questions Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Ok...the question of the day:is a HOOKAH considered a pipe by the Federal Goverment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 should be.. it is a water pipe.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questions Posted April 4, 2008 Author Share Posted April 4, 2008 QUOTE (Canon @ Apr 4 2008, 09:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>should be.. it is a water pipe..are you just guessing on this or do you know for a fact?question about this is:when the whole chong debacle hit in 03...hookahs were not in the same classification as a "pipe"?any one know for sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Might gibe your local office of the ATF a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questions Posted April 4, 2008 Author Share Posted April 4, 2008 QUOTE (mushrat @ Apr 4 2008, 09:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Might gibe your local office of the ATF a call.Already spoke with them...and they don't have the answer....?they don't think so, neither do I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shisha fan Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 QUOTE (questions @ Apr 4 2008, 05:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Canon @ Apr 4 2008, 09:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>should be.. it is a water pipe..are you just guessing on this or do you know for a fact?question about this is:when the whole chong debacle hit in 03...hookahs were not in the same classification as a "pipe"?any one know for sure?i don`t know about the legal classification of hookahs, but i don`t think they`re considered paraphernalia.keep in mind that the us government only wanted to make an example out of tommy chong because of his movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaia.plateau Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (shisha fan @ Apr 4 2008, 11:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i don`t know about the legal classification of hookahs, but i don`t think they`re considered paraphernalia.Of course they're paraphernalia A narguile is hookah paraphernalia.noun.1. equipment, apparatus, or furnishing used in or necessary for a particular activity: a skier's paraphernalia.http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/paraphernalia Edited April 4, 2008 by gaia.plateau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shisha fan Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 QUOTE (gaia.plateau @ Apr 4 2008, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (shisha fan @ Apr 4 2008, 11:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i don`t know about the legal classification of hookahs, but i don`t think they`re considered paraphernalia.Of course they're paraphernalia A narguile is hookah paraphernalia.noun.1. equipment, apparatus, or furnishing used in or necessary for a particular activity: a skier's paraphernalia.http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/paraphernaliai should have been more specific, i meant drug paraphernalia.and i`m still expanding my english vocabulary, it isn`t my native language you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 QUOTE (shisha fan @ Apr 4 2008, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (gaia.plateau @ Apr 4 2008, 06:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (shisha fan @ Apr 4 2008, 11:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>i don`t know about the legal classification of hookahs, but i don`t think they`re considered paraphernalia.Of course they're paraphernalia A narguile is hookah paraphernalia.noun.1. equipment, apparatus, or furnishing used in or necessary for a particular activity: a skier's paraphernalia.http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/paraphernaliai should have been more specific, i meant drug paraphernalia.and i`m still expanding my english vocabulary, it isn`t my native language you know.he knew what you meant, hes just being an asshole. as far as paraphernalia goes. i read somewhere that its against the law to sell drug paraphernalia to anyone. so technically its not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 If we wanna be anal about it... Hookah is still drug paraphernalia. Tobacco has nicotine which is a drug. "Illegal drug paraphernalia" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 QUOTE (Virgil @ Apr 4 2008, 01:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>If we wanna be anal about it... Hookah is still drug paraphernalia. Tobacco has nicotine which is a drug. "Illegal drug paraphernalia"common man, dont pull that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questions Posted April 4, 2008 Author Share Posted April 4, 2008 ok...reason being for the question is simple..if it is not considered a pipe by the gov't....but an actual hookah, which is what I am thinking, it changes the taxes on shisha... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erufiku Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 QUOTE (Virgil @ Apr 4 2008, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>If we wanna be anal about it... Hookah is still drug paraphernalia. Tobacco has nicotine which is a drug. "Illegal drug paraphernalia"That's like peeing where you sleep.I think we can all put 2 and 2 together by ourselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questions Posted April 4, 2008 Author Share Posted April 4, 2008 QUOTE (erufiku @ Apr 4 2008, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Virgil @ Apr 4 2008, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>If we wanna be anal about it... Hookah is still drug paraphernalia. Tobacco has nicotine which is a drug. "Illegal drug paraphernalia"That's like peeing where you sleep.I think we can all put 2 and 2 together by ourselves?What does that mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename067 Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Who cares again?I Don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoop Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 id imagine shisha is taxed like all other tobacco? (if by shisha you mean the mix)not sure what hookahs would have to do with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesha Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 Due to first hand knowledge of this when I was young and foolish and also the fact that most of my family is in law enforcement here's what I know. (Disclaimer: Mods if this post is breaking the rules I apoogize in advance. Please edit it or let me know and I will be happy to remove it.) The actual device whether it is a Hookah or any other device used for smoking is legal. What makes them illegal is their use for consumption of illegal substances. The residue from said substances are what makes the device illegal. Example, If you use a coke can to smoke NHT that coke can is then illegal to possess. And if caught with it you are subject to being cited for possession of drug paraphernalia. If you would like my personal story as to how I know this feel free to PM as I would rather tell it without worrying whether I break the rules of the forum or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
questions Posted April 4, 2008 Author Share Posted April 4, 2008 QUOTE (ganesha @ Apr 4 2008, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Due to first hand knowledge of this when I was young and foolish and also the fact that most of my family is in law enforcement here's what I know. (Disclaimer: Mods if this post is breaking the rules I apoogize in advance. Please edit it or let me know and I will be happy to remove it.) The actual device whether it is a Hookah or any other device used for smoking is legal. What makes them illegal is their use for consumption of illegal substances. The residue from said substances are what makes the device illegal. Example, If you use a coke can to smoke NHT that coke can is then illegal to possess. And if caught with it you are subject to being cited for possession of drug paraphernalia. If you would like my personal story as to how I know this feel free to PM as I would rather tell it without worrying whether I break the rules of the forum or not.ok,thank you all for you insight, and if not mistaken, this is forum for to people to ask questions, so if you don't care, don't respond, there is reason, i asked and that is simple, I wanted to know..so sorry if this is a rude response, but honestly, don't respond if you don't care..thanks and sorry, long day and this is quite important to me and i thought somebody might be able to answer this easily herethanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaia.plateau Posted April 4, 2008 Share Posted April 4, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Canon @ Apr 4 2008, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Virgil @ Apr 4 2008, 01:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>If we wanna be anal about it... Hookah is still drug paraphernalia. Tobacco has nicotine which is a drug. "Illegal drug paraphernalia"common man, dont pull that.That, and hookahs were not originally designed for substances containing nicotine, which makes them fundamentally paraphernalia of that variety. Edited April 4, 2008 by gaia.plateau Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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