Cleel Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 So, I looked up Hookah and what not, and many people use to say it was safe. I for one thought it was because I first got into it by my friend who had one. I liked it, but I didnt think there was any nicotine or tar for some reason. Dont ask my why. After researching, I found out that one Hookah session has as much bad chemicals and what not as a whole pack of ciggarettes. That kind of scares me, so I have been smoking HH Black Label, since the hookah lounge that we have only has HH. I like it, but it gives me a little headache. I want to smoke Tangiers and everything, but I dunno, it sounds like id be putting my lungs in a blender. What do you guys think about this research? I love smoking my hookah, but a whole pack of ciggarettes? thats crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 read thishttp://webfea-lb.fea.aub.edu.lb/aerosol/do...gilehpaper1.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimplexCoda Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 I know that there is still chemicals and stuff in hookah smoke, but not as much as what you have found. I found the same piece of research and it said they were using some ungodly temperature to burn the shisha. Im takin temperatures that would kill a human. So yes there are still harmful things in hookah, but i dont think its that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalSoil Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 well... i used to smoke about a pack a day... pack and a half some days.i have quit (cept when im at the bars) and i smoke hookah almost everyday.i believe this to be UNTRUE!maybe in a sense that the amount of tobacco is the same in a pack of cigarettes in comparison to one bowl of shisha but the mothod of smoking is different.maybe ill smoke a whole bowl and put a paper towel or some kind of filter thing to see what color it makes it...i dont think its safe to smoke hookah but my body does not crave it like i did cigarettes and my body does not hurt from it liek it did with cigarettes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleel Posted April 8, 2008 Author Share Posted April 8, 2008 Thanks for that link Canon, Im reading it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller79 Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 by no means have i done much research, but i have heard all side of this spectrum. Some people say its harmless, others say it will kill you instantly and there are reports of everything in between. What i have come to believe is that smoking shisha is of course not good for you, it is probably in fact bad for you for several reasons. Shisha does have nicotine and the amount depends on the brand, im pretty sure the tobacco itself has tar and several other chemicals in it and im sure whatever they use to mix it has more chemicals. That being said, i think saying its as bad as smoking an entire pack of smokes is extreme. I have had an entire bowl to myself, and i have smoked a whole pack in a day and believe me they were not the same. After the shisha i felt about the same as i did before i started. When used to smoke a lot of cigs in one sitting i would feel shitty and would get much more of a headrush.As for your lungs, the shisha probably is damaging them in some way - its the reality, you are still smoking and putting chemicals into your body. In my personal view its not as bad as smoking cigs, but its still smoking. Dont kid yourself about this because it is serious, be responsible and if you worry about your lungs take 2 weeks to a month off and see if you feel better/can exercise more etc. Or go ask your doctor. Any way you slice it im sure you are not going to find the answer you want, which is probably 'smoking shisha is completely ok for you' but as my grandfather used to say "everything in moderation and all you'll get is some hair on your chest, go overboard and you'll be in the ground"I wouldnt take that "as much as one whole pack of cigarettes" to heart, i have heard one cigar, one joint and one bowl of shisha all equal one entire pack of smokes and i cant imagine they acutally are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalSoil Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 canon can you summarize that? i was reading it and almost fell asleep.. plus i didnt know what half that shit was.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 its similar but lower then smoking cigs. i read it a few days ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaia.plateau Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 I think that until they do a study run by experienced hookah smokers, "the science is still out", to reluctantly quote GWB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleel Posted April 8, 2008 Author Share Posted April 8, 2008 Pretty much what i got out of it, was that a single hookah session produces as much nicotine as a single ciggarette, but it has almost double the tar. But since the Narghile is smoked with MUCH less heat as a ciggarette, the chemicals and tar and such is diluted and condensed from the water and the passage through the stem of a hookah. Boring, but a very good read for any hookah smoker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erufiku Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Well, my body is producing mucus. So, the hookah smoke is an irritant. On the other hand, I am nowhere near getting a smoker's cough or any of the other symptoms that come from smoking cigs. However you look at it, hookah is bad for you. So is eating too much chicken breasts (you may get very sick because of the hormones they use to grow the chicken), tuna (water that it swims in is full of mercury, causing you to accumulate unhealthy amounths of this heavy metal), spicy foods (stomach cancer), exercise (ever heard about exercise addictions?) or pretty much anything else done in excess No conclusive research has been done, and I don't think it will ever be done due to the nature of smoking hookah. By that I mean different set-ups, smoking habits (having a couple of bowls a week vs smoking from the phunnel for half of the day each day), and the difficulty of recreating the conditions that tobacco is cooked at when smoking normally. I mean, when you smoke by yourself and it gets harsh, you adjust heat management and so on. If you plug the hookah into the machine and the baccy starts burning, there is no way to tell, hence the skewed results.So, to address your question - it's not a healthy hobby Look at it this way: if you drink a few beers once in a while, it's all good. Even the occasional drunk night out will leave you with a major hangover but you body will cope with it in a day or so. Now, if you drink a bottle of hard liquor each day every day, that's a whole different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kornkitten42 Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 All I know is I went running the other day and it felt like lungs were going to explode. (well not running for fun, but had to run) and I think I need to cut out on hookahing as much and starting running again. That was a terrible feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 too buzzed off of my appletinis to read through everything but...Hookah isn't as bad as cigs.sure, smoking in general is bad for you, no matter what.Hookah has little nicotine and no added chemicals, also whatever is in sugar/mollasses/honey...the most harmful thing I could think of is the carcinogens from a charcoal....but nothing like cigs in the book of being harmful to your health IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPR234 Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 I'll be honest and say that I didn't read many of the replies, so if what I say is repeating what someone else already said, my bad.My take on the whole "equivalent to a pack of cigarettes" thing only applies to nicotine and carbon monoxide. Carbon monoxide is deadly if you breathe enough to pass out and keep breathin it while passed out, but I haven't done any research on harmful side effects of it in nonlethal doses. The nicotine also only applies to unwashed shisha (as far as i'm concerned), however, cigarettes have additives that irritate your lungs in a way which enables more nicotine/anything else in the smoke to be absorbed into your bloodstream. Shisha does not, and although there is more nicotine in it, youre exhaling a much higher percentage of it.Until I see a study that operates a number of hookahs set up in the same way and analyzes all that smoke, then has a number of people smoke hookahs set up in exactly the same way and analyzes all the smoke they exhale and compare the results to the raw shisha smoke with results proving its actually THAT much more detrimental to your health, I'm not convinced. (hows that for a run-on sentence?)That said, as i'm sure other people have said, smoking isnt good for you. If youre THAT concerned about it, just moderate yourself. People these days are too concerned about being health nuts, in my opinion. Theres nothing wrong with enjoying reasonably unhealthy things. If youre concerned about your fitness, maybe shisha just isn't for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushbr Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 QUOTE (r1v3th3ad @ Apr 8 2008, 06:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>too buzzed off of my appletinis to read through everything but... tee-hee appletinis...... i love scrubs lol sorry if that was a bit tooooo random Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesha Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Thanks for that link Canon... I used to worry about health factors and such...but I figure I'm gonna eventually die of something so I might as well enjoy myself while I'm here...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burton_o6 Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 QUOTE (r1v3th3ad @ Apr 8 2008, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>too buzzed off of my appletinis to read through everything but...haha..I'd like an appletini please, light on the tini. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voski Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Like 3 days ago I was flipping threw stations in my car and I stopped at this "What the fuck is the point of living to be 100 when no one is gonna want to touch your nasty old balls, I mean maybe some other nasty ass 100 year old bitch will but you don't want that. So fuck off I'm gonna go eat a cheeseburger because I don't see the point in being that old."Plus there is a theory that says. If you can live for another 25 years as of 2008. The average life expectancy will be increasing by more then one year every year. So in theory you can live as long as you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 QUOTE (burton_o6 @ Apr 8 2008, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (r1v3th3ad @ Apr 8 2008, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>too buzzed off of my appletinis to read through everything but...haha..I'd like an appletini please, light on the tini.just drank the last of the apple pucker and way toooo fucket off of it lolsry too late lolgot some everclear left though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burton_o6 Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 QUOTE (r1v3th3ad @ Apr 8 2008, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (burton_o6 @ Apr 8 2008, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (r1v3th3ad @ Apr 8 2008, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>too buzzed off of my appletinis to read through everything but...haha..I'd like an appletini please, light on the tini.just drank the last of the apple pucker and way toooo fucket off of it lolsry too late lolgot some everclear left thoughEverclear...ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASUSEAN1 Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 moderation my friend.. its all about the moderation. with that being said.. do whatevr the hell makes you happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrisbeeStud Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 QUOTE (voski @ Apr 8 2008, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Plus there is a theory that says. If you can live for another 25 years as of 2008. The average life expectancy will be increasing by more then one year every year. So in theory you can live as long as you want. that's the stupidest thing i've heard all day. sure the average age might be increasing, but you'll be able to credit that to medical advances. that doesn't meant hat people can live as long as they want. and btw...can you PLEASE show me some proof that you didn't boil this theory in your ass? i'm beggin you dude...i don't want to believe that you're that dumb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voski Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 I said theres a theory that says...As in I don't necessarily believe it and it isn't true since its a theory.My calculus professor told me some doctor did research and if the trend continues like it has TECHNICALLY your life expectancy would grow more per year then you get older per year. Obviously its credited to medical advances how else would it work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seefoodlover Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Theory is fact. Hypothesis is thought to be, or educated guess. Moderation is your friend. but only for some thingsI smoke hookah every one or two weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaia.plateau Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Theory != fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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