Canon Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Ok, so they took my coil burner and i was going to buy another for 6 bucks.. but i figure a torch would be cheaper and safer to use for future exotica lightings.. i have all the time in the world because im going to buy this in a few months due to me moving and not being able to smoke for about 1-2 months when i move (cept on weekends with my fiance)what torch works best with lighting exoticas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olooko Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 BernzOmatic form homedepot, or any major hardware store. After you use the first can of fuel. Just wait untill the bbq propane cans go on sale at the end of summer and stock up. One can can last up to three or 4 boxs of Exotica coals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaia.plateau Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 I use one of thesehttp://cgi.ebay.ca/HOT-3000-deg-Refillable...1QQcmdZViewItemI highly recommend it. Super cheap, lights a natural coal, exotica, coconara, whatever, in like 4-5 minutes, not bad on butane use, handheld, very durable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Bernz rocks for other stuff, not a natural coal user, yet. But make sure you get the one click igniter. instead of separate starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voski Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Get the burnzomatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinthecity Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 QUOTE (Canon @ Apr 2 2008, 11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>but i figure a torch would be cheaper and safer to use for future exotica lightings..i have a feeling that a torch would be more expensive, and more dangerous.i'd recommend buying another coil stove.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share Posted April 3, 2008 QUOTE (austinthecity @ Apr 3 2008, 12:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Canon @ Apr 2 2008, 11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>but i figure a torch would be cheaper and safer to use for future exotica lightings..i have a feeling that a torch would be more expensive, and more dangerous.i'd recommend buying another coil stove..tried it, it fell and burned my carpet.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdl Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Do you have a garage? veranda? outdoor access?I can't stand torches since you have to sit there and watch the damn things light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paiintballa182 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 He is in a dorm of sorts,so no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdl Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 QUOTE (bryankphotography @ Apr 2 2008, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>He is in a dorm of sorts,so noAh, didn't know that. How about buying 4 cheap sq ft tiles and putting the burner on the floor so there's no chance of it falling on any carpet?But yeah, to keep it on topic, the Burnzomatic things from hardware stores are cheap and last a good while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplexCoda Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 I would say stick with the coil burner, but why cant you smoke for so long? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 The Bernz rules for lighting the coals. Just make sure they are lit and orange all over before you put em on the bowl. You'll notice a difference in flavor though, definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paiintballa182 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 QUOTE (mdl @ Apr 3 2008, 01:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (bryankphotography @ Apr 2 2008, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>He is in a dorm of sorts,so noAh, didn't know that. How about buying 4 cheap sq ft tiles and putting the burner on the floor so there's no chance of it falling on any carpet?But yeah, to keep it on topic, the Burnzomatic things from hardware stores are cheap and last a good while.If im not mistaken, coil burners are against the rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voski Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 for the torch I recommend buying a ceramic dish. Like the ones you put under plant p-ts that collect water. You can just toss the coal in there and torch it without worrying about burning anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidglass Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 QUOTE (oolatec @ Apr 2 2008, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hmmm... I don't see the ashtray? that's the one I use, only about 3 bucks, never steered me wrong, but I think I might check out the torch everyone else is recommending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manic007 Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 I brought a blow torch for lighting charcoal. My girlfriend has a +very+ knowledgeable friend who works at the local DIY shop (B&Q). He recommeded buying the cheapest torch.He told me it makes fairly little difference which torch you buy, since all torches (that B&Q sell) use standardised butane-propane mix gas. Its the type of gas which determines how hot the flame will be, for a standard butane-propane mix gas this is 1350 degrees Celcius. However, there IS a big difference in the power rating. Some torches use more gas per second than others, as a result they have a higher power rating.The torch I have is this one, GoSystem GB2070 (shown with a 2175 gas canister)It has a maximum power rating of 1400 Watts, and uses gas at a maximum rate of 100 grams/hour (according to the side of the box, which I've tooken the effort to bring upstairs to the computer to look at, just for you ).I also brought a large gas canister to go with the torch, you get a free one (as seen in the pic) but it doesn't last long. The gas canister I brought has 350 grams of gas. It only cost me a couple of quid, but should last me for quite a while.I've been told that gas canisters in the UK and the rest of Europe are very standarised (thank god!!), and probably so in the US. In Europe, so long as the gas canister is EN 417 compatible it doesn't matter which brand or canister sizes you buy, it will still fit your blow torch, or any other EN 417 equiptment (such as camping stoves). And most canisters sold are EN 417 compatible, or are the piecering type.It generally takes me less than 10 minutes to light a pile of natural unprocessed charcoal and maybe less than 5 minutes to light up Nour's. The trick to lighting charcoal efficiently is to put the torch on a high power setting and keep the flame on the same spot until it turns red hot, hot enough for it to become self-sustaning. Then and only then, move the flame to a different part of the charcoal. It is completely unprofitable to "wave" the flame over the charcoal, as this doesn't get any of the charcoal hot enough for self-sustaning combustion.Overall I'd say the blow torch I have is okay, its nothing special, doesn't have an inbuilt ignition but thats doesn't matter too much. Like I said, if I was you I'd just buy a cheap one. If in doubt I recommend going to a small independent hardware store and asking the guy who works there for advice. I've generally found that independent stores have far more knowledgeable assistants than the big chains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryno Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 http://images.orgill.com/200x200/2260362.jpgthats what I use for QL, but I'm sure it'd work for naturals too. Flexable and adjustable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*HOT&SMOKING* Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 QUOTE (liquidglass @ Apr 3 2008, 09:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> QUOTE (oolatec @ Apr 2 2008, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hmmm... I don't see the ashtray? that's the one I use, only about 3 bucks, never steered me wrong, but I think I might check out the torch everyone else is recommending.I have never had the chance to use naturals so cant say how good this lighter is on naturals but I have used one that is very much the same to this one and have used it on QL and it gets them going very quickly. So it is a nice torch, but not sure if it is hot enough for naturals.-H&S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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