UnSaniTiZ Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 Alright guys, here's the deal. I just got the fayrouz hookah from hookahook.com I have a number of questions about how to set it up. First of all, the rubber seal it came with for the stem/base is too small, and the ones that I have are too big... It is too small if the stem is wobbling around right? Secondly, the hoses it came with feel pretty badly made. There is seemingly no way to use a grommet for the hoses, but I guess I could be wrong about that. It has an autoseal, maybe that will help. I bought a porcelian hose tip (For my mad style), but it doesn't fit in the end of the hoses!! Not quite sure what to do about that since the ends don't come off... other than those issues it seems like a pretty solid hookah. If I bought some hoses from myasarah would they fit into the fayrouz? the hose holes on the fayrouz are pretty small, much smaller than on my other rotating hookah. The rotator came with cobrah hoses, and they don't fit into the fayrouz (even without the grommets). I'm not sure quite what to do, but I'm pretty sure that my next hookah will be a myasarah. Any advice on any of these problems is appreciated. TIA -UnSaniTiZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 This one? [url="http://www.hookahook.com/v1/prodView.asp?idproduct=1471"]http://www.hookahook.com/v1/prodView.asp?i...?idproduct=1471[/url] First you contact them. Tell them everything you told us. Are the hoses exactly like those pictured on the site? Thos epictured look like nice mya's. secondly..that has an autoseal?? WHERE?? Im looking at the picture and I DON'T see any space for a grommet for the hoses. ODD. tool dip here you come. I am beginning to feel VERY badly about recommending them to you... Contact them and see what they can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted November 10, 2005 Share Posted November 10, 2005 I like how in the picture, it doesn't even look like they used ANY grommets anywhere on the hookah ie: the hose grommets or even the base grommet... Even on their own picture the hookah doesn't stand up straight... And yes, those hose ports don't look very large. Even if you did get some grommets for them, doesn't look like it would fit inside the small holes, and especially not with a hose.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnSaniTiZ Posted November 11, 2005 Author Share Posted November 11, 2005 they told me it has an autoseal, and I think it does. There are little balls in the sockets that rattle when I tilt it... I will email them about it all though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 The autoseal is easy to test, plug in a hose, put your hand over the top of the stem instead of the bowl, and suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR Bubble Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 This is a Syrian machine. My Syrian machine (which I used only 3 or 4 times) is the same way, in that there is no room for any hose grommet. That's when you "Smoke Like Egyptian." I take a piece of cigarette box cardboard (or maybe the box cardboard from a 50 gram sampler box) and roll it around the hose end, lick it real good, and twist it into the stem part of the machine. It will give you a very acceptable seal. If the hose pictured are the same ones they gave you, they are wonderful hoses! Mine are almost 2 years old and still sucking away. I'm sorry to say, but a hookah like that (for me) is best left being a disply object. I found that the best machines are those that can be mistaken for a bulldozer part. Not much to look at, but can be wrestled with and can still suck a bowling ball through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnSaniTiZ Posted November 11, 2005 Author Share Posted November 11, 2005 aye, there is no autoseal I don't think... I've been lied to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnSaniTiZ Posted November 11, 2005 Author Share Posted November 11, 2005 just realized how crappy of a post that was. That is to say, I tried plugging a hose in and covering the top. I can still get plenty of air-- although I'm not getting that great of a seal between the stem and the vase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnSaniTiZ Posted November 11, 2005 Author Share Posted November 11, 2005 I guess I can't smoke it until I hear back from them. Not like I could return it anyway. The shipping was quite a lot. Wow this is a bummer... As for the hoses, they are pretty cheap. They have that metal tube on both ends of each hose (the actual hose part, before the tip). One of them came off; they are all poorly glued. One of the hoses is crushed in one spot too... Since it's a syrian hookah it seems that I couldn't get replacement hoses... I should've gone with a mya or a stargate. Maybe I'll get one of those sooner rather than later. Glass myas are good, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR Bubble Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 I guess Myas are good. I hear a lot about them here. I just prefer to keep it simple and durrable and go with solid Egyptians. Check out the thread "Best Hookah" next to this one. M Bubble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 here's what i woudl do. I'd get in touch with them. Detail all the problems with it. Tell them you want everything fixed or replaced. If they refuse, tell them you want them to send a call tag for return shipping. A call tag is where THEY pay for the return postage. Often it is either a sticker/lable you stick on the package or they arrange with the carrier to pick it up and they have the lable. Either way, don't end up wasting the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnSaniTiZ Posted November 11, 2005 Author Share Posted November 11, 2005 I might be a bitch and ask for everything to be fixed or replaced. I want to smoke out of it though, which I shouldn't do if I'm waiting about that. Something I neglected to mention earlier is that the metal end of the stem that goes into the water is bent (at an angle with the rest of the stem) where it's attached (soldered I think). I'm not sure if I should try and fix that (with force, or solder I guess). As for testing the autoseal. I CAN still suck air with the top of the stem covered. I guess that means no autoseal, which is unbelievably irritating since they directly told me it had an autoseal. Unfortunately, I asked them a while ago and I no longer have that email... I will keep this thread open, I guess, and post my current situations in here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yashman19 Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Holy christ...yeah I would send that thing back. I know you're anxious to smoke, but be patient. They might gripe about it if you try smoking out of it and then send it back. Best just to leave it exactly how it came. Good luck with this whole ordeal, and hopefully they will take care of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnSaniTiZ Posted November 11, 2005 Author Share Posted November 11, 2005 problem is that it cost like 70 to ship, and I doubt they'd want to refund my money, and pay for shipping back. If they won't refund the shipping, then I'd be paying more for the shipping than the hookah and it wouldnt' be worth sending back... We'll see I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted November 11, 2005 Share Posted November 11, 2005 Screw what they WANT to do....if they didn't send you what they pictured or if its defective, and they won't make good, it's FRAUD. Your CC company can then get involved.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnSaniTiZ Posted November 11, 2005 Author Share Posted November 11, 2005 well, I ordered a different hookah from socialsmoke. 4-hose large autoseal egyptian, blue and chrome. I've also emailed hookahook and asked them for a call tag and refund, since their hookah was falsely advertised and defective. Hopefully I'll get a refund and not a replacement. Worst come to Worst I'll have an extra hookah that I'll either keep or try to sell. Anybody want to buy a fayrouz hookah? Brand new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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