shesha1 Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 I have been reading these topics for some time now. I had to join to give you my 2 cents. I have been smoking Hookah for 12 years now. It was introduced to me as Shesha or Shisha. To be honest with you I think IMO that the round charcoals are the worst thing you can use. This will be the greatest advise I can give you in life. FIND GOLDEN CANARY CHARCOAL. It is not the fake japanese stuff. Its the silver square charcoal. Tobacco is a matter of preferance, but I have been using square charcoal for 12 years. It drastically improves the taste of any tobacco. I am not talking abou the imitation stuff from china, You know you have a bad batch or its fake because the squares will turn into brown dust or silver dust. The real deal just burnes into black dust.Like I said I can understand tobacco, it really is a taste but there is no way any of you shound be using round quick lite charcoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*HOT&SMOKING* Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Well some of us can only get ahold of Ql's .....so ya.....but thanks anyway I suppose?-H&S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchell8621 Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 well...um...ok... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garykainz Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 why do i get the feeling like this guys gonna get the boot? but anyway, to contribute, NOUR FTW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Canaries are p0robably the best Jap coals. But they are expensive as hell And I hind the Belgian Natural disks to be better AND cheaper.Also soem folks, especially those living in dorms or such, don't have access to stoves and have to use QL's. But thanks for putting in your $.02. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechAnt Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 I love the Golden Canary Japs. My only gripe about them is that they dont last very long and are a bit messy. Other than that, I love them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shesha1 Posted April 7, 2008 Author Share Posted April 7, 2008 Ok ignore what I said then. keep smoking the round charcoal. I try to help but I get snied remarks like "umm I guess" do what ever you like. Just know there is mnore poison in those round charcoals than you know........GOLDEN CANARY!!!!! THE SQUARE ONES. FOR THOSE WHO CARE. You can find it online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*HOT&SMOKING* Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 QUOTE (mushrat @ Apr 7 2008, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Canaries are p0robably the best Jap coals. But they are expensive as hell And I hind the Belgian Natural disks to be better AND cheaper.Also soem folks, especially those living in dorms or such, don't have access to stoves and have to use QL's. But thanks for putting in your $.02.Never mind people who can't burn there naturals, I can't get naturals, never mind getting them burning....sigh...sometimes it does suck living here...-H&S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 QUOTE (shesha1 @ Apr 7 2008, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Ok ignore what I said then. keep smoking the round charcoal. I try to help but I get snied remarks like "umm I guess" do what ever you like. Just know there is mnore poison in those round charcoals than you know........GOLDEN CANARY!!!!! THE SQUARE ONES. FOR THOSE WHO CARE. You can find it online.well...since we don't know you from Adam, so to speak, and you come in making grand pronouncements as your 1st post with no real steet cred here if you will, we do have to take everything with a little grain of salt. No need to get offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shesha1 Posted April 7, 2008 Author Share Posted April 7, 2008 Street cred? My man I was smoking before there was a hookah bar on every corner. My friend use d to fly to Saudi just to pick up tobacco and the above mentioned charcoal. The charcoal we used at the time was called Familly Train. Very similar to Golden Canary. My point is my cred should lie within the fact that I posted to help you not to make outlandish statements. I am not some one who just started today. I have smoked tobacco from all around the world, and have used every charcoal out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 QUOTE (shesha1 @ Apr 7 2008, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Street cred? My man I was smoking before there was a hookah bar on every corner. My friend use d to fly to Saudi just to pick up tobacco and the above mentioned charcoal. The charcoal we used at the time was called Familly Train. Very similar to Golden Canary. My point is my cred should lie within the fact that I posted to help you not to make outlandish statements. I am not some one who just started today. I have smoked tobacco from all around the world, and have used every charcoal out there.And to us you are a guy who just showed up today. What we see is what we judge by...Like I said, nothign personal, but to us you are new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesh2 Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 QUOTE (shesha1 @ Apr 7 2008, 10:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Street cred? My man I was smoking before there was a hookah bar on every corner. My friend use d to fly to Saudi just to pick up tobacco and the above mentioned charcoal. The charcoal we used at the time was called Familly Train. Very similar to Golden Canary. My point is my cred should lie within the fact that I posted to help you not to make outlandish statements. I am not some one who just started today. I have smoked tobacco from all around the world, and have used every charcoal out there.i wouldnt get offended, the post just came off a bit awkward. by the title alone, i thought i was entering a thread on the dangers of smoking and all that jazz. welcome to the forum, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elky Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (shesha1 @ Apr 7 2008, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Street cred? My man I was smoking before there was a hookah bar on every corner. My friend use d to fly to Saudi just to pick up tobacco and the above mentioned charcoal. The charcoal we used at the time was called Familly Train. Very similar to Golden Canary. My point is my cred should lie within the fact that I posted to help you not to make outlandish statements. I am not some one who just started today. I have smoked tobacco from all around the world, and have used every charcoal out there.No one is doubting you on this topic, the problem is that too often we have people spamming the board and the only thing they say is "buy this because its the best thing ever, evrything you use is shit compaired to our new awesome thing of awesomeness" But whatever man, I prefer exoticas myself cause you can cut them to whatever length you want and whatnot. Welcome to the forum. Edited April 7, 2008 by Elky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupremeOstrich Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 QUOTE (shesha1 @ Apr 7 2008, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Street cred? My man I was smoking before there was a hookah bar on every corner. My friend use d to fly to Saudi just to pick up tobacco and the above mentioned charcoal. The charcoal we used at the time was called Familly Train. Very similar to Golden Canary. My point is my cred should lie within the fact that I posted to help you not to make outlandish statements. I am not some one who just started today. I have smoked tobacco from all around the world, and have used every charcoal out there.Lol, I was smoking before it was cool xD I think everyone just means that you're new to the forum, and no one has any reason to trust your opinion. But i'm sure everyone that reads this posts googles those coals like I just did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 I smell a company promotional spammer...like the past instance with coconara...something is fishy here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaenerator Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Dont be so sensitive shesha1 its only natural that some will listen some wont. I for ex cant get Canaries , in Poland we only have 1 type of jap charcoal and its horrible :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shesha1 Posted April 7, 2008 Author Share Posted April 7, 2008 No, I get that. I am not here to sell you guys something. I wish you could have smoked some of the stuff I did. 10 years ago the tobacco was very different. Now everything is like these wild flavors. But believe me when I tell you back in the day. Grape was truely amazing. My friend used to mix bananna and this very buttery tasting tobacco, and I swear there was nothing like it. The best tobacco I ever tated was from this place in Anaheim CA at a place called AL Waha. This was back in the day when theses guys from Jordan ran it. They had home made Cherry that was the best I have ever tasted. Im not talking about cherry like AL-fahker. That taste like medicine. Im talking cherry that was like a cloud of coolness that tasted like 7-11 cherry. Miss those times. that place changed now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaenerator Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Yeah some changed for good some for bad, fex. Fakhur/Fakher (not Al Fakher) was once great tabacco great flav great smoke, now its a lottery, every pack tastes different huh Jordan, ever smoked Janan tabacco? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shesha1 Posted April 7, 2008 Author Share Posted April 7, 2008 QUOTE (Reggaenerator @ Apr 7 2008, 10:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yeah some changed for good some for bad, fex. Fakhur/Fakher (not Al Fakher) was once great tabacco great flav great smoke, now its a lottery, every pack tastes different huh Jordan, ever smoked Janan tabacco?No I havent. Janan? is it good? You are 100% right Al-fahhur Grape was once my favorite ti was amazing white smoke, and the smoke itself was so cool...then over night it changed:( I now smoke Fusion passion fruit, and sour green apple. i just hate how it has so many stems i have to remove......Tell me about Janan.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 I agree in principle - but there are alternatives....I've used these for years and I think there ace.JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shesha1 Posted April 7, 2008 Author Share Posted April 7, 2008 I have used those too, and yes they are the same. It just depends on what you can find. I guess my point was if you can try to get these kind of coals, just be aware of the knock-off's. If the coal burns into brown ash its fake, if it burns into silver ash, its fake. If it burns into black ash its the real deal. The taste is quite noticable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggaenerator Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Friend brought me it from Jordan. Its very good i must say. Strong flav good smoke, it wast cheap but she bought it in a hotel store. Funny thing, couldnt find al waha or al jazeera in Amman http://www.saleh-molasses.com/ - nice website, nice tabacco, haven't seen it in any european store though.Fakhur Watermelon is great, one of the biggest clouds i have seen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 They always worked for me, But I have to order these from America and fly them into the UK.... But they are a good, cheaper alternative to the golden canaries that you speak of.Problem is they are quite a high cost and there are viable alternatives. Exotica is a good coal as are [I believe from reports here] coconara.Smiley had coconut fibre coals that people raved about for a while.But if you can afford canary coals.... Then go for it lol!JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelflage Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 QUOTE (Johnny_D @ Apr 7 2008, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>They always worked for me, But I have to order these from America and fly them into the UK.... But they are a good, cheaper alternative to the golden canaries that you speak of.Problem is they are quite a high cost and there are viable alternatives. Exotica is a good coal as are [I believe from reports here] coconara.Smiley had coconut fibre coals that people raved about for a while.But if you can afford canary coals.... Then go for it lol!JDyeah, im gonna have to jump on the coco nara bandwagon soon. ive been happy everytime i used them and just bought 4 boxes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathuv Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 well...um..ok thanks for the input welcome to the forum!QUOTE (Johnny_D @ Apr 7 2008, 07:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>They always worked for me, But I have to order these from America and fly them into the UK.... But they are a good, cheaper alternative to the golden canaries that you speak of.Problem is they are quite a high cost and there are viable alternatives. Exotica is a good coal as are [I believe from reports here] coconara.Smiley had coconut fibre coals that people raved about for a while.But if you can afford canary coals.... Then go for it lol!JDHey, why don't you try the TOM coals from shisha-world? The shipping is probably cheaper than from the USA and apparantley, according to our other european brothers, theyre the dog's bollocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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