally translates as "sage of the divine ones" or "sage of the divinely inspired ones". The primary psychoactive constituent is a neoclerodane diterpene known as salvinorin A. Salvia also contains the closely related compounds salvinorins B-G, divinatorins A-E, salvinicins A and B, and hardwickiic acid. Salvinorin A is the most potent naturally-occurring hallucinogen known... At high doses, the effects become more powerful and shamanic, and may additionally include out-of-body experiences, perceptions of gravitational distortion, vertigo, sensations of wind or physical pressure, hearing voices, flanging of sound, significant open and closed-eye visuals, experiencing alternate realities, contact with beings or entities, dissolution of one's ego, and dissociation. The salvia experience is quite different from that of most other hallucinogenic drugs and may be overwhelming, even with the correct set and setting[/url].[/quote] This drug is technically legal, but is being considered for scheduling by the DEA. It would also be impossible to smoke out of a hookah, as it needs a very hot flame to burn (such as a torch lighter). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmahlman Posted November 1, 2005 Author Share Posted November 1, 2005 yea i know that one is, im not a sober person persay. i like my herbs. i was just wondering about the ones on that site. so thanks. are you alowd to discuss drugs on this fourm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahwahoo2006 Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Any drugs of the illegal variety are not to be mentioned on this forum. We do not encourage or promote the use of illegal drugs. Salvia falls into a sort of gray area: its not technically illegal, but its not what hookah was intended for. I think the mods will agree with me when I say let's just keep the discussion focused on hookahs and tobacco products ONLY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmahlman Posted November 1, 2005 Author Share Posted November 1, 2005 good deal, thats what i figured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmahlman Posted November 9, 2005 Author Share Posted November 9, 2005 BUMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted November 9, 2005 Share Posted November 9, 2005 bump? we missed something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmahlman Posted November 13, 2005 Author Share Posted November 13, 2005 no not realy, just lookin for more tips and advice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 ah...ok..what else do you need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahCulture Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Hello all, Just popping in to say HI! I'm working on a huge update, been going through some personal problems so that's why I haven't been around. Things are looking much better though, the Universe is granting me opportunities and other situations are improving. Some new hookah cafes opened up in the PHX area as well and I need to review them. I think I'll re-review one place, as someone told me that one review was full of lies. It was NOT, but it was reviewed in 2003. OK so I hope everyone is doing well, and I thought I would address a few things. Maybe I'll address a few posts....... ============================ You get headaches from inhaling constantly and not BREATHING enough between pulls! I know it sounds simple and obvious, but it's easy to forget to just breathe clean air for a bit. You're getting an oxygen deprivation headache. I got one once late at night after smoking at a lounge, then went home to discover I had no aspirin! I couldn't sleep with it, and I had to wait till FIVE A.M. in agony till the stores opened! I learned my lesson there. Vomitting? Never happened with me. Hole pattern for your foil! [img]http://www.hookahculture.com/foilpattern.jpg[/img] This pattern works best with the Egyptian brown bowls, done with a toothpick and then cover the bowl with coals, typically 2 finger chunks or 2 quick-lites. I tried it with the colored wider bowls and it failed miserably. Ideally you should have thick and flavorful smoke without the burn. Other wider bowls work well with more holes, often a series of pushpin holes in radial patterns and small chunks of finger coal. It's really a science of balancing heat and holes for best results! Also be sure you're leaving a few milimeters of space between the top of the foil and your moasell to prevent burning. Some cafes are amateurs when it comes to this. They pack it full and make the holes too big. WRONG! Cleaning your hookah For the stem I use a stem brush and a natural citric acid spray like an orange something. Mom turned me on to the stuff. Moms are good like that. I used to use 409 which was quite effective, but be sure you rinse thoroughly. For the base, use some antibacterial dish liquid. Squeeze a short squirt, fill half way with hot water, and shake for a few minutes. Pour it out, rinse. Double bowl--- Be sure you have a good seal for the stem and it sits tightly. I've heard different things, but it can be good. Of course you have to double-babysit your bowls to maximize flavor. Done right, you get a real dense and thick smoke with intense flavor, I've had this at a friend's party with banana and strawberry and it was really well-done! Tobacco: Read the reviews section. We put a lot of energy into this. Whisper: Nothing but moasell should be smoked out of your hookah. Anything else, use a handpipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahCulture Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 Oh yeah, there are a few different Egyptian brown bowls, mine is MEDIUM. There are smaller and wider! Consider the wide one to be as wide as the colored ones, do some careful shopping. It's IDEAL to inspect them personally at a store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkeema Posted November 13, 2005 Share Posted November 13, 2005 i NEED to get a PARTY BOWL!!! right now im stuck with medium , which is not to bad atleast it aint TINYYY ... i do my holes all around the edge and leave the middle sometimes so that coal gets burnt from the ouside...and the shisha lasts for alot longer!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmahlman Posted November 14, 2005 Author Share Posted November 14, 2005 yea i gave my old mya that was beat to sh it to my friends and and i got it going at a party it was huge, everyone was smoking jit this is how beat to s hi the hookah is, the base broke so im using a gatorade bottle, bowl broke taped it back together, i love duck tape, the release valve is broken so no blowing in, taste like sh*t, becase they never cleaned it. . but damn drunk people loved it. ive found that if i punch holes in a slow spiral pattern its f**king sweet! you should try it. drugs are bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmahlman Posted November 14, 2005 Author Share Posted November 14, 2005 if a buy a hookah were should i get it from, and what one, and other stuff like that. i just wana kick ass hookah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted November 14, 2005 Share Posted November 14, 2005 Ok Big: 1)how tall? 2)how many hoses? 3)if multi hose, auto-seal? 4)traditional or modern? 5)price range? I suggest checking out the "definitive online site" topic. Let us know what you want, and we can try to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmahlman Posted November 15, 2005 Author Share Posted November 15, 2005 i was thinking a 2 hose hookah, for under 100 dollars im poor. i want it to be modern and a little taller then normal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donkeema Posted November 15, 2005 Share Posted November 15, 2005 ill be getting the abyss 1 hose - or 3 hose SOON !!! HOPEFULLY ...so ill let you know how i get on ... expecting Great results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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